Fake
Gold Member
I don't quite remember, more like spend 'more than drinking with you' and he reply 'in love' or something.
Is hard to find this shit on youtube.
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Shuhei Yoshida says Horizon Forbidden West didn't sell as well as he expected
I don't quite remember, more like spend 'more than drinking with you' and he reply 'in love' or something.
Is hard to find this shit on youtube.
GymWolf
Member
I call him helmet so i don't have remember if it's herman or hermen or herbert or hermione.
99% sure it was not a love compliment but just comradery and trying to be decent.
I don't think she ever think at erend as a lovable companion at all even if he is thirst for her, him getting drunk when his sister dies is probably already too much of a strike for "apparently i'm the only chick with a working vagina in this world" princess aloy
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I saw my buddy falling asleep with the controller in his hand every time he played this game.
TBF though, he falls asleep to 90% of games not Helldivers 2.
TBF though, he falls asleep to 90% of games not Helldivers 2.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Nah, his thirst for her was cringe as fuck and she friend zones him immediately.
PatientGamer
Member
World class graphics
Stunning world
Great gameplay
Janky climbing (still)
Average story
Boring MC
They really need to sort out the last 3 items for the next game.
Stunning world
Great gameplay
Janky climbing (still)
Average story
Boring MC
They really need to sort out the last 3 items for the next game.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, they made Sobek a lesbian too and this girl from Eclipse or whatever that organization’s name is, is only doing all of this because she’s horny for her.
Normally, I wouldn’t have said it was deliberate, but with GG, you knew it was.
Fake
Gold Member
I do think was a love compliment. Really don't have the energy to reinstall HZD on my PS5 just to show this particular scene, but sure feels like.
I'm talking about Horizon Zero Dawn mind you. Its up to you the choice you made with the dialogues. I never played the Forbidden West, but quite sure is a friendzone simulator.
In case some of you forgot, you can even ignore your figure father in your first challenge dialogue. Either praise the mother she never got (LOL) or praising herself as usual.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I think it's time to bring back Killzone.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Not gonna lie. That gave me a semiAnyone of you saying bad things or not buying Horizon: FW is bigot.
Trouble was it was a full lob-on and then I realised it was Aloy
GymWolf
Member
I'm gonna do some research.
Rawbutt Jellybean
Member
Easy to get people to check out a new IP with robot dinosaurs. Much harder to keep them for a sequel if the game isn't very fun to play and the main character has zero charisma.
Fake
Gold Member
I'm doing right now, but Youtube only wants to show Forbidden West somehow.
mayham2199
Member
It has an 8 on metacritic and on Steam (very positive) from user reviews. Neogaf shits on everything if you haven't noticed. Anyone coming here for genuine opinions on products/games is going to get an opinion that does not line up with what the majority of gamers think. I like coming here to talk games but when I want to know how good a game is I do not come to this site for opinions.
It’s a great franchise but they screwed up the combat system with the 2nd one.
Aloy’s journey was also not as impactful as she traverses the biomes. They knew that they wanted us to cross them but we weren’t fully involved with to really make them memorable.
A number of plot elements, like Faro, were also poorly written. Whoever thought the buildup should be subverted by taking place off screen is insane.
Aloy’s journey was also not as impactful as she traverses the biomes. They knew that they wanted us to cross them but we weren’t fully involved with to really make them memorable.
A number of plot elements, like Faro, were also poorly written. Whoever thought the buildup should be subverted by taking place off screen is insane.
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namenotfound
Member
Zero Dawn I enjoyed but that had new car smell/mystery and I don't know if it's true but compared to Forbidden West it felt like a smaller map including the expansion map so it didn't feel like a chore to navigate. Forbidden West I checked out on PS+ Premium catalog, a lot of the mystery is gone, I don't care for Far Zenith at all. I did not enjoy navigating the map. Got through like half the base game and quit so didn't get to experience the expansion that people talk up more highly. I'll probably wait until it's a less than $20 game on Steam to give it another try
MayauMiao
Member
Its good, like 7/10 good not 9/10 good. The amazing visual kept me playing the game but once that wore off, its just average.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Don't think it matters to the point we're all making. I think we all agree that there was no explicit romance options in the first game. We all interpreted things differently because they weren't overt with it. The crux of the issue is that it's up to GG to write romance that makes sense, but they decided not to in the first game. In the case of Avad, they could have simply written her response and his dialogue better. Same for Erend or Varl. To be honest, it doesn't bother me in the slightest that there were no romance options. It doesn't exactly bother me that the sole romance is a woman because I don't care all that much about the game. I do find it very on-brand for a modern Sony studio.
HRK69
Member
He should visit a doctor
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clarky
Gold Member
I trust users on here with similar tastes rather than Journalists or Steam "reviews". Besides im in agreement its a bang average game at best. Guerrilla are technical wizards but are about as innovative and original as Ubisoft.
If you want an echo chamber of ass kissing you are in the wrong place.
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Sony expected sales better than the original. Not only because the original had already cultivated a huge audience, but also the PC release of the original was supposed to bring in more people to the PS ecosystem.
‘in line with HZD’ would be considered disappointing. Yoshida notes similar sentiments.
Hari Seldon
Member
Yeah the first game started out fun, but by the end it was a slog to get through and ended up being something I had to force myself to finish. Of course I wasn't going to bother with a sequel. Just stale old game design that needs deleted if they decide to make more in this franchise.
Roman Empire
Member
I regret buying it because I genuinely liked the first game. It doesn't help it was part of the PS+ Extra catalog not long after the release, which was already not a good sign.
VEZ1R
Neo Member
Setting has massive potantial but narrative and worldbuilding is incredibly anti-male. Every female character is ugly-unlikable girlbosses and every male character is incompetent simps. It's unauthentic and unrelatable.
Just remove all radical feminist elements from the game, make male characters charismatic and cool, make female characters likable and appealing and print money. EZ.
Just remove all radical feminist elements from the game, make male characters charismatic and cool, make female characters likable and appealing and print money. EZ.
mayham2199
Member
If you have similar taste great. I haven't found anything better than Steam reviews. They've been the most reliable and consistent for me. I get to see how long someone played a game and get more details about the game and why they did or didn't like it. Also don't have to worry about any of the users basing their reviews on console warring.
I never said I wanted that and specifically said I like coming here to talk about games. No one goes to Steam reviews for an echo chamber anyways that doesn't make sense.
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Edellus
Member
I've thoroughly enjoyed the 2 mainline games, but I mostly agree that the reason I enjoyed them was mostly due to the 3 first points you mentioned (I think the stories have been good, but the story telling could do with some improvement).
After HFW, I think they're on a good track to improve the "Boring MC" aspect.
Raised by an outcast and as an outcast, Aloy didn't wasn't given much of a chance to develop a particularly charming personality. In the second game she is forced to tag along with and care for people and she slowly but steadily begins to show more emotions (amusement, sadness and frustration I clearly remember). Her entire personality can't change that drastically in only 1 game, but I do think there was substantial growth that must keep on going in the next game.
viveks86
Member
Agreed
Agreed
Agreed
Don't you dare, mister. GoT combat loop on lethal difficulty is sublime. The issue with it is repetition and enemy variety. The kind of stuff that is almost always resolved in a sequel. Also the story was pretty run of the mill. GoY screams Kill Bill meets Red Dead. If this doesn't bring Sucker Punch to ND or SSM level, they will forever stay on second tier. I have hope.
You just threw this one in there didn't ya? I'm yet to see any real evidence that they made any changes to her model, outside of lighting and camera angles. This is what happens as face models get more realistic. Some angles and lighting would be unflattering. She looks gorgeous and if a sizeable number of men want to deny themselves such beauty over some anti-woke snowflakery, then that's on them.
Bernardougf
Member
Now talk about Last of Us 2....
ChorizoPicozo
Member
yep. i mean one must be blind AF to see that Sony first party is loosing its luster
Shifty1897
Member
The strong lesbian simulator market is oversaturated now.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Will that make more engaging games?
kiphalfton
Member
I think most open world games would make better linear games.
Most the time there's no point for the player to go back to previous areas. However the devs shoehorn in some crappy side quests or collectibles, to get you to do so.
Even stuff like God of War, which isn't open world, allows/forces backtracking. Again, it's because the devs shoehorn in some stupid collectibles to get you to return to the area.
I guess you could plod ahead, and play open world games like it's a linear games, just focusing on the main story. Problem is seems like as time goes on devs make it so you have to complete x number of side quests to unlock the next mainline quest. Whether or not that's the case, open world games seem to lack focus/cohesion and most the time it's a jumbled mess.
HRK69
Member
I think the whole "I fell asleep because it's boring" is just 100% bullshit and hyperbole
You didn't fall asleep because it's boring. You fell asleep because you were tired
A game (or movie) isn't automatically boring or bad because you fell asleep
clarky
Gold Member
Steam stuff get review bombed all the time. People freak out when they have to sign into a launcher. Obviously that happens everywhere but you get to know folks around these parts, warts n all.
Whatever work for you though of course.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
While true, you can become tired from monotonous tasks.
Brain gets bored, in an almost hypnotic state.
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HRK69
Member
For most people monotony alone won’t make them "suddenly" fall asleep unless they're already predisposed due to tiredness or a health condition
And therefore, the whole "this movie/game is boring, so I fell asleep" is mostly bullshit.
You were tired, that's all.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I just wonder how many units were sold without being bundled with a console.
And it was most likely put on PS+ so quickly because of the lower than expected sales.
And it was most likely put on PS+ so quickly because of the lower than expected sales.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That’s just bro getting old. I can fall asleep playing any game that isn’t multiplayer. Especially if I’ve been drinking.
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viveks86
Member
If that's 90% of games, it sounds like the brain has ADHD and needs the chaos of Helldivers (or multiplayer games) to stay engaged. Seriously, he needs a doctor!
Or it's just the wrong hobby for him
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ammogeddon
Member
Wait till he sees how well the next entry into the franchise does.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
AmuroChan
Member
We knew that already from the Insom leaks. Sony put Horizon FW on PS+ after one year and lost $85m in projected revenue as a result of that.
gamingbolt.com
Horizon Forbidden West Sales “Flatlined” After Joining PS Plus, Leading to Projected $85 Million Loss in Retail Revenue
If the game hadn't joined PS Plus in its second year, Sony was projecting $124 in retail revenue, according to leaked internal documents.
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