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[Robb]

Next Nintendo console is just called “Nintendo” confirmed by Yooka-Re-Playlee

Very cheeky with the eyes.. is this how we’re going to get games revealed for the next few months?

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

It's already early December and still no news...

Yeah so basically nearly 2025, which means we're entering the second half of the first half of 21th century and still no news !

Yeah there being no confirmation of the Switch successor’s successor yet obviously means Nintendo is abandoning consoles and going third-party.

Our worst fears have been realized!

 

[dragonyeuw]

As I have posted many times, something still feels off to me, and until Nintendo tells me otherwise, I suspect Switch 2 is not fully BC with Switch 1.

Personally I don't think there's much worry of that. You want to talk about setting the world afire lol... that's the absolute worst thing they could do since they're on record as saying they want their userbase to transition smoothly to the successor. They had valid reasons to cut off the Wii U but not the Switch.

My 'concern', if you will, is Nintendo has become more and more aware of the growing competition with 'me too' devices like Steam Deck, Asus Ally etc etc. No, those systems aren't 1:1 competitors but I wonder if they think just a 'more powerful Switch' holds the same level of buzz it did a few years ago. Obviously the only place you can (legally) play the next Mario and Zelda will be Switch 2, but if someone just wanted a Switch- like form factor device but without any staunch affinity for their IP, a $400 Steam Deck is an extremely compelling alternative. Frankly if I didn't want the next Mario/Zelda/Metroid I probably wouldn't bother with Switch 2. Alot of the smaller AA/Indie titles that were 'perfect for Switch' I started buying on Steam the past 2+ years( which to be fair, I'd rather my digital purchases on an open platform than any of the consoles).

Speaking for myself, since getting on the Steam Deck/Legion Go express I'm less enthused about Switch 2 if it's a mere spec bump. I wonder if part of the delay is they're coming up with something to further distinguish it from the pack. I'm probably well off on that theory but just thoughts pulled from my ass. I do recall something about giving developers time to prep software, so maybe it's just as simple as them wanting to come out with the mother of all launches.

It also could be that even with declining sales, they haven't quite cratered and fall within their internal metrics at this stage in its cycle. This isn't a Wii U situation where they couldn't drop it fast enough and needed a supplemental product( the NES classic) to go alongside 3DS Xmas 2016. One final point, the fact that the Switch still moves units nearly 8 years into its life at full MSRP is nuts. They're clearly (and logically) milking it until the cow is dry.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

What is the significance of 10/28/24?

Late October basically. Nothing else.

 

[Trilobit]

It's already early December and still no news...

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Personally I don't think there's much worry of that. You want to talk about setting the world afire lol... that's the absolute worst thing they could do since they're on record as saying they want their userbase to transition smoothly to the successor. They had valid reasons to cut off the Wii U but not the Switch.

My 'concern', if you will, is Nintendo has become more and more aware of the growing competition with 'me too' devices like Steam Deck, Asus Ally etc etc. No, those systems aren't 1:1 competitors but I wonder if they think just a 'more powerful Switch' holds the same level of buzz it did a few years ago. Obviously the only place you can (legally) play the next Mario and Zelda will be Switch 2, but if someone just wanted a Switch- like form factor device but without any staunch affinity for their IP, a $400 Steam Deck is an extremely compelling alternative. Frankly if I didn't want the next Mario/Zelda/Metroid I probably wouldn't bother with Switch 2. Alot of the smaller AA/Indie titles that were 'perfect for Switch' I started buying on Steam the past 2+ years( which to be fair, I'd rather my digital purchases on an open platform than any of the consoles).

Speaking for myself, since getting on the Steam Deck/Legion Go express I'm less enthused about Switch 2 if it's a mere spec bump. I wonder if part of the delay is they're coming up with something to further distinguish it from the pack. I'm probably well off on that theory but just thoughts pulled from my ass. I do recall something about giving developers time to prep software, so maybe it's just as simple as them wanting to come out with the mother of all launches.

It also could be that even with declining sales, they haven't quite cratered and fall within their internal metrics at this stage in its cycle. This isn't a Wii U situation where they couldn't drop it fast enough and needed a supplemental product( the NES classic) to go alongside 3DS Xmas 2016. One final point, the fact that the Switch still moves units nearly 8 years into its life at full MSRP is nuts. They're clearly (and logically) milking it until the cow is dry.

I agree with you on BC and it makes sense to do it. Back in 2022, I had dinner with a developer of a major company. My family memeber’s next door neighbor.

The developer did not reveal nor in my opinion, had any knowledge of Switch 2. He just explained to me why in his estimation the next gen of Sony, Xbox, and Nintendo would all be on ARM. And the architecture in the ARM would make it difficult for Switch 1 games to be BC “out of the box” for Switch 2. This dev thought it was unlikely everything would be BC.

He explained he thought that all 3 companies would strategically align to make it easier for 3rd parties and 1st, 2nd party titles to cross over to other platforms by having similar architecture. This dev was in the belief that due to cost and dwindling profits, that some 1st and 2nd party titles would need to cross over to other platforms. He used Bayonetta trilogy as an example. To really maximize profits for Bayonetta it needs to not be only on Nintendo platform. Because budget costs for next gen, it is not feasible to keep a title like this on one platform. Other games were mentioned as well. Back then, like for example he said Sea of Thieves was “no brainer” if MS wanted to put games on other platforms. He viewed SoT more like Minecraft in the sense, that it has the potential to be a platform and not stuck on Xbox.

I remember the basics of our conversation. He was convinced that Nintendo would want to be able to offer “Deluxe” or “R” meaning “ReImagined”; or “Redux” of many titles. This makes sense to me for Nintendo, as it would allow them to fill out the release calendar since new AAA 1st party titles will likely take at LEAST 4 years from each team.

Which, I personally think drives a larger profit for Nintendo as opposed to offering $20 upgrades for performance on Switch 2 for existing Switch 1 titles. In my opinion, I doubt Nintendo has much interest in doing that for older titles.

So, due to this conversation, and my personal belief that each company will want to maximize profits. Nintendo will not opt for “Ultimate BC”, it will be something else. Maybe like PS5 had.

I am not really hoping for a new Gimmick as you are. I think the gimmick should be in the software. I would like to see new mobile games that align and connect to their Switch 2 franchise titles. However that works. Maybe playing Mario Kart Tour earns you skins for Mario Kart 9. nothing that impacts gameplay, or outcomes. Just incentive to play the mobile game and own both.

The last thing he mentioned to me was as ARM moves into Cell Phones he said the gaming companies were all aware of the need to be able to bring some of those games across all platforms with great ease. Obviously mobile it still the “blue ocean” of gaming. Apple is king here, and IF they decide to incorporate the “M” chips into iPhone’s. Then it could get very interesting very quickly.

As with the recent 4chan rumor that Sony and Apple have come to some form of partnership about PS titles coming to Apple.

 

[dacuk]

Personally I don't think there's much worry of that. You want to talk about setting the world afire lol... that's the absolute worst thing they could do since they're on record as saying they want their userbase to transition smoothly to the successor. They had valid reasons to cut off the Wii U but not the Switch.

My 'concern', if you will, is Nintendo has become more and more aware of the growing competition with 'me too' devices like Steam Deck, Asus Ally etc etc. No, those systems aren't 1:1 competitors but I wonder if they think just a 'more powerful Switch' holds the same level of buzz it did a few years ago. Obviously the only place you can (legally) play the next Mario and Zelda will be Switch 2, but if someone just wanted a Switch- like form factor device but without any staunch affinity for their IP, a $400 Steam Deck is an extremely compelling alternative. Frankly if I didn't want the next Mario/Zelda/Metroid I probably wouldn't bother with Switch 2. Alot of the smaller AA/Indie titles that were 'perfect for Switch' I started buying on Steam the past 2+ years( which to be fair, I'd rather my digital purchases on an open platform than any of the consoles).

Speaking for myself, since getting on the Steam Deck/Legion Go express I'm less enthused about Switch 2 if it's a mere spec bump. I wonder if part of the delay is they're coming up with something to further distinguish it from the pack. I'm probably well off on that theory but just thoughts pulled from my ass. I do recall something about giving developers time to prep software, so maybe it's just as simple as them wanting to come out with the mother of all launches.

It also could be that even with declining sales, they haven't quite cratered and fall within their internal metrics at this stage in its cycle. This isn't a Wii U situation where they couldn't drop it fast enough and needed a supplemental product( the NES classic) to go alongside 3DS Xmas 2016. One final point, the fact that the Switch still moves units nearly 8 years into its life at full MSRP is nuts. They're clearly (and logically) milking it until the cow is dry.

As I said before, those devices are not widely available worldwide, so they are not really competition to the Switch.
I live at a 4 hours distance (in a plane, obviously) from the USA, and Valve is not able / does not want to sell me a damn Deck.

I can easily get any model of the Switch, in at least +30 tech, appliance shops and supermarket chains in my little country.

 

[dragonyeuw]

I agree with you on BC and it makes sense to do it. Back in 2022, I had dinner with a developer of a major company. My family memeber’s next door neighbor.

The developer did not reveal nor in my opinion, had any knowledge of Switch 2. He just explained to me why in his estimation the next gen of Sony, Xbox, and Nintendo would all be on ARM. And the architecture in the ARM would make it difficult for Switch 1 games to be BC “out of the box” for Switch 2. This dev thought it was unlikely everything would be BC.

He explained he thought that all 3 companies would strategically align to make it easier for 3rd parties and 1st, 2nd party titles to cross over to other platforms by having similar architecture. This dev was in the belief that due to cost and dwindling profits, that some 1st and 2nd party titles would need to cross over to other platforms. He used Bayonetta trilogy as an example. To really maximize profits for Bayonetta it needs to not be only on Nintendo platform. Because budget costs for next gen, it is not feasible to keep a title like this on one platform. Other games were mentioned as well. Back then, like for example he said Sea of Thieves was “no brainer” if MS wanted to put games on other platforms. He viewed SoT more like Minecraft in the sense, that it has the potential to be a platform and not stuck on Xbox.

I remember the basics of our conversation. He was convinced that Nintendo would want to be able to offer “Deluxe” or “R” meaning “ReImagined”; or “Redux” of many titles. This makes sense to me for Nintendo, as it would allow them to fill out the release calendar since new AAA 1st party titles will likely take at LEAST 4 years from each team.

Which, I personally think drives a larger profit for Nintendo as opposed to offering $20 upgrades for performance on Switch 2 for existing Switch 1 titles. In my opinion, I doubt Nintendo has much interest in doing that for older titles.

So, due to this conversation, and my personal belief that each company will want to maximize profits. Nintendo will not opt for “Ultimate BC”, it will be something else. Maybe like PS5 had.

I am not really hoping for a new Gimmick as you are. I think the gimmick should be in the software. I would like to see new mobile games that align and connect to their Switch 2 franchise titles. However that works. Maybe playing Mario Kart Tour earns you skins for Mario Kart 9. nothing that impacts gameplay, or outcomes. Just incentive to play the mobile game and own both.

The last thing he mentioned to me was as ARM moves into Cell Phones he said the gaming companies were all aware of the need to be able to bring some of those games across all platforms with great ease. Obviously mobile it still the “blue ocean” of gaming. Apple is king here, and IF they decide to incorporate the “M” chips into iPhone’s. Then it could get very interesting very quickly.

As with the recent 4chan rumor that Sony and Apple have come to some form of partnership about PS titles coming to Apple.

Fascinating information, appreciate the insight.

For clarity, I'm not clamoring for a 'gimmick' per se. I was saying that I wonder if Nintendo themselves have felt the need to do something beyond the sales pitch of 'more power', as the Switch in and of itself is no longer an 'aha!' unique concept but again, that is just an opinion from my ass and based on nothing.

My own personal interest has wavered high and low in recent months, right now it's the latter. I think I've become so exhausted on rumors and 'when is it being announced??!' dialogue that I've largely become apathetic to it. Its kind of 'eh whenever it releases' at this point. That's coupled with, as I mentioned, buying into the PC handhelds. Those devices have entrenched themselves as my main gaming platforms, even over the other current consoles, and I don't see Switch 2 shifting that to any large degree but I stand to be pleasantly surprised. Something like a ground up remake of Ocarina of Time could render everything I just said null and void, but it would probably take that level of announcement to get me onboard day one. Otherwise I can probably not fall victim to FOMO and give the system a year to build up its library, but we'll see. These are just current ramblings and subject to change without notice.

Alot of that re: increases in cross-platform across the board makes perfect sense, because the economics of modern gaming are slowly knocking down the walls of software exclusivity and clearly companies have to pivot. Now that doesn't mean Mario and Zelda will be coming to PC next week but their infamous over-protection of certain IP under their umbrella may need a bit of flexibility. Something like Bayonetta is definitely too niche to remain exclusive if the hope is to expand its appeal. In general and for the foreseeable future, Nintendo is clearly positioned as the company least likely to have their major IPs dragged kicking and screaming off their own platform.

 

[dragonyeuw]

As I said before, those devices are not widely available worldwide, so they are not really competition to the Switch.
I live at a 4 hours distance (in a plane, obviously) from the USA, and Valve is not able / does not want to sell me a damn Deck.

Of course, I'm well aware of the differences in availability. But there is nothing to say the Steam Deck, including how Valve handles its distribution, wasn't a proof of concept test case and the successor isn't positioned for wider retail. Of course, there is nothing to say that is the case either, but IMO fun to speculate ( for me anyway). Same as if Valve re-introduced the Steam machine ( internally produced, not farmed out to third parties) with wide retail distribution and positioned against PS6 in 4 years. I feel like the market needs a shake-up and Valve has created a ton of goodwill and momentum around their brand. To what degree either scenario is possible or what affect on the market I don't know, but again I find the possibilities fascinating.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Fascinating information, appreciate the insight.

For clarity, I'm not clamoring for a 'gimmick' per se. I was saying that I wonder if Nintendo themselves have felt the need to do something beyond the sales pitch of 'more power', as the Switch in and of itself is no longer an 'aha!' unique concept but again, that is just an opinion from my ass and based on nothing.

My own personal interest has wavered high and low in recent months, right now it's the latter. I think I've become so exhausted on rumors and 'when is it being announced??!' dialogue that I've largely become apathetic to it. Its kind of 'eh whenever it releases' at this point. That's coupled with, as I mentioned, buying into the PC handhelds. Those devices have entrenched themselves as my main gaming platforms, even over the other current consoles, and I don't see Switch 2 shifting that to any large degree but I stand to be pleasantly surprised. Something like a ground up remake of Ocarina of Time could render everything I just said null and void, but it would probably take that level of announcement to get me onboard day one. Otherwise I can probably not fall victim to FOMO and give the system a year to build up its library, but we'll see. These are just current ramblings and subject to change without notice.

Alot of that re: increases in cross-platform across the board makes perfect sense, because the economics of modern gaming are slowly knocking down the walls of software exclusivity and clearly companies have to pivot. Now that doesn't mean Mario and Zelda will be coming to PC next week but their infamous over-protection of certain IP under their umbrella may need a bit of flexibility. Something like Bayonetta is definitely too niche to remain exclusive if the hope is to expand its appeal. In general and for the foreseeable future, Nintendo is clearly positioned as the company least likely to have their major IPs dragged kicking and screaming off their own platform.

I should have specified something. Switch 1 is ARM processor as well. It was explained to me though, that not all ARMS processors are exactly alike, and don’t assume you can move from one system to another automatically. SOC’s can be very different and all be classified as ARM.

 

[dragonyeuw]

I should have specified something. Switch 1 is ARM processor as well. It was explained to me though, that not all ARMS processors are exactly alike, and don’t assume you can move from one system to another automatically. SOC’s can be very different and all be classified as ARM.

So is this fueling your original theory about BC, that the delay is in part due to Nintendo figuring out a 'best case' solution under these technical conditions?

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Fascinating information, appreciate the insight.

For clarity, I'm not clamoring for a 'gimmick' per se. I was saying that I wonder if Nintendo themselves have felt the need to do something beyond the sales pitch of 'more power', as the Switch in and of itself is no longer an 'aha!' unique concept but again, that is just an opinion from my ass and based on nothing.

My own personal interest has wavered high and low in recent months, right now it's the latter. I think I've become so exhausted on rumors and 'when is it being announced??!' dialogue that I've largely become apathetic to it. Its kind of 'eh whenever it releases' at this point. That's coupled with, as I mentioned, buying into the PC handhelds. Those devices have entrenched themselves as my main gaming platforms, even over the other current consoles, and I don't see Switch 2 shifting that to any large degree but I stand to be pleasantly surprised. Something like a ground up remake of Ocarina of Time could render everything I just said null and void, but it would probably take that level of announcement to get me onboard day one. Otherwise I can probably not fall victim to FOMO and give the system a year to build up its library, but we'll see. These are just current ramblings and subject to change without notice.

Alot of that re: increases in cross-platform across the board makes perfect sense, because the economics of modern gaming are slowly knocking down the walls of software exclusivity and clearly companies have to pivot. Now that doesn't mean Mario and Zelda will be coming to PC next week but their infamous over-protection of certain IP under their umbrella may need a bit of flexibility. Something like Bayonetta is definitely too niche to remain exclusive if the hope is to expand its appeal. In general and for the foreseeable future, Nintendo is clearly positioned as the company least likely to have their major IPs dragged kicking and screaming off their own platform.

Coupe of quick thoughts.

1.) I am sure there is some small gimmick. I used to think it was AR. Especially since, Mario Kart Live. BUT, the company that made that game was acquired by Apple several years back to Nintendo’s surprise, if i am not mistaken. So now, i believe it is likely software related. Whatever it may be. I actually think Miiverse would be awesome. But, i doubt they want to moderate that in 2025, with the state of the world.

2.) I also believe Nintendo has damaged their public’s interest in Switch 2, since they have not showed it yet. Make no mistake though, Switch 2 has the potential to be the biggest console launch since PS2! Which is wild to think about.

3.) You mentioned Zelda OoT remake. I also think this is a near certainty for next gen. Even though it may be the only new 3d Zelda you get. I think a BotW Deluxe is coming, as well as Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. I think this would be a smart revenue stream for Nintendo to use. Remaking/reimaging older games for today’s audience.

 

[Woopah]

I agree with you on BC and it makes sense to do it. Back in 2022, I had dinner with a developer of a major company. My family memeber’s next door neighbor.

The developer did not reveal nor in my opinion, had any knowledge of Switch 2. He just explained to me why in his estimation the next gen of Sony, Xbox, and Nintendo would all be on ARM. And the architecture in the ARM would make it difficult for Switch 1 games to be BC “out of the box” for Switch 2. This dev thought it was unlikely everything would be BC.

He explained he thought that all 3 companies would strategically align to make it easier for 3rd parties and 1st, 2nd party titles to cross over to other platforms by having similar architecture. This dev was in the belief that due to cost and dwindling profits, that some 1st and 2nd party titles would need to cross over to other platforms. He used Bayonetta trilogy as an example. To really maximize profits for Bayonetta it needs to not be only on Nintendo platform. Because budget costs for next gen, it is not feasible to keep a title like this on one platform. Other games were mentioned as well. Back then, like for example he said Sea of Thieves was “no brainer” if MS wanted to put games on other platforms. He viewed SoT more like Minecraft in the sense, that it has the potential to be a platform and not stuck on Xbox.

I remember the basics of our conversation. He was convinced that Nintendo would want to be able to offer “Deluxe” or “R” meaning “ReImagined”; or “Redux” of many titles. This makes sense to me for Nintendo, as it would allow them to fill out the release calendar since new AAA 1st party titles will likely take at LEAST 4 years from each team.

Which, I personally think drives a larger profit for Nintendo as opposed to offering $20 upgrades for performance on Switch 2 for existing Switch 1 titles. In my opinion, I doubt Nintendo has much interest in doing that for older titles.

So, due to this conversation, and my personal belief that each company will want to maximize profits. Nintendo will not opt for “Ultimate BC”, it will be something else. Maybe like PS5 had.

I am not really hoping for a new Gimmick as you are. I think the gimmick should be in the software. I would like to see new mobile games that align and connect to their Switch 2 franchise titles. However that works. Maybe playing Mario Kart Tour earns you skins for Mario Kart 9. nothing that impacts gameplay, or outcomes. Just incentive to play the mobile game and own both.

The last thing he mentioned to me was as ARM moves into Cell Phones he said the gaming companies were all aware of the need to be able to bring some of those games across all platforms with great ease. Obviously mobile it still the “blue ocean” of gaming. Apple is king here, and IF they decide to incorporate the “M” chips into iPhone’s. Then it could get very interesting very quickly.

As with the recent 4chan rumor that Sony and Apple have come to some form of partnership about PS titles coming to Apple.

Fascinating information, appreciate the insight.

For clarity, I'm not clamoring for a 'gimmick' per se. I was saying that I wonder if Nintendo themselves have felt the need to do something beyond the sales pitch of 'more power', as the Switch in and of itself is no longer an 'aha!' unique concept but again, that is just an opinion from my ass and based on nothing.

My own personal interest has wavered high and low in recent months, right now it's the latter. I think I've become so exhausted on rumors and 'when is it being announced??!' dialogue that I've largely become apathetic to it. Its kind of 'eh whenever it releases' at this point. That's coupled with, as I mentioned, buying into the PC handhelds. Those devices have entrenched themselves as my main gaming platforms, even over the other current consoles, and I don't see Switch 2 shifting that to any large degree but I stand to be pleasantly surprised. Something like a ground up remake of Ocarina of Time could render everything I just said null and void, but it would probably take that level of announcement to get me onboard day one. Otherwise I can probably not fall victim to FOMO and give the system a year to build up its library, but we'll see. These are just current ramblings and subject to change without notice.

Alot of that re: increases in cross-platform across the board makes perfect sense, because the economics of modern gaming are slowly knocking down the walls of software exclusivity and clearly companies have to pivot. Now that doesn't mean Mario and Zelda will be coming to PC next week but their infamous over-protection of certain IP under their umbrella may need a bit of flexibility. Something like Bayonetta is definitely too niche to remain exclusive if the hope is to expand its appeal. In general and for the foreseeable future, Nintendo is clearly positioned as the company least likely to have their major IPs dragged kicking and screaming off their own platform.

Nintendo's interest in Bayonetta is it's value as an exclusive. They'll have no interest in publishing it on competing platforms.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

So is this fueling your original theory about BC, that the delay is in part due to Nintendo figuring out a 'best case' solution under these technical conditions?

I have no idea. Maybe that is the delay, i tend to think that software is not fully ready.

Something all these podcasters, insiders never mention. With the extended development time and cost of major projects, even for Nintendo. There is ZERO chance you are getting all brand new Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash, Animal Crossing, etc for next gen.

So my question is, what games are Deluxe? My best guess is Animal Crossing, or Smash. Though, i do wonder if they consider making Smash Melee HD w/ a new Roster expansion, just to light the internet ablaze.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Nintendo's interest in Bayonetta is its value as an exclusive. They'll have no interest in publishing it on competing platforms.

We will see. I think it comes to other platforms. Also remember, it was on the Nvidia leak. The WHOLE trilogy. Not saying things don’t change. But, i suspect it does come to other places next gen.

But hell, what do i know. I fully expect FFVIIR is coming to Switch 2 and Xbox, and PC. Despite Sony and Square saying otherwise.

 

[March Climber]

Next Nintendo console is just called “Nintendo” confirmed by Yooka-Re-Playlee

Very cheeky with the eyes..

 

[dragonyeuw]

Coupe of quick thoughts.

1.) I am sure there is some small gimmick. I used to think it was AR. Especially since, Mario Kart Live. BUT, the company that made that game was acquired by Apple several years back to Nintendo’s surprise, if i am not mistaken. So now, i believe it is likely software related. Whatever it may be. I actually think Miiverse would be awesome. But, i doubt they want to moderate that in 2025, with the state of the world.

2.) I also believe Nintendo has damaged their public’s interest in Switch 2, since they have not showed it yet. Make no mistake though, Switch 2 has the potential to be the biggest console launch since PS2! Which is wild to think about.

3.) You mentioned Zelda OoT remake. I also think this is a near certainty for next gen. Even though it may be the only new 3d Zelda you get. I think a BotW Deluxe is coming, as well as Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. I think this would be a smart revenue stream for Nintendo to use. Remaking/reimaging older games for today’s audience.

The industry has been up to its eyeballs in remakes/remasters lately and I've been rolling my eyes at it as much as the next person, but a remade OOT would send me over the moon. Give me a balls to the wall Resident Evil 2 level overhaul/reimagining and they'd have my money day zero.

A Windwaker remaster is less exciting for me as it falls in the same 'it's been rumored for so long I'm over it' vein as Switch 2 at present. But I'll take it when it comes lol.....even better would be a brand new Zelda with the Windwaker artstyle. Funny how the original Gamecube release was so maligned and now it's a complete 180.

 

[bender]

Next Nintendo console is just called “Nintendo” confirmed by Yooka-Re-Playlee.

Also confirmed by most every mom since the 80s. Sony's next console will be called a Nintendo too.

 

[Woopah]

We will see. I think it comes to other platforms. Also remember, it was on the Nvidia leak. The WHOLE trilogy. Not saying things don’t change. But, i suspect it does come to other places next gen.

But hell, what do i know. I fully expect FFVIIR is coming to Switch 2 and Xbox, and PC. Despite Sony and Square saying otherwise.

Bayonetta may come to other platforms, but only if Nintendo doesn't publish it and gives their permission.

They might do it as a favour to Platinum (like they did with Wonderful 101).

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Bayonetta may come to other platforms, but only if Nintendo doesn't publish it and gives their permission.

They might do it as a favour to Platinum (like they did with Wonderful 101).

Possibly. Actually Wonderfull 101 IP was returned to Platinum in exchange for Astral Chain IP.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

More and more these days are reminding of the last days of the wii...

How so? Wii was a desert during its last years, whereas Switch is still getting new releases.

 

[NanaMiku]

Possibly. Actually Wonderfull 101 IP was returned to Platinum in exchange for Astral Chain IP.

Oh I didn't know about that. I thought Nintendo was asking Platinum to make an action game for them.

Astral Chain was initially envisioned as a fantasy game where the player would utilize magic, however at Nintendo's recommendation the game was changed to a cyberpunk setting as they felt it would be more unique.

Dang, that was awesome. Thank you, Nintendo.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Nintendo's interest in Bayonetta is it's value as an exclusive. They'll have no interest in publishing it on competing platforms.

I would have guessed its value would chiefly be in how many units it can move potentially over it being a niche IP on their platform, but I have no clue what their internal metrics are for that game.

 

[Woopah]

I would have guessed its value would chiefly be in how many units it can move potentially over it being a niche IP on their platform, but I have no clue what their internal metrics are for that game.

As a platform holder, Nintendo's metrics will not just be unit sales, but also making the Switch more attractive to different types of customers.

Bayonetta and Astral Chain filled a niche in Nintendo's lineup. Their hope is that those games persuade more people to pick up a Switch, which then gives Nintendo higher software and possibly subscription revenue.

It's why the publish games even if they aren't huge sellers. It's all about offering a range of software.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Next Nintendo console is just called “Nintendo” confirmed by Yooka-Re-Playlee

I’m sure you’re aware the logo is just a placeholder because they can’t confirm it for a platform that doesn’t exist yet.

 

[Radical_3d]

Not gonna lie: I’m going to miss October and this thread.

 

[Moochi]

Switch 2 eye tracking confirmed

 

[Robb]

I’m sure you’re aware the logo is just a placeholder because they can’t confirm it for a platform that doesn’t exist yet.

Spoiler

Yes, I very much am.

 

[RoadHazard]

It's now late October, OP redeemed!

 

[Davevil]

It's now late October, OP redeemed!

 

[Jeff Spicoli]

We can already say that it's late November, still no news about Switch 2

 

[Emedan]

I should have specified something. Switch 1 is ARM processor as well. It was explained to me though, that not all ARMS processors are exactly alike, and don’t assume you can move from one system to another automatically. SOC’s can be very different and all be classified as ARM.

Yeah that doesn’t apply to the switch 2 though if it runs the rumoured Nvidia chip. They would have to go out of their way to not make it backwards compatible.

 

[clarky]

Mods can we get a title change to late November please?

 

[midnightAI]

They've decided Switch is enough, they saw thread on Gaf about how Nintendo proves you don't need better hardware and listened to Shawn Layden say it's all plateaued so they have decided gamers don't need it

(Don't listen to them Nintendo)

 

[Woopah]

It's the late 21st Century and Nintendo still hasn't given any hints about the Switch 4 successor.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Yeah that doesn’t apply to the switch 2 though if it runs the rumoured Nvidia chip. They would have to go out of their way to not make it backwards compatible.

Well, hopefully we find out sooner than later. Though, if it isn’t this week, I assume we are waiting a bit.

 

[justiceiro]

How so? Wii was a desert during its last years, whereas Switch is still getting new releases.

Wii in it's last year got Mario party, guess which game just released on switch? The last story also came that year. I don't think Zelda wisdom or Mario brothership will much more memorable than these.

Beyond that, Wii also received a Zelda game just before console was announced, meaning the next one would take a while to come out...

I remember it took more than a year between announcement and release of the next console...

I could go on, but I think time will clarify things

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Wii in it's last year got Mario party, guess which game just released on switch? The last story also came that year. I don't think Zelda wisdom or Mario brothership will much more memorable than these.

Beyond that, Wii also received a Zelda game just before console was announced, meaning the next one would take a while to come out...

I remember it took more than a year between announcement and release of the next console...

I could go on, but I think time will clarify things

Zelda Echoes of Wisdom can be your parallel to Skyward Sword if that's the analogy you're trying to make. It seems to be better received though, and that's coming from someone who likes Skyward Sword. I'll give you Mario Party but you have no parallel to Brothership or to Metroid Prime 4. DKCR is getting a port and I'd bet my avatar it won't be the last.
(Kirby Rainbow Curse and/or Yoshi's Woolly World are likely candidates in my opinion).

As far as The Last Story and Pandora's Tower, those wouldn't even have come out in America if it weren't for extensive pressure from fans, and iirc XSEED ended up publishing. I know in Europe this was not the case, but I don't see anything of that kind happening on Switch. Software is still selling at a healthy rate as far as I know.

Switch also just received a new Famicom Detective Club. And I'll bet there are a few more small releases coming such as Rhythm Heaven. Denpa Men Fantasian and other third party games are also on the way. 2025 will clearly be a light year on Switch but it won't be a desert. Switch will also still be supported in 2026.

Edit: looks like you're also forgetting several significant releases including Dragon Quest III HD-2D this year and Pokemon Legends Z-A next year. Civilization VII is also releasing next year. So no, I think your argument does not stand.

 

[Davevil]

late november intensified

 

[Trilobit]

Mods can we get a title change to late November please?

December now please!