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Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon Review Thread
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JeTmAn81
Member
I think I might have to pick this up. I've been interested in an XL, the Giant Bomb Quick Look piqued my interest in Luigi, and I definitely would like to get Art Academy from the free promotion. I also think I can get at least $160 from selling my current 3DS (Black system in good shape with all 20 Ambassador games plus Link's Awakening, Four Swords, Pushmo, Metroid II and the DS Art Academy). If any Gaffers are interested in buying my old system (with those games) off me at that price, feel free to send me a PM.
Why are people so against negative reviews? Not everyone can like a game -- attacking people's reasons for it is asinine unless you can actually find malice in it.
There is a difference between criticism and attacks. That is to say, this isn't directed at everyone who disagrees with Polygon's review.
There is a difference between criticism and attacks. That is to say, this isn't directed at everyone who disagrees with Polygon's review.
Speaking for myself personally, I found the content of the review poor and lacking. Joystiq did a much better job at articulating the negatives.
It's isn't the negativity people are attacking but the inaccuracy. If a reviewer wants to criticise an aspect of a game he should make sure facts are correct and opinions are well-observed, insightful and constructive.
we go back some years man don't turn on me like that
The perfect Dark
Banned
KojiKnight
Member
Didn't say it was great or that I'd be happy getting C's, but to call it a bad review is pretty glass half empty view on life.
WrenchNinja
Member
You guys are really trying to outdo Zelda and Uncharted fans huh
I feel like, in this case, it's more about Polygon than the score.
Polygon's closing complaint reminds me of Edge's infamous review of Doom. Surprised no one has mentioned it yet.
Edge said:
Well, I'm an ass. In my defence, I actually did a search for "Doom" in the thread before posting.
He thought the ghosts lost their personalities.
That settles it. Let's dock points for that ridiculous reason!
well there were more complaints in the review...
and what's with this "docking points" business?
I can remember that being raised as a concern plenty of times over the last few years on this site, and it's definitely disappointing to me.
Why is it a ridiculous reason? The one off puzzle ghosts were the best part of the original.
Doctor Decimate
Member
well, good to see that it's longer as opposed to shorter i suppose.
The overarching oddity in Polygon's review which really stands out to me is how it portrays the game as being action-heavy, at the expense of characterization and story elements, whereas everything I know about the game suggests the story has been eschewed in favour of a greater focus on exploration and puzzle-solving, rather than getting to the next ghost. It's a bit strange. Kind of like he's missing the point... but I don't want to say that, per se, since the "point" of a game is open to interpretation.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
So that's what it was referencing? God, my indifference to Edge continues.
TheNatural
My Member!
Has there every been a bad review score that's never been criticized for 'inaccuracy'?
Whether the person has a different feel for the game than you, or could have used better words, complaining about someone's opinion in game taste is tired.
The first Luigi's Mansion was great, I stayed up all night when I got my Gamecube to beat it, and it only got a 7 on IGN and some other sites as I recall. It didn't effect my enjoyment of the game a bit.
Kamek Koopa
Member
Technically they were the only clever puzzles of the original, because the rest of the game mechanics and points were repetitive and quite limited. So if you keep in mind that Dark Moon is a much more puzzle-oriented installment (and a significantly better designed game, at least what I have played until this moment), the loss of special ghosts isn't that bad.
Unlike some sequels that leave good things behind without compensating the loss (like, for instance, Paper Mario Sticker Star), Luigi's Mansion 2 does, and pretty well.
Okay, fair enough sounds great. So the personality comes through the mansions themselves rather than the ghosts?
Also good to hear it's better than that tedious slog Sticker Star.
That's what a review is. The reviewer judges the game on how much they liked and disliked certain elements as well as the game as a whole. It's an opinion piece -- one you are free to disagree with. It just gets ridiculous when people attack the reviewer, as if everyone should like the game they like.
To him the lack of those portrait ghosts -- or an equal replacement -- hurt the game.
MrCookiepants
Member
Man, this game looks so damn charming. Can't see myself not loving it. Great year for the 3DS so far.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Which game???
Doctor Decimate
Member
1) if you think that's a "ghetto", you're missing out on a lot of games.
2) it's not. at all. are you confusing this with God of War and Gears of War reviews lol
Gonzo The Great
Banned
6.5 from Gamespot because the game is supposedly too hard/frustrating.
http://www.gamespot.com/luigis-mansi...eview-6405758/
At least they're consistent...
Steel Diver
Gamespot Score: 4.5
GameRankings Average: 61.75%
Difference: -16.75%
Pokemon Black 2
Gamespot Score: 6.5
GameRankings Average: 81.40%
Difference: -16.40%
Mario Tennis Open
Gamespot Score: 5.5
GameRankings Average: 69.24%
Difference: -14.24%
Pokemon Rumble Blast
Gamespot Score: 4.5
GameRankings Average: 57.85%
Difference: -12.85%
Super Mario 3D Land
Gamespot Score: 8.0
GameRankings Average: 90.19%
Difference: -10.19%
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Gamespot Score: 8.5
GameRankings Average: 94.01%
Difference: -9.01%
New Super Mario bros. 2
Gamespot Score: 7.0
GameRankings Average: 78.59%
Difference: -8.59%
Star Fox 64 3D
Gamespot Score: 7.5
GameRankings: 82.16%
Difference: -7.16%
Pilotwings Resort
Gamespot Score: 6.5
GameRankings: 71.94%
Difference: -6.94%
Pushmo
Gamespot Score: 8.5
GameRankings Average: 91.57%
Difference: -6.57%
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Gamespot Score: 8.5
GameRankings Average: 91.42%
Difference: -6.42%
Tetris Axis
Gamespot Score: 7.0
GameRankings Average: 76.33%
Difference: -6.33%
Mario Kart 7
Gamespot Score: 8.0
GameRankings Average: 85.07%
Difference: -5.07%
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Gamespot Score: 8.0
GameRankings Average: 84.55%
Difference: -4.55%
Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog and New Friends
Gamespot Score: 7.5
GameRankings Average: 74.40%
Difference: +0.60%
http://www.gamespot.com/luigis-mansi...eview-6405758/
At least they're consistent...
Steel Diver
Gamespot Score: 4.5
GameRankings Average: 61.75%
Difference: -16.75%
Pokemon Black 2
Gamespot Score: 6.5
GameRankings Average: 81.40%
Difference: -16.40%
Mario Tennis Open
Gamespot Score: 5.5
GameRankings Average: 69.24%
Difference: -14.24%
Pokemon Rumble Blast
Gamespot Score: 4.5
GameRankings Average: 57.85%
Difference: -12.85%
Super Mario 3D Land
Gamespot Score: 8.0
GameRankings Average: 90.19%
Difference: -10.19%
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Gamespot Score: 8.5
GameRankings Average: 94.01%
Difference: -9.01%
New Super Mario bros. 2
Gamespot Score: 7.0
GameRankings Average: 78.59%
Difference: -8.59%
Star Fox 64 3D
Gamespot Score: 7.5
GameRankings: 82.16%
Difference: -7.16%
Pilotwings Resort
Gamespot Score: 6.5
GameRankings: 71.94%
Difference: -6.94%
Pushmo
Gamespot Score: 8.5
GameRankings Average: 91.57%
Difference: -6.57%
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Gamespot Score: 8.5
GameRankings Average: 91.42%
Difference: -6.42%
Tetris Axis
Gamespot Score: 7.0
GameRankings Average: 76.33%
Difference: -6.33%
Mario Kart 7
Gamespot Score: 8.0
GameRankings Average: 85.07%
Difference: -5.07%
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Gamespot Score: 8.0
GameRankings Average: 84.55%
Difference: -4.55%
Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog and New Friends
Gamespot Score: 7.5
GameRankings Average: 74.40%
Difference: +0.60%
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Seems harsh for what she points out as negatives.
I don't have a problem with the few reviews I have seen from her though except her saying the Crash Course minigame in Nintendoland was one of the worst because you had to blow in the Gamepad to move platforms(it's optional).
MrCookiepants
Member
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Ninja Scooter
Member
i'm just kidding around, i don't care about reviews with nintendo games, i buy whatever i want regardless. it's just a lot of nintendo games have been scoring in this area lately. NSMB2, NSMBU, Paper Mario, Nintendo Land, MK7, Kid Icarus, Style Savvy, Art Academy, etc etc. 3 of those games in particular would've been GOTY if released by anyone other than nintendo.
Damn lol. Sounds like she sucked at the game and that frustration poured into the review.
Velcro Fly
Member
Review complains about single analog controls and no mid mission checkpoints. How does someone who started gaming this gen get to write reviews for GameSpot? It's like she's never played a game with no analog and no constant checkpoint hand holding. This isn't the first game in the history of gaming where you have to redo parts if you die. I can't even imagine how that would be a complaint that a Nintendo game in 2013 is too hard.
Also if the puzzles were too hard in this game, I'd love to watch her play Sticker Star for the first time to see her rage at some of those puzzles which can only fit into the "no idea how you are supposed to know this the first time you play the game" category.
Also if the puzzles were too hard in this game, I'd love to watch her play Sticker Star for the first time to see her rage at some of those puzzles which can only fit into the "no idea how you are supposed to know this the first time you play the game" category.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
When something smells of Doritos, sometimes you have to investigate.
you can calculate that in like a minute in an excel sheet, Metacritic makes it super easy.
http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamespot?filter=games
Ninja Scooter
Member
or maybe people should understand that opinions are sort of a thing and not get so worked up about this.
I can't wait to download and play this game even though I've got quite the backlog on my 3ds. Reviews are interesting and all but I've long past the point of actually using them to make purchasing decisions aside from games with atrocious aspects that aren't known prior to the reviews.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Or maybe people should question why their opinion is always the outlier.
Doctor Decimate
Member
oh look, it's carolyn. hooray.
i'd also like to point out how fucking garbage that SM3DL review is. one of the most brilliant platformers i've ever played, given an 8 because of the 3D, Street Pass, and gyrometer stuff apparently not being "fully realized".
Darryl said:
i'd say that's a lack of high-profile releases lately more than anything else. and Kid Icarus has an 85 on Gamerankings for what it's worth.
yea, just shut up guys. no need to question anything ever.