TehGoomba7s
Member
Played some BO6 in the quality mode today and while it does look better it's not worth the performance hit. 120hz is crucial for CoD for me now.
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List of PS5 Pro enhanced games
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EMR
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Where exactly do we choose the graphics mode in Bops 6? I can only mark 120hz.
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TehGoomba7s
Member
If you untick 120hz it automatically goes to 60hz quality mode. That now runs unlocked on ps5 pro so if you have a vrr display you get better quality at 90-100fps.
gooner4life_uk
Member
It's actually less necessary in VR, your FOV is typically more narrow and your focus is more like real life so SSR is fine as you're not typically looking at the wider area and noticing that reflections disappear when outside of screenspace.
Giallo Corsa
Member
What about the resolution ?
Skifi28
Member
Doesn't look bad, usual FSR2 artifacts aside. Definitely sharper than it did on the base machine.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Stutter on PS5??? The hell?
Skifi28
Member
Unreal engine will unreal engine regardless of platform, not exactly surprising.
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HeisenbergFX4
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https://wccftech.com/ps5-pro-runs-m...ays-dev-a-comparable-pc-would-be-more-costly/
Sorry already posted, I can't keep up
Sorry already posted, I can't keep up
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Anyone notice this oddity? Monster Hunter Wilds is no longer listed as Pro patched along with Callisto Protocol
FUBARx89
Member
I would stop, delete, and reinstall from disk(Gold Version). Save files are going to work flawlessly, and you get better visuals at still locked 60fps.*
Some quick comparisons from the Demo area:
Among other things, higher resolution (appreciable but not noticeable in these Gifs), much better textures (night and day literally), better alpha effects, better ray tracing (not shown in these Gifs).. they fucked up.
*Unfortunately Gold Version is still 1.00, so the higher resolution/better IQ seen in the Demo doesn't apply to the disc version, as it suffers from the original IQ issues like moire and at times aliasing.
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I've found most of those 1.00 IQ issues greatly reduced/disappeared by simply turning off Lens Distortion and CA. I'd leave them on because I like them, but not sure they work correctly on 1.00 as it would seem they could produce some kind pixelation at times. No idea what resolution it runs at, but 1.00 on Resolution Mode looks close if not genuine native 4K image to me.
I tried it out on my Pro, resolution, RT, hair strands, HFR are all on and it doesnt look like yours. Especially Dr Salvador.
The clothes on the floor actually swap model to a very low rez texture even in demo after picking up the key.
I have noticed though if you turn off HFR in options and change between framerate and resolution mode you can see the trees and other scenery change in the background (must be a completed save), like it used to on base PS5.
I also feel like HFR could be the only setting using PSSR. Because fidelity and performance with HFR off both look slightly different in the main menu. Whereas HFR on and switching between performance and resolution don't change the image at all.
HFR On - Resolution/Performance
HFR Off - Resolution
HFR Off - Performance
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Lagspike_exe
Member
IG removed sharpening filter from those games when implementing PSSR. The equivalent would be increasing sharpness on your TV.
Kerotan
Member
He just didn't want all the 30th anniversary peeps getting FOMO!
dreamstation
Member
I checked that out yesterday. Can't have V Sync and Frame Gen enabled together or it has terrible input lag. What setting did you turn off?
Skifi28
Member
Just vsync on and frame-gen off. I was happy with the locked 60 performance so I didn't test 120hz mode.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Yes with Spiderman but no with Alan Wake 2 ...at least not in the Fidelity mode which is what I've tested...it's definitely sharper
Lagspike_exe
Member
Alan Wake seems to be one of the worst PSSR implementations. It's also running at a very low internal resolution as well.
Tarnpanzer
Member
Some comparisons for Dying Light 2:
Lagspike_exe
Member
After some more testing of BLOPS6 in Quality mode, it does look great. I noticed that particle details are much better vs. vanilla PS5.
However, there is weird aliasing on specular highlights and various white noise that happens, like the GPU is overheating or something. It's probably a PSSR bug that has to be patched.
It looks like this:
However, there is weird aliasing on specular highlights and various white noise that happens, like the GPU is overheating or something. It's probably a PSSR bug that has to be patched.
It looks like this:
Vick
Gold Member
Man, this is wonderful news, thank you so much for sharing. So the highest graphics settings are indeed accessible in some way!
That makes a potential patch extremely easy, they'd just have to allow PSSR/Pro settings with HFR off. For a total confirmation could you please test those textures again with HFR off, as I'm on 1.00 right now?
And speaking of which, man.. I totally forgot those launch version rain effects.
They do create an interesting mood I guess, but those cartoon 2D droplets following the player.. what the hell where they thinking. lol
Gets better as the weather gets worse and droplets smaller, but still updated version is one massive improvement.
Edit:
So while downloading all the updates again I tried on my base PS5, and managed to get the higher settings! Not sure how exactly, I just continuously switched between Performance and Resolution until at some point those trees in background started changing and I saw the houses looking much sharper, started a new game and man, it looks STUNNING! Also runs well and it's a base PS5 so not sure what the hell they did.
So Patch 1.4 made even base PS5 version better, assuming you don't get the glitch.
So it was just a goddamn bug, and I did two whole goddamn playthroughs with those awful lower settings because of this crap..
rofif
buddy make sure you're actually really in Resolution mode by doing that quick test with Salvador, to not risk ruining further your run in case. Should take a few minutes at most to get to his close up, but there's also another quicker way to tell; when you're in the Hunter's Lodge at very start of the game and examine the keyhole, when the camera switches to a close up of the hole there's a white piece of cloth on the left that looks like crap with the glitch, and super high-res in the proper Resolution mode.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Sorry to hear you got the stupid glitch!Man, this is wonderful news, thank you so much for sharing. So the highest graphics settings are indeed accessible in some way!
That makes a potential patch extremely easy, they'd just have to allow PSSR/Pro settings with HFR off. For a total confirmation could you please test those textures again with HFR off, as I'm on 1.00 right now?
And speaking of which, man.. I totally forgot those launch version rain effects.
They do create an interesting mood I guess, but those cartoon 2D droplets following the player.. what the hell where they thinking. lol
Gets better as the weather gets worse and droplets smaller, but still updated version is one massive improvement.
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So while downloading all the updates again I tried on my base PS5, and managed to get the higher settings! Not sure how exactly, I just continuously switched between Performance and Resolution until at some point those trees in background started changing and I saw the houses looking much sharper, started a new game and man, it looks STUNNING! Also runs well and it's a base PS5 so not sure what the hell they did.
So Patch 1.4 made even base PS5 version better, assuming you don't get the glitch.
So it was just a goddamn bug, and I did two whole goddamn playthroughs with those awful lower settings because of this crap..
Thanks a lot for the tip!!! Awesome research as always
I've quickly started the game and this is how the cloth looks. (RES mode, Hair ON, RT ON, .PNG, imgBB)
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It's just the game. It exists on PC at exactly the same points but much less pronounced as the particles are smaller. Hopefully they will patch it
Vick
Gold Member
For real man.. and got it on base PS5 as well! I believe it's probably the first Mode Selection when first booting the game not working properly, and since I've never switched back and forth game was stuck in that awful mode despite saying "RESOLUTION" in the option menu, greyed out because you can't change while in-game.
Oh well, was going to do many more runs anyway, just now my jaw is on the floor while playing..
Eh, not really. Awful research in fact, I should have done more tests.
But glitch aside something else is up, as
FUBARx89
noticed. HFR On Framerate and Resolution shouldn't look and run identical as they do, imo.Yep, that's the glorious Resolution Mode.I've quickly started the game and this is how the cloth looks. (RES mode, Hair ON, RT ON, .PNG, imgBB)
And if that cloth isn't impressive (and it really isn't) is because you haven't seen what I used to get in comparison. lol
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Giallo Corsa
Member
For real man.. and got it on base PS5 as well! I believe it's probably the first Mode Selection when first booting the game not working properly, and since I've never switched back and forth game was stuck in that awful mode. Oh well, was going to do many more runs anyway, just now my jaw is on the floor while playing..
Eh, not really. Awful research in fact, I should have done more tests.
But glitch aside something else is up, as
Yep, that's the glorious Resolution Mode.
And if that cloth isn't impressive (and it really isn't) is because you haven't seen what I used to get in comparison. lol
OK, so, I'm confused now, what to do as to use the "proper" settings/not having the game glitch out ?
I ain't gonna start doing tests, I'm too tired today
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Vick
Gold Member
When you first boot the game, select what you want but then make sure to switch back and forth between Modes.OK, so, what to do as to use the "proper" settings/not having the game glitch out ?
I ain't gonna start doing tests, I'm too tired today
Not 100% sure that's what really caused the glitch but since it happened on both my Pro and Base PS5 that first selection has to be related.
What is 100% sure however, thanks to
FUBARx89
, is that switching back and forth in the post-game Menu solved the glitch on both consoles.
ShakenG
Member
So if ive got this right. The game might be displaying the incorrect graphic setting if you boot the game for the 1st time and leave it on default?When you first boot the game, select what you want but then make sure to switch back and forth between Modes.
Not 100% sure that's what really caused the glitch but since it happened on both my Pro and Base PS5 that first selection has to be related.
What is 100% sure however, thanks to
Switching it fixes it?
FUBARx89
Member
Sure.
Resolution.
Frame rate.
Bonus picture of the changed textures when picking key up (Note. This only happen with ray tracing on despite resolution, frame rate or HFR. The same happens on demo & base PS5. Most notable example I can think of is seperate ways in Mendez house. A chest of draws swaps it's texture infront of you when opening and I always found it very jarring.)
The amount of times I've heard "This is not good" is unreal when trying to replicate your textute problems lol.
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King Dazzar
Member
So we wiggle waggle the toggle between res and perf a few times, then we're good to go with Resolution, RT & Hair On , with HFR off? Do we need to do the toggle dance every time we boot up? lol I'm having a surreal day.
King Dazzar
Member
OK, so I've just been testing this. For me switching between HFR on and off, fixed it and got the change to show as illustrated by
FUBARx89
in the menu video. And it now stays fixed in full resolution mode between boots too from closing down the game. Its a big improvement over base PS5 now. Just one observation. In some dense fog areas, it appeared to be dropping frames without VRR when panning, so it does require VRR in resolution mode now. And that was regardless of RT and Hair on or off.
Now running Resolution with RT and hair with VRR (HFR off for me) and its superb.
Thanks
FUBARx89
for the fix and
Vick
for highlighting issue.
FUBARx89
in the menu video. And it now stays fixed in full resolution mode between boots too from closing down the game. Its a big improvement over base PS5 now. Just one observation. In some dense fog areas, it appeared to be dropping frames without VRR when panning, so it does require VRR in resolution mode now. And that was regardless of RT and Hair on or off. Now running Resolution with RT and hair with VRR (HFR off for me) and its superb.
Thanks
FUBARx89
for the fix and
Vick
for highlighting issue.
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Giallo Corsa
Member
Man, I still don't get it to be honest, also, I can't see the differences the lads are talking about in the comparison pics - then again I'm on my phone but...
King Dazzar
Member
Hopefully what I've just posted helps. You'll see the menu back ground video change when its working properly when flicking between Resolution and Performance modes. To get that to happen, I had to switch between HFR on and off.
King Dazzar
Member
Some findings from my testing with Spider Man 2 last night for two hours, switching between all modes, VRR on/off etc etc. In short I agree with most of DF's findings. However my final settings do differ.
VRR uncapped and 120hz set to Auto. Fidelity Pro, Key LS: On, RT reflections: Medium, RTAO: Off. The reason I dont run with all RT features maxed (which you can do and DF recommends). Is that by turning down RT reflections and RTAO to off. I get a noticeable, improvement to FPS which makes the game nicer in motion. And also it appears to be subtly increasing the DRS too. Which gives it that touch more fidelity.
VRR uncapped and 120hz set to Auto. Fidelity Pro, Key LS: On, RT reflections: Medium, RTAO: Off. The reason I dont run with all RT features maxed (which you can do and DF recommends). Is that by turning down RT reflections and RTAO to off. I get a noticeable, improvement to FPS which makes the game nicer in motion. And also it appears to be subtly increasing the DRS too. Which gives it that touch more fidelity.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
You can always just not buy their products.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Thanks for sharing your Pro impressions on it. I was not impressed with the frame gen when they added it in and without it there were constant frame drops below 60 fps during cut-scenes, and most importantly during boss battles and intense fights. Might give it another shot, but it's currently way low on my list of priorities.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
lol this is why I escaped pc gaming. I kept switching back and forth and constantly checking if my settings kept saving.
FUBARx89
Member
I can't say that I had to turn off HFR to get the graphics to work properly. I couldn't replicate Vicks problem, but it does allow you to see the differences in the main menu if you turn it off and switch between them.
I think HFR could just be the default pro graphical setting with PSSR as nothing really changes if you switch between the two with HFR on and choosing resolution or framerate could be the game prioritises whichever one you chose if it needs too.
I believe DF (John specifically) are doing a look at both RE8 and 4. So we shall see when they release it.
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King Dazzar
Member
No, for me it was on and off just to get the resolution settings to apply correctly. I'm leaving it off solely as my own preference to keep frames more consistent.
The Pweep
Neo Member
Same for me lol it was a sicknesslol this is why I escaped pc gaming. I kept switching back and forth and constantly checking if my settings kept saving.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
when I was younger, this OCD was also about cables, connections and insides of the pc. Then later on, about control panel settings and game settings most of time.
Xbox 360 cured me from most of this. ps4 too. Now, thankfully, I feel fully "cured". Even on ps5 pro with many modes, I don't switch back and forth. We have vick and df for that
Kaiserstark
Member
So Elden Ring on Quality Mode with Raytracing is running with 10-15 more frames on the Pro.
Honestly it would be great to see From Software making a patch for this game because with a few tweaks, they could probably run the game close to a 60fps lock.
Honestly it would be great to see From Software making a patch for this game because with a few tweaks, they could probably run the game close to a 60fps lock.
Vick
Gold Member
Thanks man. This is really bizarre, so when (even with HFR off) you select Framerate the graphic settings don't change from Resolution? Basically you just don't get these PS4-like settings at all?
When I've been stuck with them on Resolution mode on both PS5 and Pro, and only switching Modes solved it?
Not on my end, once working properly they stay at higher settings.
But I do from time to time check textures resolutions around me in fear it might happen again. lol
Glad to hear it's now working properly, and totally agree, it is superb.OK, so I've just been testing this. For me switching between HFR on and off, fixed it and got the change to show as illustrated by
Now running Resolution with RT and hair with VRR (HFR off for me) and its superb.
Thanks
As for the drops, haven't notice a single one so far aside from that village sequence with heavy rain and wind and fog (that dropped below 40fps on base PS5 with same settings), where it looks like it drops some frames when panning, but that aside smooth as butter otherwise for the entire thing, day village, lake exploration on boat with the storm, all of it solid as rock. Was really impressed by that open Castle section with the armored Gigante unleashing all hell with like hundreds of fire particles and destruction everywhere and open view on miles of terrain all around and many enemies and it all was completely locked and always above 60fps for the entire sequence no matter what.
So damn satisfied with this now. Wish they'd re-release the game physically in some kind of edition with this code on disc.
King Dazzar
Member
Yeah this was part of chapter 1, with no action going on. I had to slowly 360 pan and it would have a minor stutter/frame skip when panning past a specific fog heavy bit. It was as though it was just momentarily dropping a frame or two below 60fps. Fully cured by enabling VRR though.
Good to know its great throughout.