remember_spinal
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Kojima: Microsoft Understood ‘Unusual’ Game when Others ‘thought he was mad’
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Talk about shit posting. Give it a rest.
DeepEnigma
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Show me the way, sensei.
Punished Miku
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Yes, you figured it out. Underneath these comments by Kojima, what he's really saying is "Xbox has no gamez." It's the one universal truth underpinning all statements.
FoxMcChief
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Have they made it known they want to make a non Halo game?
remember_spinal
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Yeah, the state of Halo Infinite and the top members of the team leaving
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Henry Panic
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Might be more that they saw Death Stranding sell well, and expect they'll receive those same sales guaranteed with his next game if they partner with him.
Watch it sell like Zone of the enders.
Watch it sell like Zone of the enders.
Punished Miku
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Kojima's going to have to release another statement today that his relationship with Sony remains very strong, or things could get out of hand. These people are crazy. You can't just say something positive about MS like that.
https://kotaku.com/hideo-kojima-productions-xbox-playstation-fanboys-state-1849056141
https://kotaku.com/hideo-kojima-productions-xbox-playstation-fanboys-state-1849056141
Kojima getting death threats from Sony fanboys already no doubt
NonPhixion
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Oh wow! Now that he’s making a MS game I truly get that he is a genius and master at making top tier games. I never saw that about him until the announcement this past summer.
Punished Miku
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Kojima 12 hours from now: "Sony is super open minded and they always understand unusual things I say, in English or Japanese."
plip.plop
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Power of the Cloud. lol
I bet this game is a timed exclusive, it will show up on the PS platform since Sony went with MS Azure for cloud gaming and streaming services.
I feel MS wanted this game because it would show the potential of cloud gaming. Since they got burned so severely about cloud gaming last gen (looking at you Crackdown 3 destruction physics).
They have already shown the difference that can be achieved with a cloud-enhanced game in Flight Simulator. But they need to convince Devs to use those features for it to ever be viable.
I bet this game is a timed exclusive, it will show up on the PS platform since Sony went with MS Azure for cloud gaming and streaming services.
I feel MS wanted this game because it would show the potential of cloud gaming. Since they got burned so severely about cloud gaming last gen (looking at you Crackdown 3 destruction physics).
They have already shown the difference that can be achieved with a cloud-enhanced game in Flight Simulator. But they need to convince Devs to use those features for it to ever be viable.
Kagoshima_Luke
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Hopefully it's co-developed with 343.
That will be
That will be
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Kojima just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase a Kojima game for the Xbox Series X|S, nor will they purchase any of Kojima’s future games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima has alienated an entire market with this move.
Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel this game pass game for the Series X|S or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase a Kojima game for the Xbox Series X|S, nor will they purchase any of Kojima’s future games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima has alienated an entire market with this move.
Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel this game pass game for the Series X|S or you can kiss your business goodbye.
MasterCornholio
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To be fair both companies allow Kojima to have a lot of freedom with his games.
Pretty sure Konami would never allow him to make something as bizarre as Death Stranding.
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MasterCornholio
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remember_spinal
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Of course they were lol
Constant FUD headlines around a major sony title typically tend to be
FoxMcChief
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NonPhixion
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Your satirical post is even funnier when you note that the Japanese public may have had any interest in buying Xbox games before Kojimas comments. Hahaha well played.
Bridges
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Truthfully, I would prefer another Strand type game for the Xbox partnership, but I'm excited to see what he's come up with.
Streaming isn't really my thing but there are few creators out there that are still making strides to push the medium in new directions like he is.
I hope we hear more soon.
Streaming isn't really my thing but there are few creators out there that are still making strides to push the medium in new directions like he is.
I hope we hear more soon.
Halo2redvsblue
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Doesn't matter how this game turns out, Geoff Keighley will make sure this game wins game of the year and MS will finally have a Goty game lol
CherryFalls
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I'll go wherever Kojima goes
March Climber
Member
This confirms it for me.
It has to be that rumored AAA game that deletes itself once you lose/die in it. Gamepass finally exists(which is what I feel Kojima is hinting at), so people can't get pissed off that they lost money on it.
It has to be that rumored AAA game that deletes itself once you lose/die in it. Gamepass finally exists(which is what I feel Kojima is hinting at), so people can't get pissed off that they lost money on it.
Gamerguy84
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It's the association with Kojima they want. They don't care about risks, they don't care about losing money.
XBOX has infinite amounts of money as long as MS believes at some point it will become a cash cow.
XBOX has infinite amounts of money as long as MS believes at some point it will become a cash cow.
Men_in_Boxes
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Protect this man at all costs. He's the Japanese Altus single handedly saving AAA from the gutter.
Kojima, you are loved.
Kojima, you are loved.
bentanchorbolt
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I can't get excited for a Kojima game. I just can't.
bentanchorbolt
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Now, yes --- but this is relatively new from MS which has a history of making square pegs fit into round holes.
This amusing timeline where people have - out of platform bias - convinced themselves that MS is losing money on gaming...
that’s basically it.
he can probably convince them to do a cloud based real-time watch paint dry game.
which is admittedly not that far off from death stranding lol.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Kagey K
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343i was built from the ground up to be the Halo studio and they made it well known at the time. You don't apply for a job there unless you want to work on Halo. Even the name of it is a Halo reference FFS.
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i would probably like it more without the classic nonsensical kojima story interrupting tbh.Damn, it's a boring game carried only by the story, but still damn that's harsh
then it could be a perfect audiobook/podcast companion
yurinka
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Yes, normally people who invest hundreds of millions on a project want to play it safe and avoid unproven very weird and different ideas.
Because you know, normally companies want to turn their investments into profit.
They simply see that looking at market numbers the cloud gaming is still on its infancy and it's still too small to put games exclusively on cloud gaming.
Sony is working on the mobile and tvs client but maybe weren't sure if were going to have it released on time for the game. Or maybe Kojima wanted to make it cloud only and Sony wasn't interested on it and MS was open to get anything from Kojima even if unprofitable.
Because you know, normally companies want to turn their investments into profit.
Sony never said that, and they have been the first console maker to invest on cloud gaming and in fact they own the largest subscription service with cloud gaming and the biggest cloud gaming library, plus a huge chunk of the related patents.
They simply see that looking at market numbers the cloud gaming is still on its infancy and it's still too small to put games exclusively on cloud gaming.
They have both the infrastructure and the patents. The only thing they may not have is to have released the client for mobile and tvs they patented and announced many years ago, or the will to release soon a game only in cloud gaming because they could have considered it unprofitable.
Sony is working on the mobile and tvs client but maybe weren't sure if were going to have it released on time for the game. Or maybe Kojima wanted to make it cloud only and Sony wasn't interested on it and MS was open to get anything from Kojima even if unprofitable.
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343 was put together to make halo games.
trikster40
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Microsoft doesn't really understand it, but they're not stupid enough to turn Kojima away.
You're absolutely right and flight simulator is a first and third person vehicle simulator like forza. Fuck objects and how they play.
MarkMe2525
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Kojima "They let me take a creative risk on a game concept that hasn't been done before"
Your translation of Kojima "I'm intentionally making a shitty game just for the cash grab, and I'm getting one over on MS."
What a weird take.
Edit: I don't know how to take your comment any other way. There is definitely a negative connotation to it. This negative connotation may end up being true but we have absolutely no concrete information on what this project is.
edit: edit: It is interesting to see how console tribalism has molded this conversation. I would imagine it would be a lot different if Kojima had made these comments about Sony or Nintendo. "Nintendo/Sony is giving me creative freedom to make a game like no other before." would probably be followed by applause from most fans of his. Yet here it's "MS is desperate""
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remember_spinal
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remember_spinal
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It would be a different discussion from both sides
El Pistolero
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They understood nothing...They just happen to have "fuck you" money to throw at any silly idea; and happen to really want to have you on board.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
You are right about that. Interesting none the less.
Personally, I'm more intrigued than anything regarding this project. His work is usually hit or miss with me. The idea of a game like none made before has me racking my brain and curious if maybe there is a reason we have not seen a game like this for a reason. Time will tell.
remember_spinal
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They’re currently putting hats and scarves on controllers…beggars can’t be choosers.
March Climber
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You don't have to. As long as you're alright with what this represents as a bigger picture, AAA creative freedom.
bentanchorbolt
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I'm super cool with anyone making whatever they want. Elden Ring got a lot of love and I find it to be a bore, not worth playing --- but I'm glad it exists. Elden Ring brings joy to a lot of people, just like Kojima.