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Media Create Sales 6 Mar ~ 12 Mar
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PhoenixDark
Banned
Does Nintendo make software forecasts as well? I'd love to see what they originally thought Animal Crossing and Brain Training would do.
jarrod said:
It already exists:
DS
http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/worldtotals.php?name=&console=DS&publisher=&sort=Total
Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Nintendogs DS Nintendo 1.18 1.89 1.97 5.04
Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 1.21 1.24 1.02 3.47
Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 0.93 1.54 0.95 3.42
Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 2.17 0.45 0.00 2.62
Wario Ware Touched DS Nintendo 0.98 0.45 0.38 1.81
Brain Training DS Nintendo 1.80 0.00 0.00 1.80
Brain Training 2 DS Nintendo 1.54 0.00 0.00 1.54
Brain Flex DS Nintendo 1.14 0.00 0.00 1.14
PSP
http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PSP&publisher=&sort=Total
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories PSP Take 2 0.00 0.82 0.85 1.67
A month or two out of date now though...
Indeed... Tamagotchi DS should be up there now. I'd have thought Ridge Racer PSP had passed a million worldwide though?ioi said:It already exists:
DS
http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/worldtotals.php?name=&console=DS&publisher=&sort=Total
Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Nintendogs DS Nintendo 1.18 1.89 1.97 5.04
Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 1.21 1.24 1.02 3.47
Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 0.93 1.54 0.95 3.42
Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 2.17 0.45 0.00 2.62
Wario Ware Touched DS Nintendo 0.98 0.45 0.38 1.81
Brain Training DS Nintendo 1.80 0.00 0.00 1.80
Brain Training 2 DS Nintendo 1.54 0.00 0.00 1.54
Brain Flex DS Nintendo 1.14 0.00 0.00 1.14
PSP
http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PSP&publisher=&sort=Total
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories PSP Take 2 0.00 0.82 0.85 1.67
A month or two out of date now though...
winston_pr
Member
Monorojo said:
To his defense, a competitor's surge (especially if supported with lots of marketing communication) can actually boost the whole category of a product (ie handhelds in our case). This is classic marketing theory - competition is not only the zero-sum game of marketshare.
Also imagewise in Japan it seems that all of a sudden it is "ok" to bring out a handheld on the train (I see this *a lot* more than I used to - in all age groups, mostly DSs (old style) but including some white PSPs...)
Children of Mana is not a bomb; if it ends up with only around 200k sales in Japan, that is still a success. I would consider any game that has sold 200k in only region to have achieved a successful number of sales; note that while they are not truly outstanding numbers, and no one will confuse the game for a blockbuster game of BT/AC levels, they're still good, solid numbers.
The main reason disappointment is creeping in is because, while it is a success, I think there's a very justified train of thought that it could have and should have been a bigger success than what it's turning out to be. I'd say there are two things which hurt its sales potential: first, that it wound up being a different sort of game than what most had expected it to be (a dungeon crawler versus a standard Mana game); and second, the DSL shortages. If everyone who had lined up to buy a DSL on DSL/CoM launch day had succeeded in being able to get one -- or, at the very least, a substantial percentage of those who had done so -- I think it's certain that CoM would've launched far, far higher than it did.
It's unfortunate that the latter factor depressed the game's launch sales and ultimately limited its lifetime selling potential... and it's unfortunate that the game won't sell (in Japan) what many of us hoped it would (though yes, there is still the possibility, though faint, that it could demonstrate long legs and sell more than we're expecting right now). Regardless, though, 200k is still a success. Once worldwide figures get added in, Square Enix will likely be quite happy.
The main reason disappointment is creeping in is because, while it is a success, I think there's a very justified train of thought that it could have and should have been a bigger success than what it's turning out to be. I'd say there are two things which hurt its sales potential: first, that it wound up being a different sort of game than what most had expected it to be (a dungeon crawler versus a standard Mana game); and second, the DSL shortages. If everyone who had lined up to buy a DSL on DSL/CoM launch day had succeeded in being able to get one -- or, at the very least, a substantial percentage of those who had done so -- I think it's certain that CoM would've launched far, far higher than it did.
It's unfortunate that the latter factor depressed the game's launch sales and ultimately limited its lifetime selling potential... and it's unfortunate that the game won't sell (in Japan) what many of us hoped it would (though yes, there is still the possibility, though faint, that it could demonstrate long legs and sell more than we're expecting right now). Regardless, though, 200k is still a success. Once worldwide figures get added in, Square Enix will likely be quite happy.
A Link to the Past said:Yeah, I forgot, not saying that it is definite fact that Children of Mana will show long legs is the same as saying it will have long legs, period.
I said that people are assuming it will not have long legs, ignoring reality. Yeah, remember when the exact same thing was said with Slime MoriMori 2? No? Well, typically, Tools don't like to acknowledge reality.
Except that it dropped 80% in sales this week. I'll remember this post.
A Link to the Past
Banned
jett said:Except that it dropped 80% in sales this week. I'll remember this post.
I predicted AoE will be great. I can make whatever crackpot theory I want to!
If I had the skills, I'd make a picture of the male character in the GBA Mario Tennis with a 20/20 stat in Side Spin and stick Monorojo's name on it. And/or an animated GIF involving the screw-spinning minigame.
He really makes me laugh every time, though. Thanks, man.
Children of Mana's performance is disheartening, but I'm guessing it has something to do with a lack of faith from the public in the series after they saw how Sword of Mana turned out. In that case, I can't blame them. It was better off on the GB classic.
He really makes me laugh every time, though. Thanks, man.
AC, Brain Age 2, English Training, Brain Age - yeah, just wow.neo2046 said:
Children of Mana's performance is disheartening, but I'm guessing it has something to do with a lack of faith from the public in the series after they saw how Sword of Mana turned out. In that case, I can't blame them. It was better off on the GB classic.
Fitting tastes is the whole point. I don't care about realistic sports titles, racing, stealth action, or FPS games that rely almost completely on multiplayer. Once you take all that away, the PSP has Lumines and that's about it.Monorojo said:
Kirby and Advance Wars are Nintendo games.LanceStern said:
...And Kirby didn't deserve 300k anyway. *runs*
HyperZone<3
Member
CoM is still the biggest "game" game to hit the DS in awhile, and with the sure to be huge DS sales coming in the next few weeks(DS lite actually becomes available) to help push DS software sales, I don't see why it shouldn't stick around on the charts for a bit longer.
And as the first Squeenix game to hit the DS in America, its going to kick some serious tail in the states, and Europe. Maybe it won't ever outsell Slimemorimori, but Squeenix can actually sell it outside of Japan, so its got that going for it.
And as the first Squeenix game to hit the DS in America, its going to kick some serious tail in the states, and Europe. Maybe it won't ever outsell Slimemorimori, but Squeenix can actually sell it outside of Japan, so its got that going for it.
neo2046
Member
http://www.m-create.com/jpn/s_ranking.html
DSL 89,790
DS 48,947
PSP 40,091
PS2 22,476
GBASP 4,235
GBM 3,020
GC 1,360
Xbox360 1,296
GBA 65
Xbox 63
DSL 89,790
DS 48,947
PSP 40,091
PS2 22,476
GBASP 4,235
GBM 3,020
GC 1,360
Xbox360 1,296
GBA 65
Xbox 63
thestopsign
Member
Do I have to say anything?
Viewtiful Darkness
Member
neo2046 said:
The next-gen battle is heating up in Japan
EmCeeGramr
Member
Are psp sales up? Wasnt it selling an average of 25,000 units weekly before?
Glad to see I.Q Mania and XI Colosseum make the Top 50. Barely made it, but it's looking more and more likely that this is the best we'll see many PSP games perform, no matter how good they are.
Monster Kingdom is still hanging on too; hopefully enough to secure an NA localization.
Top 50 System Breakdown:
DS -- 18 (note: 16 of these are in the Top 30...)
PS2 -- 14
PSP -- 12
GBA -- 5
GC -- 1
Monster Kingdom is still hanging on too; hopefully enough to secure an NA localization.
Top 50 System Breakdown:
DS -- 18 (note: 16 of these are in the Top 30...
)PS2 -- 14
PSP -- 12
GBA -- 5
GC -- 1
Frankfurter
Member
Probationsmack said:
They are about 3k down compared to last week.
Frankfurter
Member
Yamauchi said:
The next shipment probably arrived yesterday (Thursday). We'll be able to better judge if Nintendo is going to meet their shipping target (it was 450k btw. ^^) with the next MC charts (when we'll see how much units Nintendo was able to ship).
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Japan is the land of the handhelds. I don't even see the PS3 reversing that. Sheesh.
Probationsmack said:
Yes they are, and the primary reason? DS Lite.
No other reason, VP fell back a whole lot, yet PSP stays around the same....hmmm
BTW its pretty unfair to compare PSP this time last year vs this year. Last year PSP was riding the shortage from launch and the hype from launch.
Thbis time its riding just games alone and the amount of gamers brought in by the DS Lite.
Bearillusion
Banned
Getting punched in the head repeatedly. Momentum?
It's unfair? Then let me fix that for you and add the last four weeks of '04 to the first 10 weeks of '05 and add the last 4 weeks of '05 to the first 10 weeks of '06.Monorojo said:
14 weeks
'04-'05 - 1,018,728
'05-'06 - 906,791
As you said, the PSP had shortages at launch and it still sold ~112K more than the last 14 weeks.
[Monologic]But that was during the launch window where demand is going to be higher[/Monologic]Fuzzy said:It's unfair? Then let me fix that for you and add the last four weeks of '04 to the first 10 weeks of '05 and add the last 4 weeks of '05 to the first 10 weeks of '06.
14 weeks
'04-'05 - 1,018,728
'05-'06 - 906,791
As you said, the PSP had shortages at launch and it still sold ~112K more than the last 14 weeks.
Great Rumbler
Member
It's amazing how consistent sales of the regular DS have been. Four weeks ago it was 52K, three weeks ago it was about 47K, two weeks ago it was about 47K, last week it was about 49K, and then this week it came in at around 48K. It hasn't dropped a bit in the last month, even with the release of the DSL.
DS is the exception. As you poeple have informed me its the best selling system practically in the history of Japan. If you compare any system to DS its going to look horrible, be it PSP this far in, GBA, or PS2.
You are raising your expectations for what DS is doing, and thats unfair for PSP which is in it's own right doing VERY well when the majority of this board and media said it was dead in the water in Japan.
The simple fact is PSP is simply following trends, launch = huge sales and demand = ultra high, be it shortages or not.
Also the difference isnt that big(especially considering DS sales that December), PSP said to have lost almost all of its momentum from laucnh is barely underperforming to what it did last year.
It shows PSP has more strength than anything else.
Stop trying to spin this into a bad sign for PSP.
You are raising your expectations for what DS is doing, and thats unfair for PSP which is in it's own right doing VERY well when the majority of this board and media said it was dead in the water in Japan.
The simple fact is PSP is simply following trends, launch = huge sales and demand = ultra high, be it shortages or not.
Also the difference isnt that big(especially considering DS sales that December), PSP said to have lost almost all of its momentum from laucnh is barely underperforming to what it did last year.
It shows PSP has more strength than anything else.
Stop trying to spin this into a bad sign for PSP.
Fuzzy said:It's unfair? Then let me fix that for you and add the last four weeks of '04 to the first 10 weeks of '05 and add the last 4 weeks of '05 to the first 10 weeks of '06.
14 weeks
'04-'05 - 1,018,728
'05-'06 - 906,791
As you said, the PSP had shortages at launch and it still sold ~112K more than the last 14 weeks.
It is ok. PSP hardware sales are about to spike.