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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
And it literally ends with this...
As a sequel in a spectacular series, Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is both blessed and cursed. Its story of two Spider-Men is a great time and a Spidey fan’s dream to play through as comic book pages are brought to life, elegantly walking the tightrope between light humour and heavier themes. Meanwhile, Insomniac refines a successful formula of combat and web-swinging without revolutionising either in major ways, making them comfy and familiar with just enough new tweaks and abilities to elevate them to fun new heights. The part that feels like it actually needed a radical rethinking is the open world of New York City, which has been made bigger but not better, with an exhausting checklist of mostly repetitious side activities. But it’s safe to call this another thrilling Spider-Man adventure that delivers Insomniac's best tale yet, and despite its open world falling short, it's a reliably fun superhero power trip. And, you know what? Screw it. It really did make me feel like Spider-Man, too.
It does enough better than before to warrant at least a matching score. The inconsistency is in the other direction.
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So then, in terms of its metacritic score, it should be more in line with matching the scores of the previous entries, which would be in the 85-87 range. 89, really, if you're counting story improvements and combat "refinements" enough to bump the score.
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
We really need an 'eyeroll' reaction
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
If that's what you're going with, sure. Reviewers disagree, and based on what I've seen, I have no reason to contest. If it's a better game than before, then it deserves to be higher.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Open Critic didn’t budge one bit and from what I see around here that’s the new standard.
Jayjayhd34
Member
Indiewire brought down to 90
X-Wing
Member
Canceling my pre-order right now.
Gudji
Member
New Stevivor website?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Insomniac devs following the Metacritic right now:
I doubt they care about it as much as forums and twitter.
graywolf323
Member
Indiewire didn’t even score it, this is on Metacritic for creating a score out of nowhereNew Stevivor website?
Fabieter
Member
Are bonus payments not a thing anymore? Could swear some pubs paying that for being 90+. Would be a shame for insomniac to not getting that by one point just because some click bait reviews.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The last time someone notable talked about it was all the way back in 2012 regarding Fallout: New Vegas.
Meta-scores don't have the kind of sway they did. Sony are probably more interested in SM2's pre-order and sales numbers over it losing a few meta points.
mejin
Member
Thirty7ven
Banned
New Stevivor website?
They didn’t even give it a score.
Mr Moose
Member
They made it up. Well done, Metacritic.
Fabieter
Member
Imo being about 90+ pushes your games sales performance. Would love see actual numbers to back me up with that.
I talked to a shitton of casuals around the release of bg3 and the only reason they bought the game was the must play badge.
Fabieter
Member
I did read their review and it was like a 9. What's the problem with sony, Mr metacritic.
mejin
Member
Thirty7ven
Banned
Revolutionary
Member
Gotta love being a gamer in NYC
Thirty7ven
Banned
Indiwire’s review:
“Sony’s Brilliant Video Game Sequel Understands Spidey Better Than the MCU Ever Has”
“so intelligently conceived and absurdly well-polished that it often seems revolutionary just by dint of how spectacular it feels to play, this blockbuster follow-up to 2018’s “Spider-Man” — and 2020’s Miles Morales-centered spinoff — soars above so much of its competition because of how relentlessly it confronts you with the fact that virtually no one could be Spider-Man. Or maybe it’s because the game pretty much allows you to fly around New York from the moment it starts. That’s pretty cool, too.”
“this massive steel playground is also home to one of the most purely enjoyable open-world games ever made”
“ Thanks to the fluidity of the controls, the addictiveness of the sidequests, and the ecstasy of the various combat and traversal mechanics that “Spider-Man 2” either refines or introduces into the franchise, anything you actually choose to do as Spider-Man comes at the temporary expense of 10 other things you might wish you were doing at the same time.”
“ The bliss of actually wanting to do everything available to you perfectly aligns with the moral compass of a superhero who accepts his privilege as an obligation.”
“ It’s a game about the agonies of striking the right work/life balance, and it’s such an addictive time-suck that Spider-Man’s problem soon becomes your own.”
“ While that balance continues to defy what’s possible in even a mega-budgeted AAA game like this one, Insomniac manages to achieve it in virtually every other regard. Combat is a treat from start to finish”
“ Everything blends together with a rare sense of purpose”
“ A quantum leap forward for its franchise”
Metacritic employee that brings a Starfield t shirt to work “Sounds like an 83… at best…”
“Sony’s Brilliant Video Game Sequel Understands Spidey Better Than the MCU Ever Has”
“so intelligently conceived and absurdly well-polished that it often seems revolutionary just by dint of how spectacular it feels to play, this blockbuster follow-up to 2018’s “Spider-Man” — and 2020’s Miles Morales-centered spinoff — soars above so much of its competition because of how relentlessly it confronts you with the fact that virtually no one could be Spider-Man. Or maybe it’s because the game pretty much allows you to fly around New York from the moment it starts. That’s pretty cool, too.”
“this massive steel playground is also home to one of the most purely enjoyable open-world games ever made”
“ Thanks to the fluidity of the controls, the addictiveness of the sidequests, and the ecstasy of the various combat and traversal mechanics that “Spider-Man 2” either refines or introduces into the franchise, anything you actually choose to do as Spider-Man comes at the temporary expense of 10 other things you might wish you were doing at the same time.”
“ The bliss of actually wanting to do everything available to you perfectly aligns with the moral compass of a superhero who accepts his privilege as an obligation.”
“ It’s a game about the agonies of striking the right work/life balance, and it’s such an addictive time-suck that Spider-Man’s problem soon becomes your own.”
“ While that balance continues to defy what’s possible in even a mega-budgeted AAA game like this one, Insomniac manages to achieve it in virtually every other regard. Combat is a treat from start to finish”
“ Everything blends together with a rare sense of purpose”
“ A quantum leap forward for its franchise”
Metacritic employee that brings a Starfield t shirt to work “Sounds like an 83… at best…”
R6Rider
Gold Member
Did Spider-Man himself deliver this?Gotta love being a gamer in NYC
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
this is outrageous lol
here is an idea: if they are not giving it a score, dont include them in your aggregate SCORE?!?!
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Agent_Nobody
Member
That is just dumb. Are they going to start number rating ZeroPunctuation/Yahtzee reviews now too?
Sleepwalker
Member
Thirty7ven
Banned
Basically renders Metacritic useless if they are allowing employees to arbitrarily decide which scores to give.
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TalentBurke
Member
Where in NYC? I'll go pick up a copy todayGotta love being a gamer in NYC
Revolutionary
Member
bitbydeath
Member
Just being able to switch between multiple characters at anytime GTA style is an instant 5-10 point bonus for me. More games should be doing this, and I hope we get a Spider-Gwen short next, and all three appearing in Spider-Man 3!
Eiknarf
Banned
didnt GTA V do that?
bitbydeath
Member
Yep, that’s why I said GTA style.
They don't need it when half of them have xbox in the name and give 10/10.
TheGodfather07
Member
Metacritic is garbage. One minute a game can have a must play tag and a few reviews later it isn't must play anymore! So stupid! They give more weight to certain outlets, which is bullshit and now they give scores to reviews with no scores.
Eiknarf
Banned
But at the end of the day, the Metacritic final average is always very similar to the OpenCritic average
Thirty7ven
Banned
Regardless fact is Open Critic isn’t making up scores. That’s just a line you don’t cross.
Topher
Identifies as young
Good catch. I didn't realize they did that shit. Absurd.
sendit
Member
I don't know whats worse. Developers charging for early access (which everyone has access to) versus scumbags enabling illegal activity by breaking street date for a physical release.Gotta love being a gamer in NYC
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Topher
Identifies as young
Lokaum D+
Member
skit_data
Member
I'm gonna feel a bit sorry for Insomniac if it drops to 89, but not very sorry.
Why?
Because it's laughably ridiculous that all 9/10 reviews will somehow contribute to it creeping down to a 90 score.
I'm still amazed some games actually get scores over 90 at all when there are like 100+ reviews, that's a crazy consistency of really high review scores and it's pretty much just splitting hairs in terms of overall perception of the game.
Why?
Because it's laughably ridiculous that all 9/10 reviews will somehow contribute to it creeping down to a 90 score.
I'm still amazed some games actually get scores over 90 at all when there are like 100+ reviews, that's a crazy consistency of really high review scores and it's pretty much just splitting hairs in terms of overall perception of the game.
MistBreeze
Member
I was so into metacritic +90 long ago but know not so much
For me miles morales was vastly superior to spider man 1
Better combat - better pacing - better bosses
But its meta score lower
For me miles morales was vastly superior to spider man 1
Better combat - better pacing - better bosses
But its meta score lower
Gamerguy84
Member
Yea F metacritic. Haven't been a fan of this shit for a while. Having just learned an employee can slap on a review I'm less of a fan.
I'm pre ordered and ready to go so that's the most important thing to me.
I'm pre ordered and ready to go so that's the most important thing to me.