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Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2013 (May 13 - May 19)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Not saying that there aren't reasons for this sales, but those are bad sales for the 3DS. Don't see why we can't just tell like it is. Vita sales are also bad, because there are no games and 3rd party games are nowhere to be seen - doesn't change the fact that they are bad.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
We might even get it this reporting week depending on Famitsu's numbers.
StreetsAhead
Member
I'm telling you, it'll be a new model out around October with more RAM for Miiverse.
Well, here's its upcoming schedule for the next three weeks in which it is actually getting games.
Code:
05/23 Japan BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend (Arc System Works Best Selection)
Valhalla Knights 3
05/30 Japan Haiyore! Nyaruko-San: Nafushigatai Game no You na Mono
NextRev: Hisho Kentei Shiken
Suugaku Rikiou: Chuukyuu Naka-2-Level
Suugaku Rikiou: Joukyuu Naka-3-Level
Suugaku Rikiou: Shokyuu Naka-1-Level
06/20 Japan FIFA 13: World Class Soccer (EA Best Hits)
Kami Jigen Idol Neptune PP
Winning Post 7 2013metalslimer
Member
Exactly, we all know 3DS isn't doomed or anything, but making excuses for why something hit its lowest point in over a year and a half just still makes it seem bad. We could also look at the 360 in America and blame the sales on being out for 7 years and still 200 dollars, but its still bad.
Enough to keep it give it a minor bump, yes. The last one did around 90k on the PSP.
Screw you.
I think a Lite /3DSi will be much more useful next year, especially considering they released 3DS XL last year. It'd be three hardwares in three years, I don't think it's what Nintendo should do this year, considering the MH4-Pokémon combo. Next year, when there won't be that combo and entering the fourth year after the launch on the market, is a much better release period.
BishopLamont
Banned
Uh what? It still has a chance? It definitely will more like it.
Agreed. If there's one thing that's been consistent with the Vita it's that when the platform gets decent game releases hardware sales are positively impacted. More consistent releases at the current price point would raise the baseline for weekly hardware sales, no question.
Nyaruko will save the Vita!
michaelius
Banned
I was thinking hardware wise. Otherwise it's going to keep dropping till July.
metalslimer
Member
Well Nintendo better have something to get shipments up because outside of some miracle they aren't hitting 18 million shipped unless they have a mega holiday in the west.
Yes multiple times.
frankie_baby
Member
Yes it has
michaelius
Banned
I guess 3 is also "multiple"
metalslimer
Member
Uh...yes it is. I don't even know why you put multiple in quotes there....
I don't want to post a new topic on this, but maybe someone should if it's significant enough. One Piece: Unlimited World Red is announced for 3DS.
http://gematsu.com/2013/05/one-piece-unlimited-world-red-announced-for-3ds
So yeah that's the continuing Japan support for 3DS. Still no love for its brother.
http://gematsu.com/2013/05/one-piece-unlimited-world-red-announced-for-3ds
So yeah that's the continuing Japan support for 3DS. Still no love for its brother.
...yes?
The Vita has had 3 weeks with numbers lower than 6,037.
2012-10-22 (5,806), 2012-10-29 (4,842), and 2012-11-05 (4,021).
Eh, though you're technically correct, 'multiple' makes it sound like a regular occurrence.
Well, with Pokémon and that Zelda (not the classic main Zelda, but New Legend of Zelda, AND the sequel to ALTTP, so a much bigger drain for mass audience), and also Mario Party, sales this Holiday can't not be very big in the West. Right now we're seeing 3DS games costantly high in all European charts (yes, UK too!), and since last Summer this meant very good hardware sales (above everyone else), I think the situation in Europe is seriously improving. And that's before Animal Crossing, the sales influence of which is going to be very interesting to judge. Given also the MH4+Pokémon combo in Japan, they have a good chance hitting the 18 millions target. Still, a price cut in the West would confirm they'd hit that target with no doubt.
michaelius
Banned
Because saying multiple suggests it happened many times when in reality it was 3 weeks.
shinra-bansho
Member
Oh, seems like it will be "ok" for a couple of weeks then.
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Also, re: Resident Evil, how have attach rates been on Nintendo consoles in the past for the series. 1/10th PS3 would imply the same attach rate, given relative hardware bases, is that likely?
3DS XL increased total 3DS sales by more than 750k last year. You think 2 software titles will sell that much additional hardware? And it's not like last year didn't have big guns like NSMB2 and Animal Crossing. It will be really difficult to top last years 5.5 million, but I won't lean on either way just yet.
Thanks. Got a bit dazzled by all the ONEs in the forum.
metalslimer
Member
Uh..no it suggests it happened more than once which is what multiple means. If it had happened 5 times would multiple still not be an acceptable word?
Maybe for one week at least.
BishopLamont
Banned
Its kinda pointless to say the sales are bad and thats it, why wouldn't you wanna discuss the reasons? I didn't say they weren't bad, but the the whole market is posting bad numbers, you shouldn't just single out the 3DS.
Pokemon + MH easily > NSMB2 and AC. Besides the second half of this year is totally stacked with games, way more so than last year.
dragonfart28
Banned
Wii U and Vita: "Hey guys, welcome to our den!"
"Console X has a few games in development".
"Console X has multiple games in development".
Which one sounds better?
specialguy
Banned
Finally, we can respite from bashing the new Xbox and get back to some good old Japanese sales numbers!
Wii U...wow...
Wii U...wow...
michaelius
Banned
6/27 is also Toukiden with limited edition Vita bundle
And at the rate Namco and SE are going GE2 and FFX will be Vita titles for Christmas....
And at the rate Namco and SE are going GE2 and FFX will be Vita titles for Christmas....
Father_Brain
Banned
This is true for basically every platform ever, though, not some unique property of the Vita. It's not as though anyone (well, most people) think Vita is selling badly in Japan because there's something about the hardware that's intrinsically unappealing to the market.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
wow, painful week. Vita is still up a bit compared to last year, but everything is down overall this month.
Terrible Wii U numbers, really quite surprising. Nintendo better pull out something amazing at E3 this year.
Terrible Wii U numbers, really quite surprising. Nintendo better pull out something amazing at E3 this year.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Hardware wise, nothing. It'll still be around half PS3 and like 20x 360.
metalslimer
Member
Actually the bottom sounds worse because if your number is so low to use the word multiple instead of the usual "There are over a hundred games in development" it just sounds bad.
Yeah, but this is getting off topic, so I guess I'll use nicer words if it makes people "feel better" =p
AranhaHunter
Banned
What did the XBox and the 360 sell 1st week in Japan. I think the PS4 is a wildcard and can't make a prediction yet, but I'm feeling kind of confident with starting predicting XBO's 1st week's numbers.
Fixed. If it was "handheld" or bust, the Vita would be selling well.
The market in Japan is worrisome, outside of the 3DS everything is selling horrible numbers. There are some explanations to some of them though:
- PS3 is 7 years old and is still overpriced
- PSP is on its last legs
- Wii has run its course
- DS has run its course
The WiiU and Vita have lots of problems. Vita lost its major exclusive franchise to the competition and is not even getting an iteration of it. The major problem for Vita is lack of system selling exclusives. It does not have one (1) exclusive 500K+ selling franchise game on it or even upcoming. The other problem vita has is that it tries to do what tablets and smartphones do but the OS is not robust enough to compete in that area with google and android. The WiiU has the problem of being underpowered, expensive, and games have mainly been rehashes so far. It does have exclusive system selling games, but they have either been milked like NSMBU or are ports like MH3U and DQX. WiiU does have games that fit that coming in the future (MK, SSB, 3D Mario, Zelda). We'll see how those pan out, but it's safe to say it won't suddenly make the machine go from selling 6K/week to selling 45k/week.
I think Vita and WiiU are undesirable products that Sony and Nintendo have done very little to rectify their problems to make them successful (Sony more so than Nintendo IMO).
I think people are confused when they say "Home console" market is dead and handheld market is thriving. I posted this sometime ago. The home console generation is lower than last, but it's not as doomed as people make it seem. The handheld market had a huge drop (Vita numbers are mainly to blame, but 3DS will probably not reach DS' numbers either). I believe the right term would be the market is changing. IMHO there's still a market there for dedicated handheldS and dedicated home consoles.
If the rumor is true and Sony has deals with SE for FFXV and KH3, as well as a MGS (I believe this was rumored as well), then the PS4 can get some decent numbers there. They still could release a GT6Epilogue next year exclusive on it as well while waiting for the proper GT7 a couple of years down the line.
Fixed. If it was "handheld" or bust, the Vita would be selling well.
The market in Japan is worrisome, outside of the 3DS everything is selling horrible numbers. There are some explanations to some of them though:
- PS3 is 7 years old and is still overpriced
- PSP is on its last legs
- Wii has run its course
- DS has run its course
The WiiU and Vita have lots of problems. Vita lost its major exclusive franchise to the competition and is not even getting an iteration of it. The major problem for Vita is lack of system selling exclusives. It does not have one (1) exclusive 500K+ selling franchise game on it or even upcoming. The other problem vita has is that it tries to do what tablets and smartphones do but the OS is not robust enough to compete in that area with google and android. The WiiU has the problem of being underpowered, expensive, and games have mainly been rehashes so far. It does have exclusive system selling games, but they have either been milked like NSMBU or are ports like MH3U and DQX. WiiU does have games that fit that coming in the future (MK, SSB, 3D Mario, Zelda). We'll see how those pan out, but it's safe to say it won't suddenly make the machine go from selling 6K/week to selling 45k/week.
I think Vita and WiiU are undesirable products that Sony and Nintendo have done very little to rectify their problems to make them successful (Sony more so than Nintendo IMO).
I think people are confused when they say "Home console" market is dead and handheld market is thriving. I posted this sometime ago. The home console generation is lower than last, but it's not as doomed as people make it seem. The handheld market had a huge drop (Vita numbers are mainly to blame, but 3DS will probably not reach DS' numbers either). I believe the right term would be the market is changing. IMHO there's still a market there for dedicated handheldS and dedicated home consoles.
If the rumor is true and Sony has deals with SE for FFXV and KH3, as well as a MGS (I believe this was rumored as well), then the PS4 can get some decent numbers there. They still could release a GT6Epilogue next year exclusive on it as well while waiting for the proper GT7 a couple of years down the line.
Eh, fair enough. I'd say 'a few' sounded like a bad omen, whereas 'multiple' suggests many. Language is fun!
It ain't so much about feelings as it is about painting an accurate picture.
pieatorium
Member
Damned semantics. Ruins everything.
I think "ruins some things" would be more correct here
BronsonLee
Member
Why the hell are we discussing the definition of multiple in the Media Create thread
Multiple literally means more than one
Metalslimer is not being a super duper wordsmith car salesman snake, it means more than once, stoppit
Multiple literally means more than one
Metalslimer is not being a super duper wordsmith car salesman snake, it means more than once, stoppit
The Horror the horror
Banned
Unlike the Vita, the Wii U will get all the AAA games and exclusive support from one of the best developers in the industry.
I can't help but think while 3DS will do okay from here on out, I feel that once Nintendo ramps up Wii U titles production that 3DS is going to get left in the dust. There's the 3DS and its eShop and the Wii U and its eShop. Lots of places where Nintendo can place their content. But since WiiU is just doing really bad right now, probably worse than GCN at this point in time, Nintendo will probably put all their sights on Wii U.
And correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed like after the first few years Nintendo more or less didn't keep up a steady pace of software titles with their GBA/DS lineups and focused on their consoles a bit more.
I guess what I'm saying is that I wish they could have more internal studios. I don't want either of their platforms to be left in the dust...
And correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed like after the first few years Nintendo more or less didn't keep up a steady pace of software titles with their GBA/DS lineups and focused on their consoles a bit more.
I guess what I'm saying is that I wish they could have more internal studios. I don't want either of their platforms to be left in the dust...
Sammy Samusu
Member
Your eyes are playing tricks on you, two empty weeks in eartly June.
And those games are irrelevant, except for Valhalla and Idol (lol). Vita will probably dip below 10k very soon.
Also: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510733 (basically zero impact)
Anyway, 9k or 11k, it's all psychological, Vita is already selling horribly and at a reduced price. Time to release dat Vita LCD.
shinra-bansho
Member
Actually, I'm surprised they haven't done this yet. At the very least they could increase margins on the product or alternatively they could lower the price and potentially sell more for the same margin. It's clearly not enough of a selling point to justify the price.
Not quite:
"Well, here's its upcoming schedule for the next three weeks in which it is actually getting games."
But yes, the gap and title relevance is definitely going to hit it.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Sony can't afford another price-cut, so the only option now is to use cheaper components.
Aaaah I see, so my eyes were playing tricks on me.