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Kratos Could Finally Be Heading To Egypt

Soodanim

Member
I disagree, I think Roman would be utterly boring, unless you did it with the notion that somehow they were brought back to life, which could be interesting. Deja Vu wouldn't be.

As for the Abrahamic ones, I think it wouldn't be boring at all. You have a massive pantheon when you consider everything.

Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Azrael, Samael, David, Samson, Moses, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Mammon, Asmodeus, Leviathan, Satan, Belphegor. You also have the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, Death, War, Famine, and Pestilience.

You also have several demons who fall under the 7 princes or kings of hell.

The pantheon is much bigger than most.
Roman was a joke about it being a copy paste. I agree that as a game it wouldn't work without excellent reasoning as you suggested.

You're right to name all of those, but other than some of the main ones or borrowing from other IPs I'm not sure what good half of them would be. The tiers of angels have potential, as does Lilith. With pantheons you get real distinction. Gods of elements or concepts. With Abrahamic you just get one boss and a bunch of subordinates.

Maybe shining some light on Pagan gods would be an avenue with potential. They don't get covered nearly as much as the rest so you could really get creative. That said, I know nothing about them and they might be the most boring of all.

Throwing another one out there: Maori gods.
 
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TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
If GoW Egypt happens, I demand they honor Ubisoft canon and incorporate a Boss fight against Bahamut, who is now flying around ancient Giza. IYKYK, homes.
 
So how do we know it’s not teenage,/young adult Atreus in Egypt? I hope not, and if it is I hope it flops. I don’t hate him as much as some here do but I don’t want to play as him for a whole game.
 
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Pretty sure that Atreus will be left behind in Norseville, that's the story.
Understand Captain America GIF
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Roman was a joke about it being a copy paste. I agree that as a game it wouldn't work without excellent reasoning as you suggested.

You're right to name all of those, but other than some of the main ones or borrowing from other IPs I'm not sure what good half of them would be. The tiers of angels have potential, as does Lilith. With pantheons you get real distinction. Gods of elements or concepts. With Abrahamic you just get one boss and a bunch of subordinates.

Maybe shining some light on Pagan gods would be an avenue with potential. They don't get covered nearly as much as the rest so you could really get creative. That said, I know nothing about them and they might be the most boring of all.

Throwing another one out there: Maori gods.

Baldur doesn't really have much background in Norse mythology but they created an entire game around him.
 
In all seriousness, I would love for Kratos to come to 2020 during peak degeneracy.

I wanna see him take down the mythical patriarchy that's keeping women down.
 
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Soodanim

Member
Baldur doesn't really have much background in Norse mythology but they created an entire game around him.
At least Baldr the reborn gives you something to work with. The pantheon gods stood out for one reason or another.

You clearly know more than I do so I will defer to your expertise: what makes the names you gave unique? A power, trait, or other defining characteristic that would make them interesting in a game.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Enough with your ignorance. You cannot even tell the difference between race and ethnicity.
Let's go to websters.


"In sum: the term race is understood today as primarily a sociological designation that identifies a group sharing some outward physical characteristics and some commonalities of culture and history, while ethnicity is a word for something you acquire based on where your family is from and the group which you share cultural, traditional, and familial bonds and experiences with. The end result: people may have racial similarity but ethnic dissimilarity."

The terms are essentially synonymous for most purposes in that they both attempt to describe subjective qualities that are highly mutable based on your POV.

Cleopatra was unlikely to be genetically related to most of the population of Egypt, true. Same with most ruling classes over their populations, they lived almost ENTIRELLY different lives back then and often had substantial language, cultural, and genetic differences due to separation. So im sure some labirer in egypt circa 45 bc would think the Ptolemys were a very different tyoe of person. But from an outsiders perspective coming from say Gaul or whatever, both would likely seem indistinguishable as the racial and ethnic differences would seem slight in comparison.

None of this suggests she wouldn't be "Egyptian".
 

nial

Member
Literally all speculation from that leaker with nothing suggesting that it's the case.
As for what I think, I believe we won't see a new (mainline, at least) God of War game for a long time.
 
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Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
At least Baldr the reborn gives you something to work with. The pantheon gods stood out for one reason or another.

You clearly know more than I do so I will defer to your expertise: what makes the names you gave unique? A power, trait, or other defining characteristic that would make them interesting in a game.
They all have different themes, powers, and weapons. Beelzebub for example is the lord of the flies. There's a ton of lore about each one and largely they're all pretty much known as stand-ins for the devil. Leviathan is pretty well known but not his origins, you often see him in games represented as a sea monster or controlling water.

You could build a game based on each of the princes of hell and then you still have the arch angels/seraphim.

I'm telling you, you could make an epic game based on it.
 

.Xeno

Member
This sounds great, pretty sure I remember hearing that Cory Barlog wanted to do Egypt before they ended up going with Norse instead.
 

The Fartist

Gold Member
Aztec/Mayan/Olmec setting would've been more interesting, Egypt is cool but it's over-represented in entertainment media. They could introduce the conquistadors at the end of the duology/trilogy and move on to Abrahamic GoW.
 

Soodanim

Member
They all have different themes, powers, and weapons. Beelzebub for example is the lord of the flies. There's a ton of lore about each one and largely they're all pretty much known as stand-ins for the devil. Leviathan is pretty well known but not his origins, you often see him in games represented as a sea monster or controlling water.

You could build a game based on each of the princes of hell and then you still have the arch angels/seraphim.

I'm telling you, you could make an epic game based on it.
You're selling me on it.

Might be better off leaning more on Old Testament if we're talking Bible though, the peace aspect doesn't make for a strong GoW setting.

Seeing as this isn't ever happening anyway, anything interesting deities or related figures in Islam that you could throw into an Abrahamic setting?
 

Saber

Member
It will be lucky if in this game he will be fighting enemies as angry Kratos and not encountering social stuff inserted.
Back in the time this was teased by some rumors and leaks I was sincerelly interested. But after Ragnarok I no longer have any interest in this franchise.
 
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Please tie things together and don't make it feel like another soft reboot, make Greek and Norse events having impact on other mythologies (eg: Anubis having some sort of relation with Hades and Hel).
Have a fucking war declared, because Kratos is slaying all pantheons and with that the age of gods are coming to an end.

It doesn't have to be that complicated, we just need a raging protagonist going against hordes of creatures and gods again.
This will work. Or Atreus is executed by the Egyptian gods for stealing king tuts nuts or something and Kratos goes off. Lots of different ways to return to a more brutal tone. Hopefully the gameplay continues to improve and they don’t revert to the original trilogy completely. Only big change needs to be to eliminate whoever wrote ragnarok.. eek.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
You're selling me on it.

Might be better off leaning more on Old Testament if we're talking Bible though, the peace aspect doesn't make for a strong GoW setting.

Seeing as this isn't ever happening anyway, anything interesting deities or related figures in Islam that you could throw into an Abrahamic setting?

Not to take this to a religious place, but all the Abrahamic religions are the same. It's like trying to compare Roman and greek gods.

Michael is in the the torah, the bible, and the quran. The most interesting characters are the seraphim/arch angels, the seven princes of hell who were thrown out of heaven in a failed coup, and the demons that serve the princes of hell. You also have some characters like hercules and jason who are mortals like David and Sampson. I would say the quran has fewer mystical characters though focusing more on real life figures, but you do have things like the jinn. Ifrit who comes up a lot in video games like Final Fantasy is a jinn.
 

mdkirby

Gold Member
Meh, it’ll be ok, pretty safe and boring tho as a choice, and already done a lot in gaming and other media. Would have liked for something more interesting.
 

Zacfoldor

Member
This kinda gets my juices flowing. It could be good....Ragnarok hater here...could still be good...really good if they have decent writers. Can you imagine what Larian could do with a premise like this?
 
Don't know lads, after the bloated, tepid, Marvel-ized borefest that was Ragnarok i lost all interest in this franchise - not that I found GOW 2018 to be anything spectacular either but, it was still better than Ragnarok.

Tank-like, WASD controls...in an action game, with a camera so up and close Krato's ass that the game needs danger/direction markers as to be able to know whether an enemy is going to land a hit on you (lol), terrible, Americanized Marvel brainrot writing, boring, generic high-fantasy looking levels, box-like environments interconnected by narrow hallways, toned down violence and bullshit RPG mechanics...
I forced myself to finish it and that doesn't happen often with the games I play.

Man, fuck this whole reboot and the touchy feely and highly Americanized bullshit, this isn't GOW, another reinvented franchise for modern audiences, and the funny thing is, after only 2 games the whole thing feels already long in the tooth - something which took 6 games from the OG franchise to happen.

This is gonna need YET ANOTHER reboot after the dust settles 'cause otherwise we're gonna get bored out of our G'damned minds.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
Aztec/Mayan/Olmec setting would've been more interesting, Egypt is cool but it's over-represented in entertainment media. They could introduce the conquistadors at the end of the duology/trilogy and move on to Abrahamic GoW.
But to be true to the Abrahamic 'mythos' there would have to be NO OTHER GODS, so the entire thing kinda falls apart. If Yahweh/Allah was just another god that wouldn't go down so well. You'd have to pull a Tolkien and have it be fallen angels and sub-deity type stuff.

Seeing Kratos go mano y mano with Jesus would be cool though :p
 

Danjin44

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This is gonna need YET ANOTHER reboot after the dust settles 'cause otherwise we're gonna get bored out of our G'damned minds.
I rather they just end series and move on in to brand new IP instead….God of War is not type of series that can continue endlessly.
 
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Fake

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I rather they just end series and move on in to brand new IP instead….God of War is not type of series that continue endlessly.

They can't. They tried to get rid of Kratos, but along with Spider-Man he is a very powerful IP to get over.

I don't think the franchise need to 'end', but rather take a huge gap between the next one and try to make a new IP.


IMO they are getting pressed by the recent failures Sony is having in their gaming division.
 

Danjin44

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They can't. They tried to get rid of Kratos, but along with Spider-Man he is a very powerful IP to get over.

I don't think the franchise need to 'end', but rather take a huge gap between the next one and try to make a new IP.


IMO they are getting pressed by the recent failures Sony is having in their gaming division.
It does, God of War is not same as Final Fantasy with each game takes place in brand new world with new cast of characters. It’s continues story with returning main character, the story has to end at some point.
 
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