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Media Create Sales: Week 31, 2013 (Jul 29 - Aug 04)

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Gianni Merryman

Member
jwhit28 said:
It's the same thing that happened with Grasshopper's games. If the game fails on a Nintendo console, blame the fans, call them casuals. If it fails on Sony or Microsoft, they are a cursed niche developer or something.
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Yeah, I don't want to stir it up too much, but I like how Shadows of the damned and now Killer is dead bomb and everything is fine and dandy, whereas when a game underperforms on a Nintendo platorm some take the occasion to argue that's the proof that third parties should bring their games elsewhere, double standard indeed.
 
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Road

Member
Lexxus said:
Top 16 for MH4
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You can't even pre-order it right now. The game is going to be sold-out until December. First week sales are going to be something crazy like 1 million physical and 1 million downloads.

Sammy Samusu said:
Not available right now, Capcom is being careful with pre-orders.

When MH4 is available, it lasts for like a day or two. Just a few days ago Amazon was taking pre-orders for the game and bundles.
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I don't think they're being careful. It's Capcom we're talking here, the kings of overshipping. If they could, they would have put 3 million copies of MH4 out there day one and retailers would buy them all. Conspiracy theory says they either want to sell downloads or Nintendo can't make enough carts.
 
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Law Abiding Stranger

Banned
I wonder what will the difference be in sales between Pokemon and MH4.

In my opinion both are equally big at this point (in Japan of course, MH is pretty much nothing in the west).

Not to mention that these two are relatively close to each other in release,3DS is seriously going to overkill the software sales.
 
E

Exterminieren

Banned
When might we hear numbers for Pokemon pre-orders?

Black and White's million is certainly out of reach, but I'm interested in how the new features and style are galvanising interest.
 
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BriBri

Member
Road said:
Conspiracy theory says they either want to sell downloads or Nintendo can't make enough carts.
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Both theories hold almost equal credence. I wonder how long before it beats Tomodachi Collection's digital numbers (I guess between 45-100k) and challenge Animal Crossing.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Law Abiding Stranger said:
I wonder what will the difference be in sales between Pokemon and MH4.

In my opinion both are equally big at this point (in Japan of course, MH is pretty much nothing in the west).

Not to mention that these two are relatively close to each other in release,3DS is seriously going to overkill the software sales.
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I reckon Pokemon is going to sell shedloads in Japan, still I expect MH4 to be a 4+M hit and become the second or third best selling title on 3DS - Animal crossing is already moving towards 4M mark.

DrWong said:
There's one for France: http://www.amazon.fr/gp/movers-and-shakers/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsms

France: 128th --> 43rd
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Wow at France, as far as I can recollecr Nintendo games for some reason are always better received than in the rest of Europe.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Road said:
Conspiracy theory says they either want to sell downloads or Nintendo can't make enough carts.
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Another way to put it is that lot of people is going to want to purchase digitally MH4, not differently from what has happened with Animal crossing new leaf, MN3U and Tomodatchi collection, it's the kind of game people want to bring with them everywhere so I expect sales would be affected regardless of any teoretical cart shortages.
 
D

djplaeskool

Member
Atelier Rorona, GE2, and Danganronpa holdin' it down for Vita, but god damn, Pokebombs gonna drop real hard. X/Y looks literally unstoppable.
 
T

Tenki

Member
Mpl90 said:
Mmmh, so far we've seen clear improvements in W101's ranking in Japan, a sign that the Direct worked...and I know this is just a Japan sales thread, but I think it'd be interesting to look at how ND could affect preorders also outside Japan, for the sake of the comparison.

Japan: 274th --> 35th
UK: 236th --> 78th
Germany: 369th --> 133rd
US: 430th --> 163rd

France not included since there's no "Movers and Shakers" chart there.
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It's 12th in Amazon Spain :D
http://www.amazon.es/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_v_0
 
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Law Abiding Stranger

Banned
If Atelier Rorona remake on the Vita outsells the PS3 version (which I think will happen) the series should move to the Vita.

The same for NiS games and Disgaea.
Disgaea 5 would do great on Vita.

But on the other hand it would collide with the "up-port' strategy that PS3 version is the standard release and then later down the line an up-port comes on the Vita.

Wonder what will happen.
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
Road said:
I don't think they're being careful. It's Capcom we're talking here, the kings of overshipping. If they could, they would have put 3 million copies of MH4 out there day one and retailers would buy them all. Conspiracy theory says they either want to sell downloads or Nintendo can't make enough carts.
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Yeah, exactly, I mean careful with how many pre-orders they can take.

And again, I just noticed MH4 will be released on a Saturday (2 days of sales), what the fuck. MHP3 was released on a Wednesday (5 days of sales).

I see you Capcom. No wonder it sold that much at launch.
 
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Lexxism

Member
What was the biggest opening week for a pokemon game? Did it ever reach 2m sales? I saw MH3p did 1.9m. How about pokemon?
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Lexxus said:
What was the biggest opening week for a pokemon game? Did it ever reach 2m sales? I saw MH3p did 1.9m. How about pokemon?
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Here's the list of all games that debuted selling over 2 million units:

Code: 
[B][NDS] Pokémon Black / White (Pokémon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 2.637.285[/B]
[PSX] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) {1999.02.11} - 2.504.044
[NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Defenders of the Starry Sky (Square Enix) {2009.07.11} - 2.343.440
[PS2] Dragon Quest VIII (Square Enix) {2004.11.27} - 2.236.881
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 2.146.467 
[PSX] Final Fantasy VII (Square) {1997.01.31} - 2.034.879

Source: Famitsu

Do we know how many PSX systems had been sold when Final Fantasy VII was released?
 
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guek

Banned
Chris1964 said:
Let's put this in another way. If Wii U version came out in December and PS3 version now would there be big difference at sales?

I doubt things would be very different.
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Why wouldn't they be? The Yakuza games are fairly popular in Japan, Yakuza 2 especially. It wouldn't have made much sense for the collection to appear on a nintendo platform and not a Sony platform but if it had come out on wii u first in december when software and hardware sales were much healthier, why wouldn't there be a difference in sales? And if the PS3 version came out now after over half a year of fans thinking they could only get it on wii u, considering it opened fairly soft to begin with, why is it so inconceivable to think it'd sell a bit less?

I'm not saying it would have done just as well on wii u as PS3 had their releases been reversed but there's an argument to be made that it could have made a difference. This is all conjecture though, so if you disagree, there's no hard evidence to disprove you. If ZombiU could sell 13k at launch though, why would a timed exclusive like Yakuza HD sell significantly less?
 
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crinale

Member
guek said:
Why wouldn't they be? The Yakuza games are fairly popular in Japan, Yakuza 2 especially. It wouldn't have made much sense for the collection to appear on a nintendo platform and not a Sony platform but if it had come out on wii u first in december when software and hardware sales were much healthier, why wouldn't there be a difference in sales? And if the PS3 version came out now after over half a year of fans thinking they could only get it on wii u, considering it opened fairly soft to begin with, why is it so inconceivable to think it'd sell a bit less?

I'm not saying it would have done just as well on wii u as PS3 had their releases been reversed but there's an argument to be made that it could have made a difference. This is all conjecture though, so if you disagree, there's no hard evidence to disprove you. If ZombiU could sell 13k at launch though, why would a timed exclusive like Yakuza HD sell significantly less?
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Yakuza games are quite controversial in Japan (rated CERO D).
I don't see Soccer Moms are buying Yakuza for their kids. As a matter of fact you must be last grade of high school or higher (must show your ID) to even purchase Yakuza game.
 
Refreshment.01

Refreshment.01

Member
The 3DS has a very strong position from know till the end of the year. After that the only good move i see Nintendo doing is launching a redesign before the first half of 2014, that'll ensure a continuation of strong sales for the device coming to 2015.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Sammy Samusu said:
Yeah, exactly, I mean careful with how many pre-orders they can take.

And again, I just noticed MH4 will be released on a Saturday (2 days of sales), what the fuck. MHP3 was released on a Wednesday (5 days of sales).

I see you Capcom. No wonder it sold that much at launch.
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He doesn't say that. And MHP3rd was sold out for weeks, they were selling what they could ship.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Bruno MB said:
Do we know how many PSX systems had been sold when Final Fantasy VII was released?
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Code: 
1994-12		280.000
1995-01		181.000
1995-02		120.000
1995-03		200.000
1995-04		90.000
1995-05		50.000
1995-06		46.000
1995-07		100.000
1995-08		80.000
1995-09		70.000
1995-10		56.000
1995-11		130.000
1995-12		250.000
1996-01		151.000
1996-02		126.000
1996-03		215.000
1996-04		189.000
1996-05		166.000
1996-06		200.000
1996-07		238.000
1996-08		310.000
1996-09		245.000
1996-10		156.000
1996-11		184.000
1996-12		519.000
1997-01		520.000
1997-02		531.000
 
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saichi

Member
Law Abiding Stranger said:
I wonder what will the difference be in sales between Pokemon and MH4.

In my opinion both are equally big at this point (in Japan of course, MH is pretty much nothing in the west).

Not to mention that these two are relatively close to each other in release,3DS is seriously going to overkill the software sales.
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Not sure how you came to this conclusion since Pokemon Gen 1-5 never sold less than 5.33 mil in Japan while no MHP game ever sold over 5 mil before.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Chris1964 said:
Code: 
1994-12		280.000
1995-01		181.000
1995-02		120.000
1995-03		200.000
1995-04		90.000
1995-05		50.000
1995-06		46.000
1995-07		100.000
1995-08		80.000
1995-09		70.000
1995-10		56.000
1995-11		130.000
1995-12		250.000
1996-01		151.000
1996-02		126.000
1996-03		215.000
1996-04		189.000
1996-05		166.000
1996-06		200.000
1996-07		238.000
1996-08		310.000
1996-09		245.000
1996-10		156.000
1996-11		184.000
1996-12		519.000
1997-01		520.000
1997-02		531.000
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Very interesting data, thank you.
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
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Road

Member
I'm more surprised Amazon had one hundred thousand units of anything. I'd think that would be more like their entire video game sales in one year.

Why is the Twitter still there https://twitter.com/AmazonJP/status/366200521603817474
but not on the Amazon's page: https://twitter.com/AmazonJP/

#toooldfortwitter

Alrus said:
He's talking Japan. And in terms of LTD, I think Dragon Quest VII sold more than FFVII.
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Famitsu sell-through:

[PS1] Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshitachi {2000-08-26} (Enix) - 1,862,065 / 3,893,293
[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII {1999-02-11} (Square) - 2,504,044 / 3,501,588
[PS1] Final Fantasy VII {1997-01-31} (Square) - 2,034,879 / 3,277,776

Famitsu sell-through combining all releases:

[PS1] Final Fantasy VII (Square) {1997-01-31} - 2,034,879 / 3,937,899 (FFVII, FFVII: International, FFVII: International [PSOne Books], FFVII: International [Ultimate Hits])
[PS1] Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshitachi (Enix) {2000-08-26} - 1,862,065 / 3,893,293
[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) {1999-02-11} - 2,504,044 / 3,501,588

Shipments:

[PS1] Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshitachi (Enix) {2000-08-26} - 4,140,000
[PS1] Final Fantasy VII (Square) {1997-01-31} - 4,000,000
[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) {1999-02-11} - 3,640,000
 
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Aquamarine

Member
Code: 
[B][U]Comgnet Software Sales Rankings (2013/08/05 - 2013/08/11)[/U][/B]

[B]01. [3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake - 53pt[/B]
02. [3DS] Mario and Luigi: Dream Team - 49pt
03. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life - 49pt
04. [3DS] Tomodachi Collection: New Life - 42pt
[B]05. [3DS] Pokémon Torretta Lab for Nintendo 3DS (First Edition) - 33pt[/B]
06. [3DS] Ace Attorney 5 - 27pt
07. [3DS] Youkai Watch - 26pt
08. [PS3] Dragon's Crown - 25pt
09. [PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 - 19pt
10. [PSP] God Eater Burst (PSP the Best) - 18pt
11. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 18pt
[B]12. [PS3] Resident Evil 6: Special Package - 17pt[/B]
13. [3DS] Hoppechan: Tsukutte! Asonde! Punipuni Town!! - 16pt
14. [3DS] Fantasy Life: Link! - 15pt
15. [3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Battle! - 15pt
16. [PSV] Dragon's Crown - 14pt
17. [PS3] The Last of Us - 14pt
18. [WII] New Play Control! Pikmin 2 - 13pt
19. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D - 13pt
[B]20. [3DS] Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-Kun SP: Rantou Kyousoukyoku - 13pt[/B]
[B]* New releases are in bold
* 1 pt = 1 sale
3DS - 13
PS3 - 4
PSP - 1
PSV - 1
WII - 1[/B]

No Tsutaya yet.

I'll post their list when they update.
 
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Alrus

Member
BlackJace said:
I wonder when Japan is going to become more interested in consoles again. Either with Smash 4, or FF XV, perhaps?
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Not for Smash I fear, this one is getting a 3DS version too, it's going to eat into the Wii U's version sales big time (in Japan at least).

FF XV's effect depends on how damaged the brand is, we still have a long way to go before it releases and there's that shitty looking Lightning Returns game coming before.
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
BlackJace said:
I wonder when Japan is going to become more interested in consoles again. Either with Smash 4, or FF XV, perhaps?
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Well, if by "become more interested" you mean have the consoles sell more than 10K a week, the current console owners eventually switching over to PS4/Wii U should do that as major titles continue to release and PS3 games start to dry up.

If by "become more interested" you mean generation over generation lifetime sales growth, I don't think it will actually happen for the foreseeable future.
 
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