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It's already late October and Nintendo still hasn't given any hints about the reveal of the Switch's successor.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And impact Holiday sales?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
There's no more iwata too. For better or worse that guy was the center of Nintendos innovation for 15 years and now that he's gone they're likely not gonna bother to come up with some brand new wacky console like Wii or DS
Since they don't really need new hardware because there's no new ideas, and power is irrelevant because it's Nintendo, why not coast off of the one already successful platform? It's becoming increasingly expensive to start up another ecosystem for the 7th time, and it's not like there's much demand for a new Nintendo system besides the hardcore like us.
The fact they've even confirmed they're working on a new system is just odd for me when the money printer is still going so strong
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
Well, it's finally late October now. That's something.
Iwata didn't come up with Wii or DS.
Oberstein
Member
Davevil
Late October Surprise
Robb
Gold Member
Yeah, and even if they don’t want to say much themselves in their briefing I assume that there’ll at the very least be questions about it during the Q&A.
I just want it out as soon as possible. I don’t think the wait will be any less either way. From the point they put out the reveal trailer we’re likely 5-6 months away from launch.
dacuk
Member
Nah, they are not even able to sell it worldwide...
Woopah
Member
The main reason is growth.
As profitable as Switch is, Nintendo is a business and it cannot be there plan to just watch revenue and profit continue to fall.
They need something to turn things around, and that something is the Switch 2.
Additionally, power is relevant to Nintendo because more power means more third party support, which means higher revenue.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
But, why would Nintendo do that? They want to sell people Switch games this holiday. That’s their focus. Zelda. M&L. Mario Party. NSO memberships. Accessories. Switch 2 is a product for next year. And they have no need at all for a long gap between reveal and release.
digdug2
Member
As long as they clearly communicate that all Switch games will work on Switch 2, holiday sales shouldn't be a problem. I have a feeling that the current Joy Cons will probably work with the S2 also... there are so many of them out there now, that it would be a waste otherwise.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
But it would limit Switch sales this holiday. Because people might not drop $350 this year for a Switch OLED if they find out Switch 2 is coming in 6 months.
As for Joy cons being forward compatible, yeah I really doubt it. I’m sure the Joy cons will be new and different enough, especially if all the reporting is true that they are magnetically attached on Switch 2, and don’t use rails. The old ones wouldn’t work at all.
There has to be some clear differences in order to justify being a successor. It can’t just be that graphics are way better but everything else is exactly the same. I would be shocked if Joy cons from Switch worked at all on Switch 2.
Being able to carry over literally everything you owned from Wii to the Wii U, controllers and accessories included, didn’t help the Wii U in the slightest.
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Deerock71
Member
When Switch 2 comes out, that beautiful tech and my Steam Deck OLED will be the binary stars of my gaming galaxy.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I know what you mean, but you’re not being literal. You’re just talking about specs. We all know the difference between Valve hardware and Nintendo hardware.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
Wtf Nintendo just Wtf... It's almost November. They are going to announce it next year
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Good. The gap between reveal and release should be like literally no more than 90 days. It doesn’t need to be any longer than that.
Robb
Gold Member
Assuming it’s b/c I don’t think software sales would be an issue. Hardware sales is the main gripe, imo. I think that 13.5M will be difficult to reach - even without Switch 2 in the mix.
Regarding the gap I’m assuming they’d want it for marketing. I mean, why did they have that gap with Switch? 3DS? Why did Sony have it with Ps5?
3 months or less sound like it might work for an established product, like a Pro model or something. A new platform launch is a much bigger and riskier endeavor. But hey, I’m no marketing expert so this is just guesswork based on how they, and others, have done things previously.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
boring of waiting buuuuut sales will explode just dont make weak crud with no dlss
ShadyAcshuns
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Jeff Spicoli
Member
I am afraid they will speak about It in January.
I have a feeling wee still habe a way to go before launch probably October next year for the holidays .
They still have donkey long next year i doubt they will release it before that makes them some cash plus this game they're testing may extend them and give more funds if it has.plenty of add ons you can purchase.
Personally i rarely play my switch im
Sp ready for the new machine so fingers crossed we still get details before new year for a earlier launch maybe before easter.
They still have donkey long next year i doubt they will release it before that makes them some cash plus this game they're testing may extend them and give more funds if it has.plenty of add ons you can purchase.
Personally i rarely play my switch im
Sp ready for the new machine so fingers crossed we still get details before new year for a earlier launch maybe before easter.
dragonyeuw
Member
My guess is they want to squeeze one more holiday season out of the current system, announcing its successor( even though anyone remotely tuned in knows its on the horizon) would undermine their efforts to do so.
I'm surprised they didn't bother creating an OLED variant of the lite, I would buy one for shits and giggles even with Switch 2 pending. But I imagine they could push past 150 million sales going into 2025 and then the PS2/DS is right in their bullseye.
I'm surprised they didn't bother creating an OLED variant of the lite, I would buy one for shits and giggles even with Switch 2 pending. But I imagine they could push past 150 million sales going into 2025 and then the PS2/DS is right in their bullseye.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
Next week the World will burn if Switch 2 isn’t announced.
Frankly if you asked everyone back in January, 99.9% of people would have told you Switch 2 would at the very least be announced at some point in 2024, if not released.
The meltdown will be epic if it isn’t announced.
I also think the first set of doubt will creep in consumers minds, even the Nintendo zealots. That maybe all is not right with Nintendo.
As I have posted many times, something still feels off to me, and until Nintendo tells me otherwise, I suspect Switch 2 is not fully BC with Switch 1.
I hope it is. I think it is one of the most important features for next gen. But we will see, whenever it is announced.
Frankly if you asked everyone back in January, 99.9% of people would have told you Switch 2 would at the very least be announced at some point in 2024, if not released.
The meltdown will be epic if it isn’t announced.
I also think the first set of doubt will creep in consumers minds, even the Nintendo zealots. That maybe all is not right with Nintendo.
As I have posted many times, something still feels off to me, and until Nintendo tells me otherwise, I suspect Switch 2 is not fully BC with Switch 1.
I hope it is. I think it is one of the most important features for next gen. But we will see, whenever it is announced.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
As time has gone on, particularly since 2016, the gap between unveiling a new console and releasing it has grown considerably shorter.
Wii U was first unveiled at E3 2011, and released holiday 2012. Back in those days, that was the norm.
But as the years have gone by, platform holders have realized that there’s no benefit to anyone of having a huge 12-18 month gap like that. If you can throw all that information out there 3-4 months before release, and sales are just as good as they ever were, or better, there’s no benefit to having such a long lead time. It could only hurt to impact previous generation sales, because some new buyers would hold off on a current-gen system once they have a firm date in the near future for the next-gen.
What Nintendo did for the Switch launch is probably the closest model to follow, but with an even shorter gap this time is where this is likely to go.
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Robb
Gold Member
I’m thinking that timeframe is way too short with zero time to react/pivot depending on what consumers think about the reveal.
But we’ll know soon enough, the time frame has definitely been getting shorter over the years.
Davevil
Late October Surprise
in your reasoning you left out investors, who I think want to be reassured about the future of their investments
existensmaximum
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How do you know someone owns a Steam Deck?
- Don't worry, they'll tell you.
Shifty1897
Member
We all clowned on OP but now he's right and we're the clowns.
Unrelated: Idk who this is but there's a lot I would do for the clussy.
Robb
Gold Member
New 3D Mario, Xenoblade/Monolith Soft game, Mario Kart, next-gen Metroid Prime 4 version, new OS, new OS features etc. etc.
The usual stuff.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Nintendo doesn’t run their company based on the stock price, though. They’ve always been pretty clear about that. And they’ve already publicly confirmed a Switch successor is coming, so investors are already aware. Long-time Nintendo investors know the business is very cyclical and there will always be ups & downs. Nintendo’s made them a huge amount of money over the years.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
This.
New Yoshi, new Kirby, new Smash. Lots of upgraded 60fps Switch ports as well, I am sure. Another platform added to NSO+Expansion, etc.
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WhiteWaterM00se
Member
I am curious. What is more important TO YOU for Switch 2?
Full Backwards Compatibility or easier porting for AAA for 3rd party titles for next gen?
I am expecting games like Sea of Thieves, Madden, COD, Baulders Gate 3, Cyberpunk, Assassins Creed, Resdient Evil, etc.
I hope we don’t have to choose, but if we did. What would you choose?
Full Backwards Compatibility or easier porting for AAA for 3rd party titles for next gen?
I am expecting games like Sea of Thieves, Madden, COD, Baulders Gate 3, Cyberpunk, Assassins Creed, Resdient Evil, etc.
I hope we don’t have to choose, but if we did. What would you choose?
Robb
Gold Member
Full b/c without hesitation. If I want to play a 3rd party game I’ll play it on PlayStation.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
I have been under the impression that going forward according to analyst that many people will no longer be a multi console owner. Possibly PC and a console or strictly one or the other.
With the high price of goods and services. People will have to choose what is important to them.
I also believe this is true, At least in America. I do believe next gen systems are $450 or more, including Switch 2. I believe Switch 2 is priced between $450-$499.
Player Respawn
Neo Member
My guess is Switch 2 trailer will drop same day as GTAVI trailer 2… Nintendo just has to wait for that glorious day to come lol
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
More and more these days are reminding of the last days of the wii...
Robb
Gold Member
Sure, makes sense. Everything is more expensive these days.
But as long as Nintendo keeps going the underpowered route it’ll be a first party games machine for me.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
Switch has a bigger install base than any current console in the world, over the last 30 days Mario Party has higher sales than any ps5 or Xbox game.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Come back to me when its the 28th.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
It’s all really important, honestly. People expect really strong forward compatibility of their favorite games. Especially the GaaS ones. But really all of them. I just don’t see how Nintendo could get away with not doing it at least as well as Sony did with PS5.
And make no mistake, Nintendo wants all the games on their platform. All of them. That they don’t always get all of them is not their choice, other than simply horsepower limits.
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Davevil
Late October Surprise
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
I agree, GAAS, especially Fortnite right (that is what we are really talking about). Fortnite should allow you to just log into your account. I know there are other great GAAS titles. But, nothing earns more or gathers more eyeballs than Fortnite.
So, for 3rd parties and 1st party titles, I DO EXPECT some FULL PRICE “Deluxe” versions. With additional content, better graphics, frame rate, and all DLC included.
Witcher 3, Skyrim , Doom, No Man Sky, Mario Rabbids collection, etc, all seem like 100% sure thing. First Party titles like BOTW (as mentioned before at GDC), and games like Xenoblade 2-3, Astral Chain, Bayonetta 2-3, all seem like sure things to get enhanced versions that run better. I even half expect a Mario Kart 8 Ultimate in addition to whatever MK9 is. Especially if MK9 is first person point of view.
Anyway, my long ramble…i am just saying, i do not view Switch 2 as a 100% lock. I actually think something like what ps5 did with the 100 most popular games to be BC, type of scenario.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
What is the significance of 10/28/24?
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
A 60fps upgraded port of BotW for $60-70 seems like a tough sell to me. Maybe they’ll do an upgrade fee path like what PS offers for PS5 versions of PS4 games. But in this day and age I can’t imagine many people spending full price for a 8 year old game everyone already owns.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
It's already early December and still no news...
Gaelyon
Member
Yeah so basically nearly 2025, which means we're entering the second half of the first half of 21th century and still no news !
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