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Jet collides with helicopter near D.C.
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DeepEnigma
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Why the fuck was that helicopter even there?
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Just saw this
Awful
Black Hawk too, wonder why it was in such sensitive airspace
Awful
Black Hawk too, wonder why it was in such sensitive airspace
HoodWinked
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crazy but this is the first fatal US domestic passenger fatal crash in 16 years.
weird thing is the origin of the helicopter flight showing it took off from some rich suburbs but maybe the data is only partial.
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IFireflyl
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Kacho
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I’m just glad I saw this before going to bed. That area tomorrow will be a cluster.
Any word on the number of passengers? Horrible situation.
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I collect VHS tapes
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Jesus Christ, can you imagine surviving this? Your fucking airplane explodes and then you land in freezing pitch dark water
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Digital-Aftertaste
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For people wondering Air Traffic Control is one of the most mentally demanding jobs due to high amount of air traffic and low amount of staff members in any given airport. There are people that quit due to stress and high responsibility because this very accident that occurred is what they try to avoid from happening all the time.
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This is an area where AI can really help.
Jinzo Prime
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So this wasn't on ATC, this was the helicopter pilot. What the fuck was he thinking?
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Kacho
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A lot of people are putting on their tinfoil hats but I think this sounds plausible.
TLDR: ATC asks helicopter if they have visual on the plane. Helicopter pilot confirms but they see the plane departing, not the plane approaching.
StreetsofBeige
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Dumb question since I know nothing about planes and helicopters.
But why would the heli pilot be flying on (I think human eye visuals) instead of whatever radar stuff they got which youd think would show multiple planes around him?
But why would the heli pilot be flying on (I think human eye visuals) instead of whatever radar stuff they got which youd think would show multiple planes around him?
I collect VHS tapes
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So he just didn’t see the plane that he crashed into? Don’t they have a ton of lights?
Miyazaki’s Slave
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Regan is a complete shit show of an airport.
I avoid it at all costs whenever its possible.
The approach landing is always a nightmare because the runway location/positing.
This is awful.
I avoid it at all costs whenever its possible.
The approach landing is always a nightmare because the runway location/positing.
This is awful.
newtypepilot
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ChuckeRearmed
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Don't they fly there quite often? I recall hearing that there was some military base nearby.
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PonyStation4
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The video right above you explains it
MaestroMike
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Mr Reasonable
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It'd be fairly difficult to intentionally position a helicopter directly in the path of an aeroplane, I'd have thought.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I wonder how difficult it would be for an autonomous helicopter to succeed with that.
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-u...bited-first-autonomous-black-hawk-flight.html
But just me thinking out loudly and it likely was just an accident. Sad night for all involved.
Shifty1897
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I know now it sounds like this wasn't on Air Traffic Control at all, but just to reiterate how difficult of a job it is, my college roommate who had straight A's, was promoted to management and senior management roles at huge companies and is the most financially successful friend I have, studied for and failed the air traffic controller test. It's apparently brutal.
Pegasus Actual
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Sounds like a massive fuckup by the helo crew. Apparently, they're supposed to be at 200ft and the collision was more like 350ft. It sounds like they fly without the transponder in the mode that feeds ATC with telemetry? Possible that prevented ATC giving a better callout to the helo on where the CRJ they needed a visual was relative to them.
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MOSCOW, Jan 30 (Reuters) - Russian ice skating coaches and former world champions Yevgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov were on board the American Airlines plane that crashed into the Potomac River in Washington on Wednesday night, Russian state media reported.
Shishkova and Naumov, who were married to each other, won the world championships in pairs figure skating in 1994 and had reportedly lived in the United States since at least 1998, where they trained young ice skaters.
Their son Maxim, who competed for the United States in singles, was also feared to have been on board the plane, Russia's TASS and RIA news agencies reported. He had been competing at the U.S. figure skating championships in Wichita, Kansas from Jan. 20-26, according to the event's website.
The couple were reported to have been returning from the competition and traveling with a group of young skaters. Russia's Mash news outlet published a list of 13 skaters, many of them the children of Russian emigres to the United States, who it said were believed to have been on the plane.
Inna Volyanskaya, a former skater who competed for the Soviet Union, was also reported to have been on board, TASS said. She was a coach at the Washington figure skating club, according to its website.
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Awful to think of what happened to these young promising kids.
HoodWinked
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100% the helicopter pilots fault. There was absolutely no reason for the pilot to have flown in the runway path. Even if there were no planes that area should have been off limits at that height.
SlimySnake
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Don’t make everything about politics.
People who get to fly these black hawks have earned it.
ClanOfNone
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ATC is a notoriously difficult career, sounds like a prime candidate for AI integration. Even the best humans make mistakes/errors, having an AI backup or even running the show will probably be something we see in the future.
ChuckeRearmed
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Yeah, with AI it can perform the jobs like that easier - plus if planes and helicopters can connect to each other they can in theory receive signals and automatically avoid collisions.
CharmingCharlie
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I don't get why people go straight to the damn blame game. We literally know nothing of anything right now except for the fact a military helicopter crashed with a passenger plane. How about we WAIT till we have all the facts before we start apportioning blame.