King Gilga
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That's amazing.
JonTron Releases a Statement
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That's amazing.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It's 50/50. Some upvotes are sympathizing with him while others are taking to task with what he said.
SerTapTap
Member
Honestly political discourse seems to be largely beyond the point where people (at least "alr right" people) will admit an argument or statement was made poorly. They just scream that it was fine because they agree with it and if you didn't like it, it's because you're an offended snowflake liberal cuck etc.
It's why there's no dialog to be had with these people. They're not arguing on genuine terms, they're, ironically "virtue signalling" to show other racist punks they're on their side, and anyone who disagrees is just automatically Evil Liberals.
It's why Milo and the like were popular. Couldn't argue their way out of a paper fucking bag, but he sure hated muslims so he was alright by them.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Funny how it took the subscriber shitstorm to get this, and even then, he can't even damage control properly. Won't be surprised if this is one of the few instances where he continues to lose subs even after his pathetic damage control attempt.
Always. There's like 4 basic comments that get thrown out and when those inevitably fail, because obviously, they'll just dip or demand the thread be closed.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I know whenever I've had a long day at work I sometimes accidentally marginalize oppressed groups all the time.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Relatively speaking, practically none. A vast majority of his three million plus subscribers have no idea this ever even happened. That is, of course, also why this video is unlisted.
A Link to the Past
Banned
"I'm not racist, I just was flustered"
JonTron likely truly believes he's not a racist.
JonTron likely truly believes he's not a racist.
jacob armitage
Banned
Not as bad as i expected - some people just shit posting, some taking his side, others taking him to task. Its an unlisted video however so we'll see how much it gets passed around.
Can you monetize unlisted videos? I'd hate to think of him getting revenue off this.
It's okay Scooter, it's alright to "try out new ideas".
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
These guys need to hire some PR manager. If an actual journalist they're so against said the things JonTron said doubled down on it, you would bank that they would not only be against, but also get the journalist fired.
I stubbed my toe last week and shouted about the zionist thot muslamic immigrant terrorists but it was just a random thought in the heat of the moment. I totally don't actually believe these things I've alluded to many times over.
Perfect Blue
Banned
Dude needs to button up his shirt lol
It's the American way
SerTapTap
Member
The painful irony is this sort of scum has been by far the most harmful thing to America since the Iraq war, arguably worse (I don't agree with it, but it was for a reason. This is just idiocy).
They don't care about America though, not real America. Just magical white-only 'utopia' America. Really wish people did a better job at tearing into them for being anti-American because they are. but like I said in my last comment, there's not really much point in arguing with them, they're not doing it genuinely.
You can, yeah, dunno if this one in particular is.
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Poorly seasoned food.
Yeah, the other day at the store I tried to find a Switch carrying case, didn't have any so naturally I went...
Honestly jontron is more openly racist than almost anyone I've seen lately. Even 'white nationalists' act like all they want is a racially segregated state. Jon is just straight up saying that black people are biologically predisposed to being criminals.
Ninja Scooter
Member
You're banned but I'm sure you are just some alt so maybe you'll read this anyway:
What you've said here is the same weak ass argument people like you are forced to use when defending moronic bigots like JonTron. Bring up strawmen to try and legitimize your pathetic position because without, it becomes readily apparent thatyou have no leg to stand on. Nobody is sending him death threats. Nobody is asking for Jon to be crucified. Nobody is asking for him to be arrested. Nobody is asking for him to be hurt. People are using the same public, social platform (the internet) that he used to spew his hateful nonsense to criticize him for said hateful nonsense. Yet, to you, that puts everyone on equal footing. You (and whoever your various other alt accounts are) are full of shit.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No, they need to not be racist.
Hiring a PR manager just means they know they're full of shit and they'd like to pay someone to make their shit smell better, and maybe sculpt it into a decorative end table or small statue or something that isn't awful to look at.
PR manager basically lets him consistently shit himself with the safety and knowledge that someone is going to wipe his ass for him.
Honestly, who needs a PR manager when a good 1/3-1/2 of his fanbase is going to volunteer their talents at amateur spin in every forum/messageboard/reddit & facebook thread? That's free labor.
well that is the case with every racist
Lucky Seven
Banned
Could somebody please stop him? Have any of his friends gone out and said, "Yeah, we talked about he said, I told him what was wrong, but he doesn't see it". How could he be doubling down, now?
Monochromaticx
Member
Fuck off.
JonnyDBrit
Member
So, from the sounds of it, it seems like Jon ends up falling back on abstract arguments of how he failed to properly explain himself, while failing to really address or qualify the implications of specific statements from the stream.
Now I'm gonna hesitate in following youtubers until there's some clear indication of their values.
Now I'm gonna hesitate in following youtubers until there's some clear indication of their values.
"I'm not racist, I just was flustered"
JonTron likely truly believes he's not a racist.
The governor of Maine said the state was at war with black people then threatened to actually murder a state legislator because the legislator called him racist. There's a 0% chance JonTron thinks he's racist in any way. It's why arguing about who is racist and who isn't doesn't work. Most people are incapable of processing the idea that they're a "racist."
I really want to go back in time and find out when history changed for so many people that Hitler and the Nazi's only targeted the Jews, and white supremacy wasn't at all a driving factor for them. Because every time someone gets caught being a fucking racist, their defense is pretty much "I'm not a Nazi, I've got nothing against Jews cause they're white!" without saying so explicitly.
CloudyTuba
Member
So basically what he's saying is...he meant exactly what he said, he just wanted it to sound nicer.
Okay.
Okay.
watching JonTron videos
Garrett Hawke
Member
pewdiepie directly mentioned sargon of fucking akkad in his "HERE'S WHY THE MEDIA IS WRONG" video
doing a really good job of proving how not shitty they are lmao
He probably kept accidentally saying things that were 'incriminating'
You will revel in the scraggly pubes growing on his chest, and you will enjoy it.
chronic_archaic
Member
Good thing I never watched his videos. Guy sounds like a giant piece of shit.
jacob armitage
Banned
*giggles*
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