Well, the problem is that "graphics"is talked as a general thing without differentiating technical to artistic POV... Imo Code Vein looks great and I'd prefer it graphically to anything Sony western studios have ever done, but many would laugh at the mere mention lol. Also, seems like Horizon it's specially divisive in their art directionI see. So this thread should have ended with no further replies in 2006?
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This isn't directed at you specifically so don't take it personally, it's just a general rant:
I'm tired of hearing about the clouds. The game isn't played in the fucking clouds. There is exactly one quest that even dares to take you high into the clouds and that's the Aerial Capture where you have to chase down the Stormbird. I don't care how gorgeous the clouds look when there's no reason to ever be up there. Almost all of the game takes place on the ground, with a very small portion of it being underwater.
Amazing clouds doesn't change the fact that the DLC introduced new problems with texture and shadow pop-in, more frequent texture glitches, and some lighting oddities where 99% of the game is played. The game is very much a looker, but clouds don't really factor into it for me. Give me these clouds in something like Flight Simulator where the clouds are a core element of the game and I'd be more impressed.
I didn't beat Elden Ring but ironically Limgrave was the best looking area I saw in my 30 - 40 hours I only beat around 6 or 7 bosses and dropped it
I can see why someone would have that opinion with Elden Ring being more fantasy driven artistically but I'd take the environments in HFW/Burning Shores anyday with its lush moss, dense clouds, gorgeous oceans, molten lava lands
Horizon's NPC's are some of the best of all time, such is why when someone proclaims the game's superiority in the realm of graphics they pretty much exclusively focus on close up photo mode shots of character models. Lighting is predominantly what makes a game impressive looking though, and in that arena I find Horizon to be a bit flat looking. Also, as a personal aside, I just don't like the art style of the game at all; it simply isn't interesting looking to me. It's certainly visually impressive, but it's almost sterile in my opinion, there's no mood to it.Those NPC's tho compared to Horizon
Not taking it personally. When I mentioned the cloud, it's just one positive on a list of many positives but why do people want to focus on nitpick negatives. Why do people expect this game to be perfect in every way? Do you apply this same criticism to every game that you play. I just don't understand why people want to harp on the negatives and ask for perfection. I was just pointing out the great cloud tech that was added to the DLC because it wasn't in the main game. Also, find me the game that allows you to get up into the clouds and then allow you to traverse the seas with your mount/vehicle with this level of graphics.This isn't directed at you specifically so don't take it personally, it's just a general rant:
I'm tired of hearing about the clouds. The game isn't played in the fucking clouds. There is exactly one quest that even dares to take you high into the clouds and that's the Aerial Capture where you have to chase down the Stormbird. I don't care how gorgeous the clouds look when there's no reason to ever be up there. Almost all of the game takes place on the ground, with a very small portion of it being underwater.
Amazing clouds doesn't change the fact that the DLC introduced new problems with texture and shadow pop-in, more frequent texture glitches, and some lighting oddities where 99% of the game is played. The game is very much a looker, but clouds don't really factor into it for me. Give me these clouds in something like Flight Simulator where the clouds are a core element of the game and I'd be more impressed.
Bet you don't talk to your lotion that way.
You should see Leyndell. Absolutely gorgeous art direction.
I agree to be honest - the whole image and everything in it in ratchet is basically flawless - where as I feel with horizon some parts look crazy good but then there's some stuff thats and weirdly low quality mixed in that makes it feel kinda off comparatively
I also prefer Elden ring to almost any game visually. Technically it's like a gen behind - but I've never seen that level of art in a video game
The way I see it if I don't like overall visual design of the game then no amount tech gonna be make the game look good to me. This is why I much attracted to art direction game over tech behind graphics.
Oh I agree, I'm just saying I get it on a technical level. But games look generally so good nowadays anyway that it doesn't bother me if a company focuses on art over technical bells and whistles - which from does and it pays off. I was like jaw dropped half of playing that game due to the art
I hardly think the insane amount of texture and shadow pop in the DLC introduced is "nitpicking". It's bad. Egregiously so and on all three graphics settings. It wasn't an issue in the base game (nor did the base game have issues loading the stash or gear inventory), so it's entirely new to this DLC/upgrade patch. If it had been like this in the base game, it would have been (rightfully) called out for it.
I suppose where we diverge is in the point of form over function. Yeah, the clouds and the seas are beautiful. But what good is that beauty when it's functionally useless space? The map is too small to ever fly at max ceiling for any reason and there's only one sky based side mission. As I mentioned in the OT, there's no need or use for the Waterwing other than the single main story mission to get to
I qualified my opinion earlier in the thread. The models are better beyond the shadow of a doubt. The lighting, absolutely not in any way. The textures, in spots yes but not generally. The animations, yes. The art style? That's relative, but I find Horizon boring to look at. Not big on the type of locales featured in the game, but it's impressive work to be sure.Not really IMO
I mean Cyberpunk obviously has the superior tech but aside from the lighting system I don't think it's an easy victory over Horizon.
Horizon has some insane level of detail, even the random small animals are really detailed:
Not to mention overall better animations and the character models in general look like a gen ahead of Cyberpunk
Decima is indeed impressive...but until they show off more of what the engine can do it's not better, imo. Not when HFW clearly has better Sky and Underwater tech. Also their engine can render better NPC characters. Maybe Death Stranding 2 will prove me wrong...
You're surprised that an exclusive game (even if it's a Playstation one) is winning by little when it has a woman, a lesbian one at that as a main character?
I mean, decima was used for Killzone and Until Dawn as well.
It could, yes...like I said, Here's hoping Death Stranding 2 proves me wrong.
I think he met HFW not HZD.
It is significantly improved from the first game. In the first game you couldn't even swim underwater. Seriously everything dealing with the water and sky has been vastly improved from the original.
Also, the character models and animations for the NPCs are on a completely new level. Do yourself a favor and look up some comparison videos on YouTube (though not the true ideal way) to see the differences between both games
What game is that?It's impressive on a technical level, but it often looks ugly as shit artistically. It's the "throw everything and the kitchen sink" technique and it doesn't jive with me at all.
The whole game is the 2023 version of this:
Perfect Dark Zero.
