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See what happens when you release games Nintendo? Now do something for North america!
BladeoftheImmortal said:why would retailers mark them down when they bought them for a higher price already? They'll wait for the last possible moment before they take a hit on their inventory.
Uhh....Souldriver said:Makes you wonder how well the console could have done if Nintendo hadn't treated it like shit. It seems like only 1 software hit was needed to get back to PS3 level sales. The short lifespan of the Wii was written in the stars for years now, but Nintendo didn't really do much to fight against it.
Still the weirdest aspect of this generation: Nintendo stomping everyone out of the gate, but the Sony platforms slowly chugging along and even reviving a bit after the Nintendo platforms have fizzled out.
I'm looking forward to the 3DS sales. The horrendous lows followed up by an (expected) peak will be entertaining.
Road said:If you like archiving those, this other site has top 10 for systems and top 10 used sales, but with Media Create data. Also numberless.
No need to point that out, as I wasn't denying it either. The DS vs PSP story is even better to illustrate. Nothing will reach the DS' LTD in a looong time, so I'm not denying Nintendo's success with the platform. It's just that when Nintendo has moved on to the 3DS, Sony is still relying on the PSP for a while, and ironically the platform is performing better than in its first years, especially in software sales/releases. Or so it seems at least. My main point was that (if you look back to 2005 and 2006) the Nintendo hardware was stomping all the competition into oblivion, while today weirdly enough the Sony hardware from that same generation is on top in weekly sales. I think this has rarely if ever happened in a generation.DGRE said:Uhh....
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|System | LTD |
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| PS3 | 6.804.789 |
| WII | 11.670.002 |
I understand what you mean, but the Wii still has nearly double the consoles out there. PS3 has revived a bit but it's NEVER going to reach the LTD sales of the Wii, and that is saying something.
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |
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| WII | 29,2% | 17,7% | 24,0% |
| PSP | 28,1% | 33,3% | 24,3% |
| PS3 | 21,0% | 23,9% | 11,7% |
| NDS | 13,0% | 12,6% | 36,2% |
| 3DS | 6,1% | 10,9% | 0,0% |
| 360 | 2,3% | 1,3% | 2,7% |
| PS2 | 0,2% | 0,2% | 1,0% |
| OTH | 0,1% | 0,1% | 0,1% |
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS | 32.381 | 45.949 | 0 | 1.286.985 | 0 | 1.286.985 |
| PSP # | 27.056 | 25.013 | 31.315 | 1.182.158 | 1.362.459 | 17.459.089 |
| PS3 | 22.935 | 22.807 | 21.356 | 707.279 | 928.490 | 6.657.166 |
| WII | 16.939 | 14.260 | 21.500 | 469.053 | 1.021.866 | 11.699.345 |
| NDS # | 11.141 | 6.447 | 44.204 | 646.513 | 1.581.948 | 32.770.811 |
| 360 | 1.526 | 1.582 | 5.575 | 75.617 | 129.108 | 1.482.280 |
| PS2 | 1.155 | 1.048 | 1.516 | 39.335 | 59.347 | 21.935.246 |
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| ALL | 113.133 | 117.106 | 125.466 | 4.406.940 | 5.083.218 | 93.290.922 |
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| DSi | 11.040 | 6.279 | 40.039 | 620.709 | 1.449.414 | 8.181.582 |
| DSL | 101 | 168 | 4.165 | 25.804 | 132.534 | 18.140.023 |
| PSPGo | 60 | 56 | 547 | 19.699 | 42.962 | 160.151 |
| PSP | 26.996 | 24.957 | 30.768 | 1.162.459 | 1.319.497 | 17.298.938 |
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I think it's time for Taiko to move next gen. 3DS holiday 2011, Wii U holiday 2012.Chris1964 said:DS got a new Taiko last July, they can't release a new game every 12 months, so far only 3 there are for the system. This December there will be a new Wii or DS or 3DS Taiko.
Sadly even with google translate I don't understand a thing from that article, since the graph legends don't get translated.Chris1964 said:First 3DS survey from 4Gamer after 3DS price drop. 6500 responses. The article is huge and has many graphs.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/000/G000000/20110803051/
This is a survey from 4Gamer, the sample is big but not representative.Souldriver said:Sadly even with google translate I don't understand a thing from that article, since the graph legends don't get translated.
Could anyone give the important information from it? And/or remarkable trends?
Thanks for the clarification.Chris1964 said:This is a survey from 4Gamer, the sample is big but not representative.
According to the article a proper market research from Media Create is following soon.
But.... any high points?Chris1964 said:This is a survey from 4Gamer, the sample is big but not representative.
According to the article a proper market research from Media Create is following soon.
There are many points in the article. What I find interesting.gkryhewy said:But.... any high points?
Chris1964 said:There are many points in the article. What I find interesting.
80% of those who participated at the survey belong to 20-30s showing the demographic of current 3DS adopters.
Software line-up is the biggest minus for 3DS and non 3DS owners, price comes after.
There isn't confidence for the future even with Mario Kart and Mario Land.
70% of them is interested in Vita.
Generally disappointment for 3DS.
I believe Gamasutra has an article up about this survey:Chris1964 said:First 3DS survey from 4Gamer after 3DS price drop. 6500 responses. The article is huge and has many graphs.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/000/G000000/20110803051/
[Nintex] said:I believe Gamasutra has an article up about this survey:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...campaign=Feed:+GamasutraNews+(Gamasutra+News)
I like this article. Much like all the other articles out there bemoaning the state of Nintendo's union, it's filled with numbers, like the fact that over 60% of early adopters are happy with their purchase, price drop or no. (Note how I call them early adopters--shall we go back and look at the launch of the original DS to compare?) It even tells you that only 9.4% of all people surveyed without a 3DS are considering a PSP Vita. What's more, the survey shows that over 60% of all the non-owners did *not* cite game library as their primary reason to hold off on a purchase! Just imagine how well the 3DS Lite will sell when it finally comes out, backed by what's soon to be a Nintendo-filled catalog of quality software!
...Wait, am I reading the data wrong? It's almost like I used the data to see only what I wanted. Hmm...
Well Media Create will soon release their market research so we'll just have to wait and see. Still, this is a good indication of how the Japanese core gamers think about the system and the pricedrop and there's just not enough games for them to be interested.Nuclear Muffin said:And this guy's comment really reveals everything about this Gamasutra article...
Is the guy basing those numbers straight from the 4gamer survey charts or second-hand though? I'd rather see the charts translated.Nuclear Muffin said:And this guy's comment really reveals everything about this Gamasutra article...
Gamasutra's source seems to be a writer who translated it:rpmurphy said:Is the guy basing those numbers straight from the 4gamer survey charts or second-hand though? I'd rather see the charts translated.
Sorry, I meant the person who made the comment, not the author of the article.[Nintex] said:Gamasutra's source seems to be a writer who translated it:
http://feitclub.tumblr.com/
But it pretty much matches up with what Chris1964 posted so it seems to be legit.
Zoramon089 said:I don't really think a sample size of that low is really indicative of...anything, especially as it came only from a specific site's viewers. It's like if Gamefaqs or GAF were polled and people took those polls seriously
6500 people is a pretty good sample for a certain demographic(in this case core gamers), market research usually doesn't poll more than a few hundred at best.Zoramon089 said:I don't really think a sample size of that low is really indicative of...anything, especially as it came only from a specific site's viewers. It's like if Gamefaqs or GAF were polled and people took those polls seriously
It's still important to note the demographic of the poll:[Nintex] said:6500 people is a pretty good sample for a certain demographic(in this case core gamers), market research usually doesn't poll more than a few hundred at best.
[Nintex] said:6500 people is a pretty good sample for a certain demographic(in this case core gamers), market research usually doesn't poll more than a few hundred at best.
You asked for a translation of the charts, and Nintex' article is translating the charts. :Srpmurphy said:Sorry, I meant the person who made the comment, not the author of the article.
I agree with you here, the problem with this poll isn't the amount of people asked, but that the demographic is too specific and as such only reliable for a rather limited group of people. It's not indicative of what the 3DS is going to sell.[Nintex said:]6500 people is a pretty good sample for a certain demographic(in this case core gamers), market research usually doesn't poll more than a few hundred at best.
If they're selected randomly, yes. Otherwise it's useless.[Nintex] said:6500 people is a pretty good sample for a certain demographic(in this case core gamers), market research usually doesn't poll more than a few hundred at best.
They aren't claiming that their poll is representative, though. They specifically asked their readers what they think of the 3DS and they are selling the article accordingly.Jokeropia said:If they're selected randomly, yes. Otherwise it's useless.
No fault on 4Gamer's then, just the people overinterpreting it.wrowa said:They aren't claiming that their poll is representative, though. They specifically asked their readers what they think of the 3DS and they are selling the article accordingly.
SE is going to announce DQX together with a first trailer at TGS, if they aren't planning on a surprise release (they most probably aren't) the chances of a DQX release this year are very, very, very slim.Sammy Samusu said:Any chance of Dragon Quest X releasing this year?
Feitclub's blog doesn't translate all of it though. :Xwrowa said:You asked for a translation of the charts, and Nintex' article is translating the charts. :S
Sammy Samusu said:Any chance of Dragon Quest X releasing this year?
If Wii ends 2011 ahead of PS3 I'll be jailed. Christmas always punches Sony down, lol. Not fair, for real.
Considering we're just getting the first footage of DQX with the DQ Wii Collection coming out this September and considering the DQ Collection itself, it's safe to say DQX won't come out until 2012 imo.Sammy Samusu said:Any chance of Dragon Quest X releasing this year?
If Wii ends 2011 ahead of PS3 I'll be jailed. Christmas always punches Sony down, lol. Not fair, for real.
it was on purpose...intensivelyAceBandage said:
PSFan said:Considering we're just getting the first footage of DQX with the DQ Wii Collection coming out this September and considering the DQ Collection itself, it's safe to say DQX won't come out until 2012 imo.
PSFan said:Considering we're just getting the first footage of DQX with the DQ Wii Collection coming out this September and considering the DQ Collection itself, it's safe to say DQX won't come out until 2012 imo.
allan-bh said:Media Create provided 3DS sales before and after price cut announcement.
25-28 jul (before)- 14k
29-31 jul (after)- 3k
Used sales nearly doubled. System's used price is ¥4,000 less now.
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD |
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| ALL | 817.000 | 904.000 | 1.444.713 | 24.751.000 | 32.332.754 |
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