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[Omnistalgic]

You're going to be disappointed if you expect that to happen with MH.



The game would also be a more expensive to develop as well.

I don't expect it...just expressing myself...

I just just want a graphically impressive DQ game again, hasn't been the same since 7 for me on PS2, and no, WiiU isn't enough of a jump, that would just be finally getting a last-gen DQ game.

Friggin Japanese devs man, wtf happened to the gamers over there that don't like playing at home anymore on TV's. sheesh...I'm tired of RPG'in on these tiny screens! argghh...

rant/

 

[SwiftDeath]

Facts and context matter. Without them data is just like paint. You can make any kind of picture you want.

That's not entirely true. There are a lot of games that if for instance they only ever sold a single copy, everyone and their mother would agree it was a failed product commercially. Therefore there is some inherent spectrum of sales for games wherein which it goes from a clear and absolute bomb to some type of gray area where educated guesses come into play. Sure a lot of such discussions are based on a multitude of assumptions but you are free to make counterpoints/counterarguments. I don't see anything particularly harmful with such discussion taking place unless you think sales discussion on neogaf has some grandiose real world effect.

 

[jeremy1456]

I don't expect it...just expressing myself...

I just just want a graphically impressive DQ game again, hasn't been the same since 7 for me on PS2, and no, WiiU isn't enough of a jump, that would just be finally getting a last-gen DQ game.

Friggin Japanese devs man, wtf happened to the gamers over there that don't like playing at home anymore on TV's. sheesh...I'm tired of RPG'in on these tiny screens! argghh...

rant/

You're following the wrong series if impressive graphics are that important to you.

VIII really gave people the wrong impression about this series.

 

[Road]

Software sales 26 weeks into this FY (Dengeki)

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| System |          FY14 H1           |          FY13 H1           | Change  |
|        | (2014.03.31 to 2014.09.28) | (2013.04.01 to 2013.09.29) |         |
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| 3DS    | 8.210.707                  | 9.036.244                  | -9.1%   |
| PS3    | 2.679.494                  | 4.592.444                  | -41.7%  |
| Vita   | 2.619.250                  | 1.293.555                  | +102.5% |
| Wii U  | 1.456.648                  | 640.582                    | +127.4% |
| PS4    | 665.600                    | -                          | -       |
| PSP    | 480.479                    | 1.934.313                  | -75.2%  |
| X360   | 71.459                     | 204.839                    | -65.1%  |
| XB1    | 65.400                     | -                          | -       |
| Wii    | -                          | 517.443                    | -       |
| DS     | -                          | 228.735                    | -       |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Total  | 16.249.037                 | 18.448.155                 | -11.9%  |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

- Dengeki stopped reporting Wii & DS software and hardware earlier this year, so no FY14 numbers.
- 3DS software slightly down compared to FY13 H1, probably because MH4 was already out by this point in FY13 H1.
- Huge decline in PS3 & PSP software sales.
- Vita & Wii U software sales up significantly compared to FY13 H1.

3DS

FY13 H1:
Two biggest titles = MH4 + TL = 3938822 / 9036244 = 43.5%

FY14 H1
Two biggest titles = YW2 + SSB3DS = 4012341 / 8210707 = 48.8%

It's not the lack of huge titles that is putting 3DS down, it's everything else.

FY13
Four biggest titles = PXY + MH4 + PDZ + TL = 10501134 / 23279483 = 45.1%

FY14
Four biggest titles = PORAS + MH4G + YW2 + SSB3DS = We have to wait 6 months to know. It probably will be higher than the previous year 10.5 million, but 3DS overall sales could still be lower.

--------------------------------------

After 32 weeks:

PS4 = 1603000 (software) / 702000 (hardware) = 2.28

PS4 without Knack = 1207000 (software) / 701000 (hardware) = 1.72

WIU = 1560000 (software) / 970000 (hardware) = 1.61

Current:

WIU = 5703000 (software) / 1940000 (hardware) = 2.94

Downloads not included.

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No dramatic version here.

 

[SwiftDeath]

Road was there any notable bundling of software with the Wii U in its first 32 weeks? I would assume no but you never know

 

[sörine]

Road was there any notable bundling of software with the Wii U in its first 32 weeks? I would assume no but you never know

MH3U and DQX had limited bundles but nothing else. Nintendo Land wasn't bundled in Japan.

 

[Usobuko]

I get all the abbreviations except TL. I can't seem to figure out what's that.

 

[Mory Dunz]

I get all the abbreviations except TL. I can't seem to figure out what's that.

Tomodachi?
I'm not sure.

 

[Usobuko]

Tomodachi?
I'm not sure.

Yes. It's tomodachi life.

Thanks.

 

[saichi]

We already know it's a PS4 game. It won't be as bad as the DQIX thread.

was this announced? or it's like "we already know MH4P will be on VITA" kind of knowledge?

 

[sense]

was this announced? or it's like "we already know MH4P will be on VITA" kind of knowledge?

living in denial is a wonderful thing.

 

[shinra-bansho]

No Game in particular and post was a long time coming. Maybe some posters actually have the data to back up their quick judgments (which should be added to OP) but most cleary have a predefined number (usually arbitrary). Yea maybe trends matter year over year for some franchises... but most read way into that even.

Like lets take the example you provided, Bayonetta 2. What is the total financial investment in the product and what are their internal projections? Is it Nintendo who is losing the money if it doesnt break even or iss it Platinum? If its Nintendo was that anticipated in exchange for potential growth of the user base? If so what amount of growth is was projected? What is the projected revenue by region?

Facts and context matter. Without them data is just like paint. You can make any kind of picture you want.

In the absence of publishers being open about their budgets, something that isn't likely to happen any time soon, plausible inference has to suffice in discussion.

If you want to take the example of Bayonetta 2, one might not have exact numbers, but it seems relatively safe to infer that a fully-staffed HD title with a two+ year development cycle isn't going to make back its project costs through a few tens of thousands of sales.

Implications of publisher "disappointment" are a step further obviously and much more fluffy, for lack of a better word. I don't know whether Nintendo is necessarily disappointed with their sales. Assuming the people there aren't completely out of touch with reality, expectations would have been modified due to the events since the project was greenlit, and it may be reaching those expectations or even surpassing them. And monetary return on investment may not be the primary goal.

 

[Madouu]

Did I miss the DQXI announcement or did this thread turn into console wars vol. 96 redux, genuine question.

 

[extralite]

DQXI on home consoles doesn't need to sell 4 millions to be as or more profitable than previous entries that reached those heights. DQX doesn't just make its money from sub fees, it also has microtransactions for cosmetic in game items, it has real world tie in item codes (in players guides, magazines, even soft drinks) and it has a free to play companion app.

DQXI could be fully playable offline but still preserve some online components like the ecosystem (manufacturing professions, bazar, growing flowers/vegetables), hiring other players as support AIs, visiting other players' houses and interacting with their tamed monsters for people who want to go online as well.

Instead of taking DQ to smartphones, they are probably bringing DQXI to both home consoles and smartphones, in the same style as DQX (main game on consoles, companion app on smart devices), but minus the sub fee and requirement to play online.

As a Nintendo fan I hope DQXI will be multiplatform with the Wii U to cover the existing DQX fan base there but it is pretty clear that SE also wants to ensure success of their other franchise releases on PS4 this gen and will put DQXI on the same platform as FFXV. Which will then become the most important platform for RPG fans because it has both FF and DQ main releases.

It fits Horii's wish to make DQXI a console game and benefits SE's investments already having been made in PS4 development with FFXV.

 

[ZSaberLink]

I think folks are taking Horii's comments too seriously.He made a comment, nothing more. He wants DQ11 on a big screen, but he never said that's what happened. Also to anyone saying it'd be too late to be on the 3DS in 2016, folks clearly don't realize DQ is basically always late to platforms.

Also Mario Kart 8 has already outsold all the Wii U software in the 1st half of 2013... that's kind of insane (in 2 ways).

 

[Aostia]

Thanks to bruno. Your prediction for the YtD 13 vs 14? And what about the hw numbers?

 

[Sandfox]

DQXI on home consoles doesn't need to sell 4 millions to be as or more profitable than previous entries that reached those heights. DQX doesn't just make its money from sub fees, it also has microtransactions for cosmetic in game items, it has real world tie in item codes (in players guides, magazines, even soft drinks) and it has a free to play companion app.

DQXI could be fully playable offline but still preserve some online components like the ecosystem (manufacturing professions, bazar, growing flowers/vegetables), hiring other players as support AIs, visiting other players' houses and interacting with their tamed monsters for people who want to go online as well.

Instead of taking DQ to smartphones, they are probably bringing DQXI to both home consoles and smartphones, in the same style as DQX (main game on consoles, companion app on smart devices), but minus the sub fee and requirement to play online.

As a Nintendo fan I hope DQXI will be multiplatform with the Wii U to cover the existing DQX fan base there but it is pretty clear that SE also wants to ensure success of their other franchise releases on PS4 this gen and will put DQXI on the same platform as FFXV. Which will then become the most important platform for RPG fans because it has both FF and DQ main releases.

It fits Horii's wish to make DQXI a console game and benefits SE's investments already having been made in PS4 development with FFXV.

That would honestly be a weird direction to go with the series and I don't want them to start milking people like Tales.

 

[casiopao]

3DS

FY13 H1:
Two biggest titles = MH4 + TL = 3938822 / 9036244 = 43.5%

FY14 H1
Two biggest titles = YW2 + SSB3DS = 4012341 / 8210707 = 48.8%

It's not the lack of huge titles that is putting 3DS down, it's everything else.

FY13
Four biggest titles = PXY + MH4 + PDZ + TL = 10501134 / 23279483 = 45.1%

FY14
Four biggest titles = PORAS + MH4G + YW2 + SSB3DS = We have to wait 6 months to know. It probably will be higher than the previous year 10.5 million, but 3DS overall sales could still be lower.

I would say, on 2013 there are more 100+ - 200k sales here. Like One Piece Unlimited Red, Shin Megami Tensei, Phoenix Wright, etc there which boost up the sales. Not to forget Luigi Mansion, Dragon Quest and Donkey KONGA also show up early 2013.

It not surprising to see 2014 losing behind here. it is going to be interesting to see if all the coming software onslaught from Oct to December is going to be able overturns the number here. We have ORAS,MH4G, FFEX, some other smaller ones like Kinki no Magna too.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

haha, amazing stuff guys! last two pages made my day

#15millionPS4BELIEVE

 

[Kathian]

Wii U is no Wii this time around, stealing Sony's console hardware sales. PS4 is the only player in town, so Japan has no other choice. Full Japanese support.

What in the...

Anyway the rest of your post comes down to either delusion or willful ignorance of current PS4 sales and the home console market in Japan. The fact people took the 'king is back' stuff literally would be funny if they had not spent all of last gen seemingly waiting for it.

 

[Oregano]

was this announced? or it's like "we already know MH4P will be on VITA" kind of knowledge?

Well it is far from confirmed but it's looking increasingly likely as times goes on and if they began development under the impression that the PS4 would be massive it's not like they could suddenly switch to 3DS. I think it is almost certainly a PS4 game(with a PS3 version possibly) but I think it's a mistake.

 

[Aostia]

I think we should really get rid of all this DQXI talking until they will announce it or not. Otherwise it will REALLY be the next "MH Vita". It is ok to discuss in terms of projections and predictions, but it's absurd to have "Possible lineup wars", imho. Indipendently from how DQXI PS4 edition is possible or unlikly.

Btw, Thanks again to Bruno for the 3DS- Wii U SW 2013 numbers.
I've tried to do my homework on the HW numbers:

It seems that from Week 40 (starting September 30) to Week 52 (ending December 29) the 3DS and the Wii U sold:

3DS: 1.774.945 units
Wii U: 440.795 units

I think that the 3DS could sell more this year (Oct-Dec), due to the N3DS model
I really think that there is no way the Wii U could sell that much, considering how to me Smash impact will be minimal due to the 3DS version, if they will not offer new interesting bundles for Japan

 

[LOCK]

I think you are putting too much faith in Nintendo the Wii U maker and not enough faith in Sony the PS4 maker.

What does this have to do with what I stated?

I used Nintendo releasing a new console as a time mark. Which can be inferred, simply.

But keep trying

I think we should really get rid of all this DQXI talking until they will announce it or not. Otherwise it will REALLY be the next "MH Vita". It is ok to discuss in terms of projections and predictions, but it's absurd to have "Possible lineup wars", imho. Indipendently from how DQXI PS4 edition is possible or unlikly.

Btw, Thanks again to Bruno for the 3DS- Wii U SW 2013 numbers.
I've tried to do my homework on the HW numbers:

It seems that from Week 40 (starting September 30) to Week 52 (ending December 29) the 3DS and the Wii U sold:

3DS: 1.774.945 units
Wii U: 440.795 units

I think that the 3DS could sell more this year (Oct-Dec), due to the N3DS model
I really think that there is no way the Wii U could sell that much, considering how to me Smash impact will be minimal due to the 3DS version, if they will not offer new interesting bundles for Japan

Well the Wii U is selling better weekly as of now, though that probably could subside.

I think Smash's success on the 3DS will actually help Smash on the Wii U. Long time fans will try to buy both versions and some new fans could be persuaded to buy the "better" version.

Amiibo success is still an unknown factor.

I think, in my opinion, it will at least match last year and potentially more.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I think folks are taking Horii's comments too seriously.He made a comment, nothing more. He wants DQ11 on a big screen, but he never said that's what happened. Also to anyone saying it'd be too late to be on the 3DS in 2016, folks clearly don't realize DQ is basically always late to platforms.

Also Mario Kart 8 has already outsold all the Wii U software in the 1st half of 2013... that's kind of insane (in 2 ways).

He said he wanted to play DQ11 for the big screen iirc. There's nothing wrong putting weight in his statements considering how important he is to the DQ series.

Furthermore after the Dragon Quest Heroes announcement the chance of PS4 getting DQ11 is certainly something that must be noted. Its no longer as crazy as the proposition once was.

 

[ZSaberLink]

He said he wanted to play DQ11 for the big screen iirc. There's nothing wrong putting weight in his statements considering how important he is to the DQ series.

Furthermore after the Dragon Quest Heroes announcement the chance of PS4 getting DQ11 is certainly something that must be noted. Its no longer as crazy as the proposition once was.

Eh, I think folks are putting way too much weight into his statements (it's only been 2 right?). He said he wanted to put it on the big screen. He didn't say how likely it was, but that he wanted to. As a company, Square Enix would be crazy to have cultivated a DQ audience on 3DS with 3 exclusive remakes/ports on a much more successful platform in Japan, and then put it on PS4 only, where it would likely sell millions less (possibly even half the amount). They're releasing a DQ Warriors game that's cross-platform and is also on the PS4, but they've released a DQ game on 3DS every year of its existence (currently going on 4 w/ the DQX port). It really just doesn't add up to me. Square Enix just seems too business minded for this kind of decision imo, so the "it's clearly coming to PS4" still seems to be leaping to conclusions to me.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Eh, I think folks are putting way too much weight into his statements (it's only been 2 right?). He said he wanted to put it on the big screen. He didn't say how likely it was, but that he wanted to. As a company, Square Enix would be crazy to have cultivated a DQ audience on 3DS with 3 exclusive remakes/ports on a much more successful platform in Japan, and then put it on PS4 only, where it would likely sell millions less (possibly even half the amount). They're releasing a DQ Warriors game that's cross-platform and is also on the PS4, but they've released a DQ game on 3DS every year of its existence (currently going on 4 w/ the DQX port). It really just doesn't add up to me. Square Enix just seems too business minded for this kind of decision imo, so the "it's clearly coming to PS4" still seems to be leaping to conclusions to me.

Did I say that? Someone certainly is jumping to conclusions. DQ series seems to be going in the multiplatform direction so I wouldn't be too surprised to see DQ11 on 3DS and PS4.

 

[duckroll]

It's amazing how much time and effort is put into these threads debating hypotheticals for games which aren't even announced, instead of actual statistics and datas on games which are on sale.

 

[casiopao]

I think we should really get rid of all this DQXI talking until they will announce it or not. Otherwise it will REALLY be the next "MH Vita". It is ok to discuss in terms of projections and predictions, but it's absurd to have "Possible lineup wars", imho. Indipendently from how DQXI PS4 edition is possible or unlikly.

Btw, Thanks again to Bruno for the 3DS- Wii U SW 2013 numbers.
I've tried to do my homework on the HW numbers:

It seems that from Week 40 (starting September 30) to Week 52 (ending December 29) the 3DS and the Wii U sold:

3DS: 1.774.945 units
Wii U: 440.795 units

I think that the 3DS could sell more this year (Oct-Dec), due to the N3DS model
I really think that there is no way the Wii U could sell that much, considering how to me Smash impact will be minimal due to the 3DS version, if they will not offer new interesting bundles for Japan

If the new 3DS strategy on faceplates is succesful+ XL for all those Smash hardcores + broken 3DS lol. It should be able to push the platform to surpass last year number here.

For Wii U, it indeed depends a lot on the bundle here. If the bundle Wii U with Mario 3D World+ Wii Party U or Zelda, i am sure that it will be able to attract people into buying Wii U especially on Holiday time where Nintendo is the name everyone remember at that time.

The joker card for this holiday for me actually will be Amiibo's here. If it is succesful, it can make Nintendo even more successful here. It all depends on how they market them and what game is going to come out there.

 

[Aostia]

Well the Wii U is selling better weekly as of now, though that probably could subside.

I think Smash's success on the 3DS will actually help Smash on the Wii U. Long time fans will try to buy both versions and some new fans could be persuaded to buy the "better" version.
Amiibo success is still an unknown factor.
I think, in my opinion, it will at least match last year and potentially more.

If the new 3DS strategy on faceplates is succesful+ XL for all those Smash hardcores + broken 3DS lol. It should be able to push the platform to surpass last year number here.
For Wii U, it indeed depends a lot on the bundle here. If the bundle Wii U with Mario 3D World+ Wii Party U or Zelda, i am sure that it will be able to attract people into buying Wii U especially on Holiday time where Nintendo is the name everyone remember at that time.
The joker card for this holiday for me actually will be Amiibo's here. If it is succesful, it can make Nintendo even more successful here. It all depends on how they market them and what game is going to come out there.

So, we basically agree that the 3DS+N3DS has a change to beat last year Oct-Dec numbers.
About Wii U I see that both of you see in amiibo a key factor, and I agree: if they will have success could drive sales during holidays (not outside holidays, imho). Bundles too would be crucial
I disagree instead about Smash: it's not an IP that could gather more "attention" being released on a successfull platform, imho. It's not a new installment that comes years after the successfull previous one. I see the Wii U version as the second late version of the same game (even if it's not a "late port"), coming out on a way "inferior" platform. Up to now, there is also no advantage in buying the two versions of the game (no cross buy/play/save/ nothing) so...I'd say that IF they will reveal some interesting advantage (use, features, promotion or whatever) that could push Smash3DS owners toward a double dip, it could see success, and push some HW too. But as for now, I really think that 2014 Wii U potential sales has a weaker lineup compared to 13.
That's the reason why I don't see the Wii U able to beat its 2013 self.

It's amazing how much time and effort is put into these threads debating hypotheticals for games which aren't even announced, instead of actual statistics and datas on games which are on sale.

what do you think about the Oct-Dec "nintendo" hw numbers for 13 VS 14?

 

[gtj1092]

Eh, I think folks are putting way too much weight into his statements (it's only been 2 right?). He said he wanted to put it on the big screen. He didn't say how likely it was, but that he wanted to. As a company, Square Enix would be crazy to have cultivated a DQ audience on 3DS with 3 exclusive remakes/ports on a much more successful platform in Japan, and then put it on PS4 only, where it would likely sell millions less (possibly even half the amount). They're releasing a DQ Warriors game that's cross-platform and is also on the PS4, but they've released a DQ game on 3DS every year of its existence (currently going on 4 w/ the DQX port). It really just doesn't add up to me. Square Enix just seems too business minded for this kind of decision imo, so the "it's clearly coming to PS4" still seems to be leaping to conclusions to me.

Almost as crazy as making TR exclusive to the Xone.

 

[Busaiku]

Will Amiibo even push Wii U as much now?
Since New 3DS may outsell Wii U's LTD by the time it launches, I imagine that'll be Nintendo's primary focus.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Almost as crazy as making TR exclusive to the Xone.

except it is not.

 

[Aostia]

Will Amiibo even push Wii U as much now?
Since New 3DS may outsell Wii U's LTD by the time it launches, I imagine that'll be Nintendo's primary focus.

I honestly don't know.
Amiibo clearly is something they rely on, but could be in terms of revenue stream and not necessarily in terms of HW push, plus the lack of any kind of detail about them (neither date nor official price, just initial lineup of 12 figures; and we don't even know how they work in other game than Smash) is confusing. Plus, you are right that in Japan they could push them, but for/on N3DS, more than Wii U (unlike the West, for this holidays)

PS: I think that the prediction of N3ds LTD higher than the WiiU one is a little bit exxagerated

 

[shinra-bansho]

Wait, are people suggesting the n3DS is going to push the system to being up Y/Y?

The 3DS is behind Y/Y by over 1.5M YTD...
I can't see it.

EDIT: Oh, maybe I'm misreading.

 

[casiopao]

So, we basically agree that the 3DS+N3DS has a change to beat last year Oct-Dec numbers.
About Wii U I see that both of you see in amiibo a key factor, and I agree: if they will have success could drive sales during holidays (not outside holidays, imho). Bundles too would be crucial
I disagree instead about Smash: it's not an IP that could gather more "attention" being released on a successfull platform, imho. It's not a new installment that comes years after the successfull previous one. I see the Wii U version as the second late version of the same game (even if it's not a "late port"), coming out on a way "inferior" platform. Up to now, there is also no advantage in buying the two versions of the game (no cross buy/play/save/ nothing) so...I'd say that IF they will reveal some interesting advantage (use, features, promotion or whatever) that could push Smash3DS owners toward a double dip, it could see success, and push some HW too. But as for now, I really think that 2014 Wii U potential sales has a weaker lineup compared to 13.
That's the reason why I don't see the Wii U able to beat its 2013 self.



what do you think about the Oct-Dec "nintendo" hw numbers for 13 VS 14?

The reason why i see Wii U had more chances of growing past the last year number is actually also supported by Smash here.

While if it only had Smash for this entire year, i agree that there will be nothing to change the number sold for the console here. However, this time we also had Captain Toad and Taiko coming out again.

I can see how Smash selling some Wii U for Smash hardcore player here as we already see how some complain that their 3DS pad is beyond dead after playing that game here.

 

[duckroll]

what do you think about the Oct-Dec "nintendo" hw numbers for 13 VS 14?

I expect the n3DS to have a pretty strong opening and for momentum to carry through the holidays. But I think in the end it's still going to be down YoY. WiiU might actually be able to improve YoY if Smash gives it a good push, but that's not really saying much, pathetic either way.

 

[Aostia]

The reason why i see Wii U had more chances of growing past the last year number is actually also supported by Smash here.

While if it only had Smash for this entire year, i agree that there will be nothing to change the number sold for the console here. However, this time we also had Captain Toad and Taiko coming out again.

I can see how Smash selling some Wii U for Smash hardcore player here as we already see how some complain that their 3DS pad is beyond dead after playing that game here.

I don't know. Last year there was Mario 3d World, a brand new "all-in-one" exclusive game (both for hardcore and families), ideal for the Holidays Nintendo purchases; DQX+, that helped a lot in its release week; the first Taiko on the console and bundles.
This year seems really weaker to me.
Smash could be stronger than Mario3DWorld, but I think that the release of the 3DS version is really impacting on the Wii U version. I agree: "hardcore" gamers will probably prefer it on the Wii U, but it's not the ideal "all-in-one" game for the Holidays, to me. Not anymore, with the 3DS version out there slaughtering Smash sales records. Toad could easily be able to match DQX Wii U results, but I struggle to see in it something able to push the hardware, because it is suited for the same target other games already hit. Taiko will be the second installment of the series, and will probably sell less, and have smaller impact on HW. Up to now there is no new bundle, and this is really weird to me.

Wait, are people suggesting the n3DS is going to push the system to being up Y/Y?

The 3DS is behind Y/Y by over 1.5M YTD...
I can't see it.

EDIT: Oh, maybe I'm misreading.

Nope, as you probably have got re-reading (I think from your edit) it's just on an Oct-Dec base. I asked this because:

1) N3DS release: it will happen in line with the last quarter of the calendar year
2) I've seen people be sure about Wii U YtD 14 being higher than Wii U YtD 13

so I've put together these two things to make that question.
My answer is that I think the 3DS could sell more from Oct to Dec this year than last year, but I doubt Wii U will be able to do the same

 

[casiopao]

I don't know. Last year there was Mario 3d World, a brand new "all-in-one" exclusive game (both for hardcore and families), ideal for the Holidays Nintendo purchases; DQX+, that helped a lot in its release week; the first Taiko on the console and bundles.
This year seems really weaker to me.
Smash could be stronger than Mario3DWorld, but I think that the release of the 3DS version is really impacting on the Wii U version. I agree: "hardcore" gamers will probably prefer it on the Wii U, but it's not the ideal "all-in-one" game for the Holidays, to me. Not anymore, with the 3DS version out there slaughtering Smash sales records. Toad could easily be able to match DQX Wii U results, but I struggle to see in it something able to push the hardware, because it is suited for the same target other games already hit. Taiko will be the second installment of the series, and will probably sell less, and have smaller impact on HW. Up to now there is no new bundle, and this is really weird to me.

Well this is only my prediction here so it sure can get wrong here.^_^

But my view this year Wii U is more attractive compared to last year here.
If the bundle is like what i listed before, people would care more on this console this time as for those who haven't bought Wii U, Mario Kart 8, Smash, Toad and upcoming Mario Party is their big games to get or wait. While for so called hardcore ones, they are getting Smash, Bayonetta, Donkey, Fatal Frame or upcoming X or Devil's Third.

I see that the future and current prospect is much much better compared to last year where Ninty still tries to get those Wii party/fit demographic. This time, they simply focus on Ninty IP lover+ little niche hardcore fan.

(Sorry if my grammar is bad there.T_T)

 

[Aostia]

Well this is only my prediction here so it sure can get wrong here.^_^

But my view this year Wii U is more attractive compared to last year here.
If the bundle is like what i listed before, people would care more on this console this time as for those who haven't bought Wii U, Mario Kart 8, Smash, Toad and upcoming Mario Party is their big games to get or wait. While for so called hardcore ones, they are getting Smash, Bayonetta, Donkey, Fatal Frame or upcoming X or Devil's Third.

I see that the future and current prospect is much much better compared to last year where Ninty still tries to get those Wii party/fit demographic. This time, they simply focus on Ninty IP lover+ little niche hardcore fan.

(Sorry if my grammar is bad there.T_T)

Don't worry, nor for the prediction, neither for the grammar (mine is worst!)
I can agree on the "Wii___" crowd vs the "Nintendo IP" crowd from last to this year.
Let's see what will be the market reaction.

 

[Pennywise83]

Don't forget MK8, which will be heavily promoted by Nintendo during holidays.

People tend to forget the strength of Nintendo 1st party offering in December.

 

[Graphics Horse]

(new) 3DS needs to sell quite a lot to beat last year's Oct-Dec, like 160k 140k a week on average.

 

[casiopao]

Don't worry, nor for the prediction, neither for the grammar (mine is worst!)
I can agree on the "Wii___" crowd vs the "Nintendo IP" crowd from last to this year.
Let's see what will be the market reaction.

Wkwkwkwk.^_^ That is the main reason why i think these time, there are some chances that Wii U can grow here. and also the reason Penny said there. ninty is sure to keep pumping ads on all its big game that is already released there.

Don't forget MK8, which will be heavily promoted by Nintendo during holidays.

People tend to forget the strength of Nintendo 1st party offering in December.

Yuppy.^_^ These is one of the main thing i consider first as Ninty is surely going to keep pumping money into ads here which is going to attract kids and parents.

 

[extralite]

That would honestly be a weird direction to go with the series and I don't want them to start milking people like Tales.

How is what you want at all relevant to the discussion though? And it wouldn't be a weird direction, it is what they're doing with the current installment in the series.

There is no need to give up the companion app just because XI will be an offline game. Companion apps have existed on the PS already, FFVIII had one for example.

 

[DrWong]

Don't forget MK8, which will be heavily promoted by Nintendo during holidays.

People tend to forget the strength of Nintendo 1st party offering in December.

I agree and to add to that there's also the first DLC coming in November which will help a lot in promoting the game in a fresh way.

Also, I'm still waiting for more details - or next ND - about Amiibo and how it'll work with Smash and MK8 as well as with Cpt Toad and any offer (bundles, cross promo...) they can have related to Amiibo. Not going to be a game changer but it could have a strong impact in sales.

 

[sörine]

Almost as crazy as making TR exclusive to the Xone.

Crazier. It'd be more like making TR exclusive to Wii U.

 

[Aostia]

Also, I'm still waiting for more details - or next ND - about Amiibo and how it'll work with Smash and MK8 as well as with Cpt Toad and any offer (bundles, cross promo...) they can have related to Amiibo. Not going to be a game changer but it could have a strong impact in sales.

I wonder if we will ever have another global Wii U Direct >_<

 

[Chris1964]

02./00. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2014.09.25} (¥7.344) - 86.283 / NEW <71,96%>
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05./00. [PS3] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2014.09.25} (¥8.424) - 65.498 / NEW <77,41%>
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21./00. [PSP] Bakumatsu Rock: Ultra Soul # <ADV> (Marvelous) {2014.09.25} (¥5.724)
22./12. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V [Bargain Edition] <ACT> (Rockstar Games) {2014.06.26} (¥5.389)
23./00. [PSP] Satomi Hakkenden: Hamaji Himenoki # <ADV> (QuinRose) {2014.09.25} (¥6.480)
24./00. [PSV] Hanasaku Manimani # <ADV> (5pb.) {2014.09.25} (¥7.344)
25./13. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800)
26./23. [PS3] Persona 4: Arena Ultimax # <FTG> (Atlus) {2014.08.28} (¥7.538)
27./17. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don to Katsu no Jikuu Daibouken <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.06.26} (¥5.119)
28./15. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.08.07} (¥6.145)
29./19. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800)
30./25. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
31./14. [PS4] Samurai Warriors 4 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.09.04} (¥7.776)
32./00. [PSV] Monobeno: Pure Smile # <ADV> (HuneX) {2014.09.25} (¥7.452)
33./18. [PS3] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.08.21} (¥5.184)
34./22. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990)
35./21. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
36./20. [WIU] Hyrule Warriors # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.14} (¥7.980)
37./00. [3DS] Kouekizaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Noyryoku Kentei Kyoukai: Kanken Training <EDU> (Rocket Company) {2014.09.25} (¥4.104)
38./16. [3DS] Medarot 8: Kabuto Ver. / Kuwagata Ver. <RPG> (Rocket Company) {2014.08.28} (¥6.264)
39./27. [3DS] Pokemon Art Academy <HOB> (Nintendo) {2014.06.19} (¥3.908)
40./28. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.09.04} (¥3.024)
41./38. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.800)
42./32. [3DS] Mario Party: Island Tour <ETC> (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} (¥4.800)
43./26. [PS4] The Last of Us Remastered <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.08.21} (¥6.372)
44./00. [3DS] Tenkai Knights: Brave Battle <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.09.25} (¥5.119)
45./30. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.04.24} (¥6.664)
46./33. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters - Tokimeki Up! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2014.04.17} (¥4.936)
47./40. [3DS] Tomodachi Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800)
48./29. [PS4] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.08.21} (¥8.424)
49./36. [3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel [Ultimate Hits] <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.08.07} (¥2.700)
50./45. [PS4] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} (¥7.665)
00./00. [PS3] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥8.190) - * / 100.000
00./00. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥7.140) - * / 120.000

Top 50

3DS - 21
PS3 - 8
PSV - 8
PS4 - 5
WIU - 4
PSP - 3
WII - 1

SOFTWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    738.000 |    669.000 |    903.000 | 28.249.000 | 31.778.000 |
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[Sammy Samusu]

49./36. [3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel [Ultimate Hits] <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.08.07} (¥2.700)

Yes.

Bravely Second is going to have a great debut. Coming for that 300k FW.

 

[Chris1964]

first day sellthrough {2014.10.02}

[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX (¥7.179) + Kingdom Hearts Starter Pack: HD 1.5 + II.5 ReMIX (¥10.584) - 30-40%
[PSV] Ar Nosurge Plus: Ode to an Unborn Star (¥6.264) - 50%
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge Offline: Ushinawareta Hoshi e Sasagu Uta (¥6.264) - 50%
[PS4] Omega Quintet (Limited Edition) (¥9.698) - 30%
[XB1] Forza Horizon 2 (¥7.452) - 50%

 

[Aostia]

49./36. [3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel [Ultimate Hits] <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.08.07} (¥2.700)

Yes.

Bravely Second is going to have a great debut. Coming for that 300k FW.

Wow, so high? I'd be surprised.