Always-honest
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damn.. i rather see the game looking better than PR and in 720P.plagiarize said:
Motorstorm Apocalypse Review thread
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Indeed MSA looks awesome in 3D. It was the first time I was using my TV for 3D gaming, and while it was a bit strange at time (the HUD is still in 2d so your eyes have to adjust to read it, mostly), it was darn impressive too.
Less crosstalk than what I feared too, which was a nice surprise.
Less crosstalk than what I feared too, which was a nice surprise.
plagiarize
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Eurogamer mentioned crosstalk was minimal too, better than Killzone 3. there are a couple of spots in 3D Rift where it bother me, but nothing major. again i've been hoping that they'd avoid the same kind of high contrast spots that really show crosstalk since this was built ground up for 3D.Blimblim said:
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
What's your opinion about the demo Beedog? Too be honest, your opinion is the only one on GAF I give a shit about when it comes to MS since no one on this forum knows how to enjoy/play/stop listening to their fucking nostalgia heart.
Don't wanna play the demo so that I don't ruin the experience when the full game comes out.
Don't wanna play the demo so that I don't ruin the experience when the full game comes out.
Yoshichan said:
<3
As Loudninja shows above, I'm liking it so far. The chaos in the level is offset by the fact that the handling is a bit more forgiving (so bumping on some geometry won't instantly kill you). The camera seems a bit more spastic this time around, but I chalk this up to the abundance of tunnels and narrower areas than in PR. The boosting system is also a bit different; it overheats faster, but it also cools down MUCH faster, especially if you pass water.
My only recommendation is for you to actually try the demo yourself.
It doesn't really spoil too much, to be honest, and you'll get a feel for the handling model. Personally I think it still feels like MotorStorm, which was one of my worries.ClovingWestbrook
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Liked the first, LOOOOOOOOOVED the second, have no interest in this one. Visually its not as impressive as either of its predecessors. It looks much more linear in terms of the different pathways you can take. Just looks like they phoned it in IMO.
plagiarize
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it's got to be. i never saw this happen and comfortably beat most of the late events first or second try. i didn't see the AI at all on the mammoth final race after taking first.GreatSage said:
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
This is VERY interesting.BeeDog said:
Ok I might try the demo out then! It will be soooooooo good!BeeDog said:My only recommendation is for you to actually try the demo yourself.
LovingSteam said:
About the visuals, I don't really agree. Pacific Rift had some really great locales, but this one is very impressive in its own right, though the appeal of urban environments is subjective. The image quality seems much better in MS3, the amount of shit that's shown on screen is staggering (all that debris!), the textures are better and the motion blur, while toned down from MS2, is still present and impressive. Also, the demo level isn't as freeform as the levels in MS2, but it still provides a challenge due to the destruction.
Yoshichan: plz don't kill me if it turns out you dislike the demo/game. :<
plagiarize
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reviews clearly indicate that it's still full of alternate routes and some even go so far as to say it has too many, so yeah, at least on that point, what we've seen so far has been deceiving i guess. it was one of my worries too, but the reviews say emphatically otherwise.LovingSteam said:
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Haha, don't worry about it! If I'm not enjoying the demo, it's most likely because they kinda sucks at making demos (look at the original MS and Pacific Rift) - I'll end up buying the full game anyway and love it <3BeeDog said:
RoadHazard
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I'm not the least bit worried about a few lower ratings. Pacific Rift got quite a few of those, and it's my favorite off-road racing game ever.
Downloading the demo now, hoping it will convince me (although the first demo for PR wasn't really representative of the full game at all).
Downloading the demo now, hoping it will convince me (although the first demo for PR wasn't really representative of the full game at all).
GreatSage said:
It happened at least 3 times in different events so it's not a bug, it's a feature.
And like Motorstorm, Hot Pursuit also has the same problem where the only part of the race that really matters is the last third, because in the first 2/3rds you can't gain a big lead even if you drive perfectly.
AltogetherAndrews
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Yeah, I have like zero faith in the review crew when it comes to Motorstorm. PR was a massive improvement over Motorstorm in every way, was completely unique and controlled like a dream, yet seemed to have trouble impressing critics everywhere. One of the major magazines even complained about the sense of speed. Awesome arcade racer dubbed lukewarm, what can you do.
As for the rubberbanding, I guess it irks me less in Motorstorm than in other racers simply because it sort of makes the most of it by keeping you in the thick of the action with ample destruction. Maybe I'm just not good enough at the game to be irked by the artificial difficulty, but I do like slamming into things and watching wrecks come tumbling by.
As for the rubberbanding, I guess it irks me less in Motorstorm than in other racers simply because it sort of makes the most of it by keeping you in the thick of the action with ample destruction. Maybe I'm just not good enough at the game to be irked by the artificial difficulty, but I do like slamming into things and watching wrecks come tumbling by.
plagiarize
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i never saw it happen once. what events did you see this happen in? i haven't finished the cop campaign yet, but i finished the racer campaign.NHale said:
it definately has rubber banding, and it doesn't even hide it as it takes cars off the map, but are you sure it spawned them in front of you rather than them taking shortcuts etc?
i never had the feeling that if i crashed in the last third or a race that i may as well quit, which the first two motorstorm games regularly gave me. i know it artificially keeps the pack close to me because i can see the cars jumping further up the track on the mini map, but it never once dropped someone in front of me in a race. never.
that said, the rubber banding in Motorstorm hasn't previously killed my enjoyment of the series, it's just something that needs improving upon, and hopefully that's what they've done. kept it in a bit to keep the pack closer together, but not got it at the point where you're done with a single mistake on the last lap.
AltogetherAndrews
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plagiarize said:
For sure, it could use some heavy tweaking, but the heart is in the right place. Or something.
SLEEPS7ALK3R
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First impressions:
The game is awesome. Buy it.
The game is awesome. Buy it.
Fortinbras
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NHale said:
Never happened to me. It's not just the AI. As someone said already it's very easy to crash in a MotorStorm game. That makes the rubberband AI so infuriating. MotorStorm's rubberband AI is the worst of its kind and it just kills the fun.
Hmm. I'm away from my 3dtv for a few days, so I'll have to wait to see that. It is defaulting to 1080 on the plasma I'm using on vacation, and it looks good. This is intriguing, and hopefully DF does a nice long write up.
I'll be picking this up for sure. I think it looks better than PR at first glance, but I didn't try it in 720, which I need to. Control wise it felt too easy, but the first two were too difficult, so im glad the changed it somewhat
I'll be picking this up for sure. I think it looks better than PR at first glance, but I didn't try it in 720, which I need to. Control wise it felt too easy, but the first two were too difficult, so im glad the changed it somewhat
plagiarize
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i'd be happy if they've removed the 'auto self destruct button' from the tops of the vehicles too. it's not a big deal if they haven't, but my fingers remain crossed for that.Fortinbras said:
Fortinbras said:
It's very easy when you are going full throttle all the time. It's better when you are driving more carefully and you know the course very well. Rubberbanding was bad in 1, ok in 2 and 3 will be just fine I guess. In the demo I didn't have any problem. It's fun.
plagiarize
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i played 3d rift at 100%. there was noticeable crosstalk on anything that was very dark in colour next to something bright, but overall i thought the stronger effect was worth it. i'm hoping to try this out tonight PSN maintenance not sabotaging me. i have a Sony HX800.Psykotik said:
plagiarize
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this makes me very happy.nofi said:
Phoenician_Viking
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I liked the demo. Driving the motorcycle is a lot of fun.
Thrakier said:
No,rubberband AI is never ok or fine,weak or strong rubberband it's just bullshit.
It's like in a fighting game, if you too skilled and good the game give the AI character invincibility just to match you,this is just cheat and stupid ,and when a game don't reward you for your skills then it worth absolutely nothing.
plagiarize
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3D rift was the first thing i played in 120 hz shutter glasses 3D and i thought that looked great despite the obvious concessions made to get it working. what's the framerate at 720p? i'm presuming 30 fps.nofi said:
the best looking thing i've seen on PC has been probably Mirrors Edge, Dead Rising 2 or Fallout 3, but i keep going back to 3D Rift. the iq may be poor, but the thrill is tangible and it makes the game better in more ways that Wipeout or Killzone 3. with (reportedly) native 720p this really sounds like the 3D showpiece on any platform that i'll be demoing the new TV set to my friends with.
RoadHazard
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Tried the demo, enjoyed it! I think it may become a bit too chaotic at times, but I can live with that.
As always with MS games, the hood cam is king. The game is (just like MSPR) much more intense and fun from that view.
Not sure what I think of the new control method. I'll probably stick to "Classic" (I like having my handbrake on Circle).
As always with MS games, the hood cam is king. The game is (just like MSPR) much more intense and fun from that view.
Not sure what I think of the new control method. I'll probably stick to "Classic" (I like having my handbrake on Circle).
lowrider007
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There's a demo out?, which store/region?
With regards to the reviews scores thus far I actually expected them to be lower so I'm pleasantly surprised.
With regards to the reviews scores thus far I actually expected them to be lower so I'm pleasantly surprised.
LordPhoque
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Is the demo available on the EU PSN ?
I loved MSPR and thought it was extremely underrated, except from the shitty rubber rand at the end. I'm on the fence about MSA though, from what I've seen the tracks design is really dull and I don't really like the new orientation. So this demo could make or break the deal to me...
I loved MSPR and thought it was extremely underrated, except from the shitty rubber rand at the end. I'm on the fence about MSA though, from what I've seen the tracks design is really dull and I don't really like the new orientation. So this demo could make or break the deal to me...
plagiarize
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EU PSN, yes.