Randolph Freelander
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Post his game 5 stats.
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NBA 2017 Playoffs |OT| WE DID IT
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Post his game 5 stats.
friskykillface
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Had Draymond not shown up that game 7 the Warriors would have gotten blown out lol.
Terrible showing by Klay x Steph
Terrible showing by Klay x Steph
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LyleLanley
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I swear to god if Ainge trades the pick for fucking Andre Drummond I will kill him myself.
I would've been all about it 2 years ago, but now? With how he's stalled or even regressed? Nah pass.
I should have you fired for allowing this discussion to happen
friskykillface
Banned
Zeller > Drummond
RandomSeed
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I'm a Pistons fan, and I don't even know why people would want Drummond. Huge contract for someone that only seems to care about getting rebounds, and the occasional dunk. He doesn't play hard defense, slow to get back, doesn't block much for his size, has the most basic offensive/post game to the point he can't take advantage of a mismatch, free throw shooting so bad that it benches him in the clutch, and just overall it doesn't come across as he actually loves the game, and has the passion to be great, or even improve.
Cap gonna go up at least once more, maybe another time
Ain't worried bout that
Also again the man is how old? Oh yeah 23
Not 28
Twenty Three
Yep. Dude has some serious potential. But, it really seems like he doesn't want to try or isn't motivated.
When he is motivated he's a great player. Plays good defense, can take advantage of situations, grabs every single rebound. But he just disappears in games, just lacks motivation or something.
Idk, maybe a good coach can help push him to be better, he's got a lot of potential. Problem is that he doesn't seem to want to improve.
Edit: is there a rumor he's going to be traded or are we just speculating?
even still paying him like a superstar makes no sense as the pistons fan pointed out. He gets a lot of rebounds, but he has huge lapses on defense and is a disaster on offense. He also is susceptible to the hack-a strategy so he can't be relied on down the stretch. If he was on the trajectory he was in his first two years I'd be all for it. He was a defensive monster while also putting up monster rebound numbers.
He's only 23, you speaking like he can't improve anymore. Most folks ain't in they peak till 25/26. Fourth Quarter comes slide Horford to 5 and post someome at 4. Hell make it Jae and have Brown at 3.
oh yeah well that's why i think they get swept. they play worse D and the warriors are improved on offense.
PadWarrior
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SLAM Magazine @SLAMonline
Durant says he's not to blame for NBA's parity problem.
"Am I the reason Brooklyn gave all their picks to Boston?"
Durant says he's not to blame for NBA's parity problem.
"Am I the reason Brooklyn gave all their picks to Boston?"
No I'm not saying he can't improve, I'm saying you don't pay that particular guy on potential after what he's shown in the last year and a half.
Walter White
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Bitch went to an already loaded roster. Of course he's part of the problem.
LyleLanley
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I want to fire myself after reading that discussion.
Yep. And smfh @ still blaming KD for anything. He made the right decision.
And with this Drummond discussion, Horford at the 4 isn't a great solution either. http://www.celticslife.com/2017/01/video-breaking-down-al-horfords.html
He made a good decision
That's fair
I just liked someone like him or Nerlens on the Celtics at the 5 and Horford at the 4
I have to say I don't care that KD went to the Warriors but his attitude since leaving has changed my view on him. He just comes across angry more so than ever before.
Huh
Playing up the villain huh
Like someone did when they first went to Miami huh
Interesting
thehypocrite
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🙄🤔🤔🤔
Noone is celebrating his finals trips. It is a cool thing to notice but its like surpassing all-time legends on a scoring list. Its a cool thing to notice but not necessarily celebrated. 7 Trips is an accomplishment no matter what you think about the East but its just a momentary compliment.
Personally this MJ v Lebron argument is such nonsense. Different players, style, eras, and teams. MJ is 6 for 6 and if that is your only measure for #1 than I don't think any player ever is going to top that. If that alone makes him the greatest than so be it. Its a legit argument.
Lebron can also be considered one of the best ever or the GOAT regardless of his finals record because context matters.
LyleLanley
Banned
Billy King is the true villain.
what, was he supposed to say "no thank you" to the most talented team in the league and good money? don't hate the player, hate the game.
Not sure about fit, Brad's system is flexible but he really values skilled bigs that can stretch defenders to the perimeter and move the ball around. They need rebounding help, but not at the expense of those other elements from the position.
Cornbread78
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Dude needs to STFU. He's a good dude, but went bitch mode and went to the team with the best roster in basketball already...
He ain't do nothing wrong
I feel like as long as he had the pieces to play 4 out it'd be more than fine
LyleLanley
Banned
No more talking about Drummond to the Celtics. It makes me sad. Just bring over Zizic and hope he can rebound better than anyone we have now.
He maybe is part of it, but he's also right. It's not because of him that teams like the Knicks and Nets are shitty organizations right now and that teams like Philly are in perpetual tank mode.
They'll have Zizic to mess around with in that role situationally next season, interested to see what kind of lineups he's used in. A lot cheaper than Drummond at least.
Cornbread78
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LyleLanley
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Looks like we've succeeded already then.
yeah that could work, I'll admit I have no idea who zizic is though lol
He's all our hopes and dreams for a C, until the 2018 Nets pick at least
Drummond is such a bad fit for the Celtics, I don't even understand this discussion.
Have you watched them play? They thrive because of the spacing and versatility that Horford provides at the C position. Bringing in a guy who needs to be under the basket to be successful would be a huge issue. IT couldn't get to the rack because of the clogged paint and Horford would be forced to cover 4s. The Celtics need to find a rebounding 4 who can stretch the floor, not an old fashioned center.
Have you watched them play? They thrive because of the spacing and versatility that Horford provides at the C position. Bringing in a guy who needs to be under the basket to be successful would be a huge issue. IT couldn't get to the rack because of the clogged paint and Horford would be forced to cover 4s. The Celtics need to find a rebounding 4 who can stretch the floor, not an old fashioned center.
that sounds more like a horford problem
The Greek Freak
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Just realized how fucked the Grizzlies have been.
Every year they were healthy in the playoffs they would have been the best non Lebron playoff team from 2011-2017.
Sucks so much they are stuck in the west and we missed out on like 5-6 awesome series that would've been better than watching Lebron wreck trash squads.
Every year they were healthy in the playoffs they would have been the best non Lebron playoff team from 2011-2017.
Sucks so much they are stuck in the west and we missed out on like 5-6 awesome series that would've been better than watching Lebron wreck trash squads.
LyleLanley
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The Adriatic League top prospect winner last year. Previous winners include Nikola Jokic and Dario Saric. There's no way this guy isn't DPOY by the end of his rookie year.
Also that too
Ok? Replace IT with Fultz and the issue remains. Drummond doesn't fit Stevens' offense.
It sounds more like a "we don't need an ineffective defender who can't stretch the floor at the C" problem.
LyleLanley
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How is that a Horford problem? Drummond clearly doesn't fit in Stevens' system. Also, he isn't good.
the great coaches build around what they have, they don't force a certain type of offense on a personnel group if it doesn't fit. brad is a great coach. also every center doesn't need to be a stretch 5.
it sounded like moving him to the 4 would be an issue
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