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Media Create Sales: Week 46, 2013 (Nov 11 - Nov 17)
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SporeCrawler
Member
isnt comget saying pretty much nothing? its only a very small retailer chain right?
Comgnet is very good at giving a general ballpark, but nothing more than that.
Puzzle And Dragons Z is the top game on Amazon and has pretty high pre-orders on comgnet. Guess it'll be a pretty big holidays game after all.
Why this shitty trollish post? Leave that shit to other threads...
Why this shitty trollish post? Leave that shit to other threads...
*Sigh* some people just have to hold grudges I guess. Can't admit the game is fucking phenomenal. Nope. It's a copy and paste job. Of course.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Sorry, I'll use proper [sarcasm] markers next time because I guess this is something of an "on edge" time for all concerned.
gamergirly
Member
Why don't you ctrl+x some Rice for your Pie and Beans
It's not that, it's just unnecessary. Just say 3D World without the wink wink nudge nudge jokes because it just riles people up. I'm guessing it's just your type of comedy and that's fine but it can cone across as abrasive and trouble seeking at times. By all means be yourself and use your mannerisms but don't be surprised when it comes across the wrong way
It's not as though Atlus JP did a lot of big things on PSP either. I think the only original games they made on that platform were some licensed stuff that never left Japan.
That said, their apprehension towards supporting Vita is odd given the context of how the two games they've released so far have performed. After Dragon's Crown and Persona 4 Golden I expected a bit more than a rhythm game.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It's not that, it's just unnecessary. Just say 3D World without the wink wink nudge nudge jokes because it just riles people up. I'm guessing it's just your type of comedy and that's fine but it can cone across as abrasive and trouble seeking at times. By all means be yourself and use your mannerisms but don't be surprised when it comes across the wrong way
I think if people are riled up about these things, genuinely, then reflection time is in order. Its disingenuous to even pretend I've not been saying 3D World looks great in multiple threads for weeks and obvious I am not mentally challenged enough to think they just clicked a button and out popped 3D World.
But then I can only assume some sort of bat-signal went out to elicit so many replies so quickly without the sarcasm detector kicking in, so for those that hunt witches, be not surprised at the magic shows ye shall witness.
Sammy Samusu
Member
[3DS] One Piece Red - 92pt (?)
[3DS] One Piece Romance - 53pt (24.787)
Maybe around 50k?
Tsutaya takes too long to update. >.<
[3DS] One Piece Romance - 53pt (24.787)
Maybe around 50k?
Tsutaya takes too long to update. >.<
The PSP still got better treatment from Atlus than the VIta is now. Golden and DC were in development before the Vita was released which means the only Vita games they've worked on since then is this Persona dancing game and that's kinda shocking to me.
I agree. Getting angry about vidya games isn't really healthy and getting mad at someone's opinion online is even more of a fools errand. You need some woosah at that point lol. But you know we wouldn't be on a game enthusiasts forum if we didn't feel passionate about games. You're passionate about games and so am I.
I guess the game is an amazing one that happens to be on a system many like but happens to have some bad mojo surrounding it so people get defensive when people talk shit about the game because it seems unfair. All's fair in love and war I guess!
Oh please, you love to jab anything Nintendo-related with no hesitation and it even got you banned once - and now you're trying to hide your opinion behind sarcasm? :lol
That entire post that I quoted was nothing else than pointing the finger at Nintendo or past assumptions based on past circumstances - you even edited it probably because you yourself realized that it might be too shallow even for certain standards
50k start for one piece would be so disappointing, it'd be lower than Unlimited Cruise SP despite being released while the 3DS is doing much better...
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Oh please, you love to jab anything Nintendo-related with no hesitation and it even got you banned once - and now you're trying to hide your opinion behind sarcasm? :lol
That entire post that I quoted was nothing else than pointing the finger at Nintendo or past assumptions based on past circumstances - you even edited it probably because you yourself realized that it might be too shallow even for certain standards
Well since your post history has plenty of withering sarcasm I would have thought you'd be able to detect it easy, but hey, you want me gone, I get the message.
I was curious what BlackJace's prediction was but I guess it wasn't worth it since I seem to have a whole sub-community gunning for me these days. Splendid.
Sounds like a SE, Konami or Japanese third party threads these days by with different usual suspects.
Don't worry. It's all civil in here. Nothing to see here. Honest. Look! Over there!
Sucker fell for it >
Let's hope 3D World sells well :$
Er, a prediction for me would be around 160-175k I guess.
Uh, you're free to feel that way, but I don't agree with that.
2004:
Nothing
2005:
Princess Crown
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
2006:
Nothing
2007:
Nothing
2008:
Nothing
Compared to Vita:
2011:
Nothing
2012:
Persona 4 Golden
2013:
Dragon's Crown
2014:
Persona 4 Dancing All Night
ambientmystic
Member
The coolest people get banned.
Sigh, now all that's left to provide some balance and perspective in these threads is shinra-bansho. Hope that wasn't a perma for Pie and Beans, I really enjoy his scathing commentary in these threads, he just went a bit overboard this time around.
I guess it's a slow start for both One Piece and Aikatsu. Shame on One Piece as the game really is very good. Translating Japanese reviews it looks like it being 2D only is a factor. Aikatsu should be fine over the holiday period. Pleased for Mario.
And I wonder if hearing how amazing it is will benefit Zelda's sales in Japan or Japan is oblivious to Western media?
And I wonder if hearing how amazing it is will benefit Zelda's sales in Japan or Japan is oblivious to Western media?
leatherhat
Member
I think he is only comparing their first years on the market
Aquamarine
Member
Code:
[B][U]Tsutaya Software Sales Rankings: Week 47, 2013 (Nov 18 - Nov 24) Comgnet Software Sales Rankings: Week 47, 2013 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)[/U][/B]
[b]01./NEW [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/b] [b]01. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII – 555pt[/b]
[b]02./NEW [WIU] Super Mario 3D World[/b] [b]02. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World – 164pt[/b]
03./02. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 03. [PSP] God Eater 2 – 95pt
[b]04./NEW [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red[/b] [b]04. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red – 92pt[/b]
05./01. [PSV] God Eater 2 05. [PSV] God Eater 2 – 89pt
06./03. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts (Subtitled Edition) 06. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts (Subtitled Edition) – 86pt
07./04. [PSP] God Eater 2 07. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 – 68pt
08./08. [3DS] Pokémon X [b]08. [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package – 65pt[/b]
09./10. [3DS] Pokémon Y [b]09. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess – 52pt[/b]
10./12. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 10. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 – 35pt
[b]11./NEW [3DS] Aikatsu! Futari no My Princess[/b] 11. [3DS] Pokémon X – 34pt
12./11. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V 12. [PS3] Batttlefield 4 – 33pt
[b]13./NEW [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package[/b] 13. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V – 28pt
14./06. [PS3] Battlefield 4 14. [3DS] Diagasso! Band Brothers P – 26pt
15./05. [3DS] Diagasso! Band Brothers P [b]15. [PS3] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari – 22pt[/b]
16./09. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 16. [3DS] Pokémon Y – 22pt
17./07. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 17. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 – 18pt
[b]18./NEW [PSV] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari[/b] 18. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 – 18pt
[b]19./NEW [PS3] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari[/b] [b]19. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! – 16pt[/b]
20./14. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 [b]20. [PSV] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari – 15pt[/b]
[B]* New releases are in bold * 1 pt = 1 sale
PS3 - 8 PS3 - 7
3DS - 6 3DS - 6
PSP - 3 PSP - 3
PSV - 2 WIU - 2
WIU - 1 PSV - 2[/B]
[b][U]New releases not present in either Top 20:[/U]
[3DS] Cooking Mama 5
[3DS] Resident Evil: Revelations (Best Price!)
[3DS] Magician's Quest: Magical Town (Special Pack)
[PSP] Hanasaku Manimani
[PSP] Hanasaku Manimani (Limited Edition)
[PSP] Snow Bound Land
[PSP] Snow Bound Land (Limited Edition)
[PS3] Hanasaku Manimani
[PS3] Hanasaku Manimani (Limited Edition)
[360] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/b]For the people who aren't regulars in Media Create threads:
What is Tsutaya?
Tsutaya is a major retailer with 1,444 retail stores (613 that sell new games) all across Japan.
What is Comgnet?
Comgnet is the website for the retailer "COMG!" that has 16 retail stores across one prefecture in Japan.
Why post these rankings?
They are released three days before Media Create + Famitsu + Dengeki give us nationwide sales, so we get a general indication of how well the games will perform relative to their competition.
How accurate is Tsutaya compared to nationwide retail tracking services?
It's large enough that it gives a very probable indication of future sales rankings, but it's not large enough to be definitive.
Famitsu: ~3,600 stores
Media Create + Dengeki: >3,000 stores
Tsutaya: 613 stores
Comgnet: 16 stores
2013 Tsutaya + Comgnet Weekly Sales Archive
1st Course
Member
Taiko < 10k this week probably.
T
thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
That certainly falls in line with the ballpark of 50k for 20% first day sell through number before adding up the sales for the rest of the week. It'd be quite surprising to see it end up much higher than 150k on Wednesday.
At least that completely discounts any worry of japan going insane by selling less Mario 3D World in Winter than Pikmin 3 in Summer, but it doesn't seem like 3D World is going to be the game to maintain Wii U momentum all the way to Mario Kart. It'll do ok for the next 5 weeks, but ok isn't good enough when you need a genuine miracle.
Fair enough. I'm mostly just hoping it will have a Gamecube or PS3 style first year in Japan, not a Wii U one, so that a later turnaround to decent numbers would be conceivable, not impossible. I guess I'm hoping that line up is more diverse and are made up of genres that didn't leave for 3DS and mobile, and the hardware more appealing. It's certainly not an incredible lineup though.
I feel confident saying that cross gen ports won't be huge a problem for XBO/PS4 in the west, but I do worry if that will be enough in the east.
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm still expecting around ~1.5x Pikmin. I'm not sure if that's considered optimistic or pessimistic though.
hummm... taiko... dont fail on me.
damn. it didnt deserve that. such a nice game. lets end this week and hope for the best in the next ones.
edit. and now, even the last taiko on wii is higher on amazon is higher than the wiiu version. what a shame. i hope the people that bought mario 3d will want to try other things after finishing cause this is ridiculous.
damn. it didnt deserve that. such a nice game. lets end this week and hope for the best in the next ones.
edit. and now, even the last taiko on wii is higher on amazon is higher than the wiiu version. what a shame. i hope the people that bought mario 3d will want to try other things after finishing cause this is ridiculous.
Aquamarine
Member
First Week Sales (Comgnet Ranking)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 1883pt (2009年11月30日～2009年12月6日 (936,734 first week)
New Super Mario Bros. - 1720pt (2006年5月22日～2006年5月28日 (865,024 first week)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 706pt (2012年7月23日～2012年7月29日 (430,185 first week)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 641pt (2010年5月24日～2010年5月30日 (337,569 first week)
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 591pt (2013年3月18日～2013年3月24日 (301,080 first week)
Super Mario 3D Land - 553pt (2011年10月31日～2011年11月6日 (344,698 first week)
Super Mario Sunshine (280,610 first week)
Super Mario Galaxy - 378pt (2007年10月29日～2007年11月4日 (256,341 first week)
Super Mario 3D World - 164pt (2013年11月18日〜2013年11月24日
Pikmin 3 - 144pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日 (102,188 first week)
New Super Mario Bros. U - 138pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日 (170,563 first week)
Nintendo Land - 57pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日 (78,461 first week)
New Super Luigi U - 33pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日 (27,312 first week)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 1883pt (2009年11月30日～2009年12月6日
(936,734 first week)New Super Mario Bros. - 1720pt (2006年5月22日～2006年5月28日
(865,024 first week)New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 706pt (2012年7月23日～2012年7月29日
(430,185 first week)Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 641pt (2010年5月24日～2010年5月30日
(337,569 first week)Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 591pt (2013年3月18日～2013年3月24日
(301,080 first week)Super Mario 3D Land - 553pt (2011年10月31日～2011年11月6日
(344,698 first week)Super Mario Sunshine (280,610 first week)
Super Mario Galaxy - 378pt (2007年10月29日～2007年11月4日
(256,341 first week)Super Mario 3D World - 164pt (2013年11月18日〜2013年11月24日
Pikmin 3 - 144pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日
(102,188 first week)New Super Mario Bros. U - 138pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日
(170,563 first week)Nintendo Land - 57pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日
(78,461 first week)New Super Luigi U - 33pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日
(27,312 first week)opticalmace
Member
First Week Sales (Comgnet Ranking)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 1883pt (2009年11月30日～2009年12月6日
New Super Mario Bros. - 1720pt (2006年5月22日～2006年5月28日
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 706pt (2012年7月23日～2012年7月29日
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 641pt (2010年5月24日～2010年5月30日
Super Mario 3D Land - 553pt (2011年10月31日～2011年11月6日
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 591pt (2013年3月18日～2013年3月24日
Super Mario Sunshine (280,610 first week)
Super Mario Galaxy - 378pt (2007年10月29日～2007年11月4日
Super Mario 3D World - 164pt (2013年11月18日〜2013年11月24日
Pikmin 3 - 144pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日
New Super Mario Bros. U - 138pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日
Nintendo Land - 57pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日
New Super Luigi U - 33pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日
Thanks for the data.
metalslimer
Member
Yeah I figured Taiko was way too low even for a game with legs. It might squeeze out over 50k after the holidays...maybe. 3D World may break 150k at least, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. Kind of a terrible looking situation, but the holidays are coming.
Aquamarine
Member
First Week Sales (Comgnet Ranking)
[NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Touch de Dokodon (2007-07-26) (2007年7月23日～2007年7月29日 - 207pt (89,158 first week) (641,229 total)
[NDS] Metcha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Nanatsu no Shima no Daibouken (2008-04-24) (2008年4月21日～2008年4月27日 - 145pt (60,250 first week) (693,164 total)
[NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!! (2010-07-01) (2010年6月28日～2010年7月4日 - 146pt (65,214 first week) (393,279 total)
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (2008-12-11) (2008年12月8日～2008年12月14日 - 250pt (114,610 first week) (658,783 total)
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Do Don to 2 Daime (2009-11-19) (2009年11月16日～2009年11月22日 - 44pt standalone, 26pt bundle (29,349 first week) (430,096 total)
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Minna de Party 3 Daime (2010-12-02) (2010年11月29日～2010年12月5日 - 42pt standalone, <33pt bundle (26,855 first week) (270,672 total)
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition (2011-11-23) (2011年11月21日～2011年11月27日 - 43pt standalone, <27pt bundle (25,343 first week) (320,770 total)
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition (2012-11-29) (2012年11月26日～2012年12月2日 - 67pt standalone, 122pt bundle (102,437 first week) (570,969 total)
[3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb (2012-07-12) (2012年7月9日～2012年7月15日 - 133pt (63,388 first week) (508,376 total)
[WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! (2013-11-21) (2013年11月18日～2013年11月24日 - 16pt standalone, <15pt bundle
[NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Touch de Dokodon (2007-07-26) (2007年7月23日～2007年7月29日
- 207pt (89,158 first week) (641,229 total)[NDS] Metcha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Nanatsu no Shima no Daibouken (2008-04-24) (2008年4月21日～2008年4月27日
- 145pt (60,250 first week) (693,164 total)[NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!! (2010-07-01) (2010年6月28日～2010年7月4日
- 146pt (65,214 first week) (393,279 total)[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (2008-12-11) (2008年12月8日～2008年12月14日
- 250pt (114,610 first week) (658,783 total)[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Do Don to 2 Daime (2009-11-19) (2009年11月16日～2009年11月22日
- 44pt standalone, 26pt bundle (29,349 first week) (430,096 total)[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Minna de Party 3 Daime (2010-12-02) (2010年11月29日～2010年12月5日
- 42pt standalone, <33pt bundle (26,855 first week) (270,672 total)[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition (2011-11-23) (2011年11月21日～2011年11月27日
- 43pt standalone, <27pt bundle (25,343 first week) (320,770 total)[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition (2012-11-29) (2012年11月26日～2012年12月2日
- 67pt standalone, 122pt bundle (102,437 first week) (570,969 total)[3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb (2012-07-12) (2012年7月9日～2012年7月15日
- 133pt (63,388 first week) (508,376 total)[WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! (2013-11-21) (2013年11月18日～2013年11月24日
- 16pt standalone, <15pt bundle
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
ShellyDeKiller
Member
That's not really notable...
But the series sells well in Japan traditionally, and this time there isn't a 3DS version right?
Sales wise it might be.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Guys a full on joker lol. You can usually tell by his first sentence if the post is a joke post or genuine. I think what happened there was Poe's law because there were genuinely some people that think 3d world is a copy and paste of 3d land.
First Week Sales (Comgnet Ranking)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 1883pt (2009年11月30日～2009年12月6日
New Super Mario Bros. - 1720pt (2006年5月22日～2006年5月28日
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 706pt (2012年7月23日～2012年7月29日
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 641pt (2010年5月24日～2010年5月30日
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 591pt (2013年3月18日～2013年3月24日
Super Mario 3D Land - 553pt (2011年10月31日～2011年11月6日
Super Mario Sunshine (280,610 first week)
Super Mario Galaxy - 378pt (2007年10月29日～2007年11月4日
Super Mario 3D World - 164pt (2013年11月18日〜2013年11月24日
Pikmin 3 - 144pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日
New Super Mario Bros. U - 138pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日
Nintendo Land - 57pt (2012年12月3日～2012年12月9日
New Super Luigi U - 33pt (2013年7月8日～2013年7月14日
First Week Sales (Comgnet Ranking)
[NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Touch de Dokodon (2007-07-26) (2007年7月23日～2007年7月29日
[NDS] Metcha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Nanatsu no Shima no Daibouken (2008-04-24) (2008年4月21日～2008年4月27日
[NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!! (2010-07-01) (2010年6月28日～2010年7月4日
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (2008-12-11) (2008年12月8日～2008年12月14日
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Do Don to 2 Daime (2009-11-19) (2009年11月16日～2009年11月22日
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Minna de Party 3 Daime (2010-12-02) (2010年11月29日～2010年12月5日
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition (2011-11-23) (2011年11月21日～2011年11月27日
[WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition (2012-11-29) (2012年11月26日～2012年12月2日
[3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb (2012-07-12) (2012年7月9日～2012年7月15日
[WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! (2013-11-21) (2013年11月18日〜2013年11月24日
150k opening for 3D world. Definitely going to be the worst selling entry not that its a surprise.
Even with amazing legs that Taiko number looks poor.
pieatorium
Member
is 5 years enough to build up a tradition? Mario itself is down on wiiu and the last winter one had a pretty big droppoff even when the wii and ds were still strong.
I think the dq xpac will probably do better, at least initially
D
Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
please tell me more
If we really want to apply Comgnet for proportions, One Piece should be between 53k and 60k (IIRC, one of them stated that Romance Dawn debuted with 26k), and that's without bundles considered. I could see One Piece doing 75-80k, with bundles included, for its first week. If that's the case, I'd define that a discrete launch, but the game would still need good legs for putting good numbers overall.
Attack on Titans could overperform: it has already more pts on Comgnet than One Piece XD
Attack on Titans could overperform: it has already more pts on Comgnet than One Piece XD
The Dragon Quest X 1.5 version in december 5th (also on Wii). That's all for this year.
Has this been mentioned here before? Sony is getting aggressive by releasing two new Vita Value Packs on December 5th for 22,000 yen MSRP each. They come with a 16GB card and carrying pouch. White/Lime Green or White/Light Blue:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00GIF1MQM/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00GIF1MP8/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00GIF1MQM/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00GIF1MP8/
michaelius
Banned
That MH MMO isn't this year ?
Wouldn't exactly call that "aggressive" tbh.
Does it coincide with a game release, though?