Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Tony Northrup goes over the new 5D and talks about the video capabilities a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwAvqcbLRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwAvqcbLRw
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NeoGAF Camera Equipment Thread | MK II
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Hey guys, need help on 1st time camera purchase.
I'm looking for a DSLR for around ~$500+. I have no experience with camera's so I guess a point and shoot would be what I'm looking for? Mainly want to take baby pictures/trips. Big plus would be to transfer the images to phone wireless (is this possible?)
Right now I'm looking at the Nikon Coolpix P900 mainly because that zoom is unbelievable and I'm blown away by what that can do.
I'm looking for a DSLR for around ~$500+. I have no experience with camera's so I guess a point and shoot would be what I'm looking for? Mainly want to take baby pictures/trips. Big plus would be to transfer the images to phone wireless (is this possible?)
Right now I'm looking at the Nikon Coolpix P900 mainly because that zoom is unbelievable and I'm blown away by what that can do.
JadedWriter
Member
"An hour of 4K video is 226gbs." Fuck that fucking horse shit.
doing some reading and thinking...
As far as video on the 5D4, I think I'm fine with 1080p video. I do 95% photography anyways. 4K still feels extremely niche. That may not be the case in 3 or so years, but I'm ok with that now. Obviously if you are a videographer this isn't the camera for you. It's perfect for me as a "sometimes" filmmaker.
1080p HDR and the new dual pixel video auto-focus system should be an impressive jump in quality over my 5D2 video.
As far as video on the 5D4, I think I'm fine with 1080p video. I do 95% photography anyways. 4K still feels extremely niche. That may not be the case in 3 or so years, but I'm ok with that now. Obviously if you are a videographer this isn't the camera for you. It's perfect for me as a "sometimes" filmmaker.
1080p HDR and the new dual pixel video auto-focus system should be an impressive jump in quality over my 5D2 video.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That does seem a bit much. Maybe they can upgrade the firmware later to optimize it to a better codec. That is, if the CPU can handle it.
sankt-Antonio
Banned
Dosnt that kind of file size render the 4K video of the camera useless? What kind of monster rig would one need to handle these files?
does seem a little silly.
5D2 launched with gimped video features and people complained and Canon released a big firmware update. Maybe something similar is possible here.
Krauser Kat
Member
i had almost three hours of 4k tripod video from my GH4 under 200gbs. wtf is that file size.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Ive finally decided on a D500 (Nikon)
What lenses would people recommend? I ideally want to buy 3, one for landscapes one for portraits/ street photography and a general all purpose lens.
What lenses would people recommend? I ideally want to buy 3, one for landscapes one for portraits/ street photography and a general all purpose lens.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Lmao
They need to release a separate SSD or 2.5" HDD housing that connects to the body. Even then if hate managing files that size.
You don't need a monster rig, my laptop handles 4k fine using Premiere Pro. It's not like you're working with a single 400gb file, you're working mostly with a bunch of short(er) clips.
And for me, I mainly only shoot 4k when I don't have enough lens to get me somewhere. I only have a single 64gb cfast card, which only allows me about 8 minutes of 4k/60 footage.
I'll also shoot 4k if it's an important moment, like the final putt of a championship (I work in golf). Otherwise I shoot 1080/60/120 and love every second of it.
JadedWriter
Member
One of the main reasons why I don't touch video for freelance stuff is I have no idea how I'd even share it with the person.
so brerwolfe, are you ever asked to submit a 4K file for anything? Or do you pretty much only have one client for your golf stuff and they require 1080p?
in 2016 4K still feels like a marketing thing.
also, on the last page I posted a link to an article comparing the 1D X Mark II video with the 1DC.
Under image quality, they say this about the 1D X Mark II:
"Unfortunately, the HD mode of the Canon 1D X mark II is really disappointing. Aliasing is strong and the image is very soft. It can hardly be considered an HD image and is barely suitable for an old tube television. The Canon 1D C, on the other hand had a S35 crop mode that delivered a very nice HD image."
I assume by "HD mode" they mean 1080p video as opposed to 4K. Do you agree with this? "Really disappointing" "soft image" "strong aliasing" "barely suitable for an old tube TV"?? That seems bizarre.
in 2016 4K still feels like a marketing thing.
also, on the last page I posted a link to an article comparing the 1D X Mark II video with the 1DC.
Under image quality, they say this about the 1D X Mark II:
"Unfortunately, the HD mode of the Canon 1D X mark II is really disappointing. Aliasing is strong and the image is very soft. It can hardly be considered an HD image and is barely suitable for an old tube television. The Canon 1D C, on the other hand had a S35 crop mode that delivered a very nice HD image."
I assume by "HD mode" they mean 1080p video as opposed to 4K. Do you agree with this? "Really disappointing" "soft image" "strong aliasing" "barely suitable for an old tube TV"?? That seems bizarre.
Astral/H3X
Member
Could be a less compressed codec. Anyone who has tried downloading movies knows that not all 1080p is equal.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Still mjpeg for 4k? yikes
This is the first thing I ever shot after buying it, and if there's anything wrong with it maybe it could be blamed on my export settings (low bitrate/h264), but I think it looks great.
https://vimeo.com/168710906/a6b454c540
And as far as 4k deliverables, at the end of every work week I create different melts for the client. So I'll make a 1080/60 sequence for B-roll and pressers, and then for the 8-10 4k shots I gather on the weekend I'll make a 4k sequence and lay them down. Then the PGA Tour takes the hard drive, opens the sequence back at home base and does whatever they do to archive everything.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What's your budget, and which of the three is most important to you?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
If you're not opposed to manual focusing, the Nikkor 105/2.5 AI is phenomenal. Of course MF shooting is a little more involved and slower but that can also be beneficial for portraiture which it excels at. Just to give an idea of its pedigree, its the lens that helped capture this famous portrait...
It can be found for around $250. Well worth the money.
Lys Skygge
Member
I have that lensIf you're not opposed to manual focusing, the Nikkor 105/2.5 AI is phenomenal. Of course MF shooting is a little more involved and slower but that can also be beneficial for portraiture which it excels at. Just to give an idea of its pedigree, its the lens that helped capture this famous portrait...
It can be found for around $250. Well worth the money.
.Anyways, my tripod of 6 years is on its last legs, so I'm on the market for a new one.
Can anyone recommend a sticks/head combo that has the versatility to shoot both video and photos? It should also be able to support around 15-20lbs because I shoot both medium format and 4x5 (both of which are heavy).
My budget is around $350...I might be able to push to $400.
StopMakingSense
Member
If you're not opposed to manual focusing, the Nikkor 105/2.5 AI is phenomenal. Of course MF shooting is a little more involved and slower but that can also be beneficial for portraiture which it excels at. Just to give an idea of its pedigree, its the lens that helped capture this famous portrait...
It can be found for around $250. Well worth the money.
While someone is mentioning old nikon manual lenses, just wanted to gove a shoutout to the lens that is on my D800 ike 50% of the time, the Series-E 75-150mm f3.5. Can be picked up for about 50 bucks off craigslist, and is a stellar buy for the money. Incredibly light constant aperture telephoto zoom that never leaves me wanting more sharpness wise at 36MP.
Seriously great fucking lens.
I have that lens
Anyways, my tripod of 6 years is on its last legs, so I'm on the market for a new one.
Can anyone recommend a sticks/head combo that has the versatility to shoot both video and photos? It should also be able to support around 15-20lbs because I shoot both medium format and 4x5 (both of which are heavy).
My budget is around $350...I might be able to push to $400.
I have both the Manfrotto MT055XPRO3 with 502 head and the Benro A2573FS6 (Seriously where do they come up with these model names...) and they're both great. Benro one might suit you more.
Need some Kodachrome as wellIf you're not opposed to manual focusing, the Nikkor 105/2.5 AI is phenomenal. Of course MF shooting is a little more involved and slower but that can also be beneficial for portraiture which it excels at. Just to give an idea of its pedigree, its the lens that helped capture this famous portrait...
It can be found for around $250. Well worth the money.
The easy answer is a separate recorder and then combine in editing. I bet you could probably use your phone at a push
The super budget answer that I'm making up on the spot, is crack open the casing where the built in mic is, and wire something in place of it. I bet with some hacking about you could mod a mic socket onto it
openrob
Member
The easy answer is a separate recorder and then combine in editing. I bet you could probably use your phone at a push
The super budget answer that I'm making up on the spot, is crack open the casing where the built in mic is, and wire something in place of it. I bet with some hacking about you could mod a mic socket onto it
OK to be fair that could actually work, but don't want to break my camera before really using it. Haha.
Could anyone suggest a cheap portable recorder?
sechsterangriff
Member
You can probably get an affordable microphone to use with a smartphone and a dedicated app, or a voice recorder. There's a whole market for that type of gear and tons of videos about it on youtube. If you have a decent smartphone you may not even need an external mic.
OK to be fair that could actually work, but don't want to break my camera before really using it. Haha.
Could anyone suggest a cheap portable recorder?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I'm looking to spend about what Im paying for the Camera (£1500/$2000) total
If you're not opposed to manual focusing, the Nikkor 105/2.5 AI is phenomenal. Of course MF shooting is a little more involved and slower but that can also be beneficial for portraiture which it excels at. Just to give an idea of its pedigree, its the lens that helped capture this famous portrait...
It can be found for around $250. Well worth the money.
That lens looks like it can produce amazing pictures, even if I pick up an autofocus lens too. Thanks.
JadedWriter
Member
Then you better do what I do and hit ebay up for some second hand lenses. You can probably do a Tokina 11-16 for landscapes, maybe a 1.8 85mm for portraits, probably should get the new one made by Tamron since it's stabilized and you could probably get either the Nikon F4 24-120 VR lens or the F4 Sigma 24-105 as a basic walk around lens. What would people here recommend for indoor events photography...photography in general? The D750 or D500? I'm pretty sure both are a clear step up from my D7100.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Which usage scenario will be most common? Are you planning on trying to make any money on any particular one?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Nah this all hobbyist work. Just wanna cover a variety of scenarios.
I think I'll probably do more portraiture than anything.
Is the Rode Smartlav out of your budget? Using that with the rode app on your phone would produce good results. There's probably other cheaper lav's you can buy but I haven't looked into it.
Ideally you'd want a Zoom H1 with a lav mic but your phone would do just fine for what you need. May not look as professional though
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Sir, I want you to know that I am sending hate waves toward you through my monitor right now.
nice
QualityPixel
Banned
Since you are using a cropped lens you will want a workhorse lens wider than 24mm (my current lens is widest at 24mm and it is super limiting.
Workhorse:Nikon 16-80mm VR
Wide: Nikon 10-24mm
Tele-zoom: New version 70-300mm VR
Portraits: 50mm F/1.8 (one of my favorites)
or 85mm F/1.8 (also awesome but more expensive and limiting to use on DX cameras)
Other lenses to consider:
www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_61&product_id=300 (awesome lens for indoor low-light, a bit heavy for walking around, but won't disappoint)
http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/p...enses/dx/af-p-dx-nikkor-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6g-vr (compact walk around zoom, decent lens with VR)
35mm F/1.8G DX
I would suggest staying away from most cheap zoom lenses from 3rd party manufactures until after reading reading reviews to see if it's one of the good ones or not.
JadedWriter
Member
In all honesty I don't even find the 18-35 art to even be that heavy these days. It has some wimeight but you get used to it. Then again I use a 2.8 70-200 a lot so by comparison the 18-35 is quite light.
TerryLee81
Member
Most expensive lens I've ever bought, can't wait to try it out in Italy next week.
Art Teitlebaum
Member
Most expensive lens I've ever bought, can't wait to try it out in Italy next week.
Oooohhh nice. Good choice.
I tried one from my local dealer for three days, but I still have to convince my wife that it is absolutely essential for my photographic life to shell out 1200 bucks.
Have fun with it!
TerryLee81
Member
Oooohhh nice. Good choice.
I tried one from my local dealer for three days, but I still have to convince my wife that it is absolutely essential for my photographic life to shell out 1200 bucks.
Have fun with it!
I already have the 12-40mm and the quality of these pro lenses is superb. I also have the 40-150 2.8 comming next week, bought this used for $900. I'll probably not use it as often as the 7-14 and 12-40, since it is a lot bigger than the other two,
Art Teitlebaum
Member
The 12-40 Pro might be my favourite lens ever for all the camera systems I had in all those years, seriously. The sharpness and colour rendition suits my taste perfectly and the build is immaculate. So no wonder that I have the 7-14 Pro on my wishlist.
For my telephoto needs I still have my FourThirds 5020 SWD adapted, which might be even bigger than the 40150 2,8 Pro but still delivers great results.
jongkookie
Member
This might be a really really dumb question but I'm asking coz I'm confused as fnck right now.
Regarding Nikon's DX format...
So if I buy a DX 35mm lens and put it on a Nikon APS-C body does it actually equal out to 35mm or does the crop factor still factor in, equaling it out to 52.5mm instead?
Regarding Nikon's DX format...
So if I buy a DX 35mm lens and put it on a Nikon APS-C body does it actually equal out to 35mm or does the crop factor still factor in, equaling it out to 52.5mm instead?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Crop factor applies. You'll be using more of the center of the lens, the putter edge being outside of the sensor capture area.
JadedWriter
Member
DX lenses are built for crop sensors so it'll be 35mm. You just can't put it on a FX camera without getting severe vignetting, which is why I have no interest in purchasing DX lenses cause they're really not future proof if you intend on going FX at some point.
TerryLee81
Member
It's a 35mm lens, but the field of view on APSC is about equal of that of a 52.5mm lens on FF.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Shit, Jaded is right lol mixed up the two
JadedWriter
Member
What the hell is the purpose of DX again?
StopMakingSense
Member
Cheaper.
JadedWriter
Member
I've been dealing with DX long enough to start realizing "You get what you pay for." I'm fine with it, but at the same time it does start coming off as a compromise sensor size.
StopMakingSense
Member
Cheaper for both the consumer and the manufacturer. The fab process, especially at the advent of DSLRs, was prohibitively expensive going to the FX size, as larger chips meant a greater chance of each chip getting binned, ect.
Depends on your use case. Since you are dealing with events and portraits, FF is def the way to go. Otherwise, at base/low ISO, the sensors performances are very close -- other than FOV difference it's hard to tell them apart. In terms of lenses, since Socannikon want you to buy FF they don't focus much on crop lenses. Otherwise, Pentax & Fuji have great APSC lenses.