Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders Delayed (US) Due To Tariffs, Release Date Still June 5

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This is wild because the average Cambodian is too poor to pay for much of anything america produces

The whole thing doesn't make sense. The tariffs are based on the height of a country's trade surplus with the US. Countries like Vietnam and Cambodia are piss poor compared to the US, they can't afford US goods but on the other hand, they're huge exporters because the local population work for peanuts. So how's 0% tariffs on imported US goods going to do anything to diminish the trade surplus?
 
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LOL who didn't see this happening?
a lot of dumb people on this board thought that nintendo had, and get this, "baked in the tariffs" into the original price. These stupid people did not look at the EU prices, apparently.

US original price: $449
EU price: 469

That's what happens when you have a double digit IQ.
 
Today I learned that Nintendo manufactures the Switch consoles in a country other than Japan. I never bothered to look at my kid's all these years. It's actually kind of disappointing.
 
a lot of dumb people on this board thought that nintendo had, and get this, "baked in the tariffs" into the original price. These stupid people did not look at the EU prices, apparently.

US original price: $449
EU price: 469

That's what happens when you have a double digit IQ.

It's actually cheaper in the EU. Average tax included on that $449 would put it around $485. The EU is getting a deal! That 469 includes a 20% VAT! Basically Nintendo is eating the cost of the VAT.
 
lol, some here are really believing countries are dropping tariffs against USA? only very poor country are doing so. nevertheless, prices will increase in US anyway, as the major partners are not lowering tariffs and companies will use tariffs as a general excuse to increase prices (like covid was used to this purpose, and even years later prices are not back)
 
The whole thing doesn't make sense. The tariffs are based on the height of a country's trade surplus with the US. Countries like Vietnam and Cambodia are piss poor compared to the US, they can't afford US goods but on the other hands, they're huge exporters because the local population work for peanuts. So how's 0% tariffs on imported US goods going to do anything to diminish the trade surplus?

If thats the case then they will have no problem making the concessions.
 
lol, some here are really believing countries are dropping tariffs against USA? only very poor country are doing so. nevertheless, prices will increase in US anyway, as the major partners are not lowering tariffs and companies will use tariffs as a general excuse to increase prices (like covid was used to this purpose, and even years later prices are not back)
People are not going to get it, they see everything as a win and thats whats important
 
If thats the case then they will have no problem making the concessions.
Erm yes that's exactly what just happened. Same for Vietnam. To exactly zero benefit for the US, if they even take these offers and make a deal (doubt it).

Call me when the EU or China make concessions. China just increased tariffs on US exports and EU is about to do the same (or worse target US services)
 
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a lot of dumb people on this board thought that nintendo had, and get this, "baked in the tariffs" into the original price. These stupid people did not look at the EU prices, apparently.

US original price: $449
EU price: 469

That's what happens when you have a double digit IQ.

Yeah, it's exhausting and people tend to ignore the price in other regions.... I'm not a fan of the tariffs personally and hope things can get renegotiated as quickly as possible, but I am also tired of people saying the price for the Switch 2 the "orange man's" fault. Nintendo has been doing this for years.
 
The problem is that no one is watching this train wreck from afar, each one of us is part of a connected, global economy and when the global economy goes down because of the enormous uncertainty "Liberation Day" has caused. We're all passengers on a train that's going off the track. Some of us will only feel a minor bump, some of us will feel the pain (higher prices, inflation) and some of us will feel the brunt of the crash (when companies go broke).

Economic upheavals like the ones we're experiencing are simply bad news for everyone.

I know, don't tell me this, I'm just an innocent bystander. I didn't vote for this nor did I defend any of this insanity. When the cult stops fucking themselves over, things will improve. Until then, let them suffer.
 
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seeing all you guys argue just makes me chuckle when my corrupt government kind of "illegally, depending which party of the coalition you ask" just decided on a whim to increase VAT to 16% because... well they are corrupt and the economy is fucked and they need more money.

I understand the general fear americans have over the tariffs and it's true that none of us really knows how it's going to pan out, if you listen to people either side they'll have their own explanation. I just don't know if you could have accepted being on the same path going forward that you had been on, I just wish you had leaders that all could of come up with a solution with more finesse and a more direct outcome.

Personally I am interested to see how it all pans out for the US and honestly im rooting for you, it's gonna be a tough time before it gets better but if you can prove it can be done then maybe some other nations and countries will wake the fuck up.
 
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lol, some here are really believing countries are dropping tariffs against USA? only very poor country are doing so. nevertheless, prices will increase in US anyway, as the major partners are not lowering tariffs and companies will use tariffs as a general excuse to increase prices (like covid was used to this purpose, and even years later prices are not back)

If that is the case then why are the "rich" countries implementing and maintaining tariffs against the US to begin with?
 
The whole thing doesn't make sense. The tariffs are based on the height of a country's trade surplus with the US. Countries like Vietnam and Cambodia are piss poor compared to the US, they can't afford US goods but on the other hands, they're huge exporters because the local population work for peanuts. So how's 0% tariffs on imported US goods going to do anything to diminish the trade surplus?
I don't see how it does anything and that kinda makes it seem pointless.
 
But from my perspective you just elected one who did.
Who did what? Advocate for policies that benefit infrastructure, education, or healthcare? Not from my perspective. Infrastructure projects did not materialize in his first term as promised. Education funding is not increased. The Department of Education is being dismantled. Student loan forgiveness is being cancelled. Programs to help poor people pay for their medicine are being taken away, and a system that provides quality healthcare for free for all Americans is nowhere on the horizon. None of these things are the priority of the party of the president.

I've heard countless times that the American middle class was abandoned. That tracks with me from my seat. I feel I watched it.
They were. Do you see a lot of politicians from Trump's party advocating for policies that would make it harder for CEOs to get millions of dollars in raises and make it easier for the working class to raise their minimum wage or get significant help with buying their first house? Nope.

Anyway. I'm not overly confident that I'm right. I can EASILY find an "economist" on both sides of this issue. But I do sense this is a tough 'correction' of some bad economic policy that was , almost inarguably, a bad situation in the United States that was getting worse. This kind of correction is never easy evidenced by the "corrections" that caused it if by nothing else.
The actual workings of global economics is beyond most people's ability to fully comprehend. I think that I've sourced a lot of solid data points from history to make relevant points and justify my opinion, but it sounds like that's not enough to convince you. I'll leave you with this - this "tough correction" regardless of how necessary or sound of plan it is, is acknowledged by President Trump as going to cause temporary hardship to the working class, right? If that's correct, and if he so cares about the working class, why did he not also include significant safety nets for all the people who will inevitably be hurt by these policies and who need a safety net and proper education in order to transition to the kind of economy that he wants? Instead he's leaving them all to flounder and try to bootstrap themselves up, while whatever is left of their retirement evaporates, and all of his rich billionaire friends have enough capital in reserve to buy the dip and make out like bandits.
 
I'd be happy to volunteer as a moderator for that (politics) section. The goal would be to prevent (well prohibit) insults (aka personal attacks) and, if the forum tools allow, temporarily restrict offending users from accessing that section specifically.

Edit: Oh and evidence supported statements would be a requirement.
 
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And yet their government wanted to slap another 35% on top?
You can't use the tariffs we applied to them to determine what they were charging us. The reciprocal thing is untrue.

I've looked for what they charge the US but I haven't had any luck. I'm sure its something
 
, I just wish you had leaders that all could of come up with a solution with more finesse and a more direct outcome.

Japan and Canada for example is removing all tariffs with the eu step by step so you can definitely have solutions with more finesse.
 
a lot of dumb people on this board thought that nintendo had, and get this, "baked in the tariffs" into the original price. These stupid people did not look at the EU prices, apparently.

US original price: $449
EU price: 469

That's what happens when you have a double digit IQ.
We always call our US-bros out for being low IQ but just checked avg IQ by country in 2024 and the US is actually pretty high up there, avg 99,7 just like UK, while top is 4way draw between china, taiwan, hong kong and macau at 107 avg :)
 
nintendo fanboyism + TDS

two of the most unstable groups of people meeting to form one super mega unstable being the likes of which we have never seen :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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More tariffs = Increased cost for consumers = more tax = more money in governments pocket = More money for 🇮🇱

go look up usury and who was behind it in Germany during the Great Depression.
 
Simple fact:
If you tried to live your life with things built only in America, You can't. Billy Clinton help tons of companies move oversees to save money.
 
Nintendo was greedy before and the backlash is going to get worse. I'm glad and hope next time they become humbled but will not until their bottom line is hit.
 
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I can't take another price hike. Please don't raise the prices Nintendo... you already have more money than God.
 
Japan and Canada for example is removing all tariffs with the eu step by step so you can definitely have solutions with more finesse.
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Unfortunately for the US, you had 2 options and one was do nothing and do something. The do something option is blunt, and sometimes being blunt can work, but it's gonna be tough at first, no doubt about it.

But doing nothing should never have been the alternative.
 
You can't use the tariffs we applied to them to determine what they were charging us. The reciprocal thing is untrue.

I've looked for what they charge the US but I haven't had any luck. I'm sure its something

I know that, they're using trade deficit and currency manipulation in addition to actual tariffs. I don't agree with that calculation to be clear.

I was just responding to the poster who mentioned the people of Cambodia being poor.
 
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I cannot believe the number of doofuses here drinking the kool aide on tariffs. Do you think we are going to start manufacturing iphones a mass producing t-shirts here? Are you insane? Do you know how much that will drive up the cost of goods (which lowers your purchasing power)? This is madness.
I actually don't think tariffs will correct the issues but there are issues. Cost of goods is not isolated from wages. This effects Europe more than America as the economy is generally worse but if you for instance lose much of your industry due to cheap imports, there is a cost to the consumer even if stuff is cheaper. There is a direct cost of artificially increasing the price of a good either through a tariff or a sales tax, so something is now $150 instead of $100, but there is also an indirect cost of losing lower middle income jobs. So if an automotive plant closes and people there were earning $60,000 and that was replaced with Amazon warehouse with half the wage. Yes, something is now $50 more expensive but those people are $30,000 down and this can be repeated. No one knows what wages would be now if we didn't deindustrialise. Yes things would be more expensive but wages could be a lot higher.
 
A guy who is actually a self made Billionaire and the riches man in the work, A man who legit has built Rocket companies and doing what Nasa could not, A man who leads multiple multi billion dollar business? IS an idiot?

Stay off the bullshit MSNB, CNN, NBC, ETC. They all say the same shit and openly hate Elon and Trump. They are made because Elon is finding the dirt they are hiding.
lol. Self made fuck off hahahah. More like stay off Elon's dick.
 
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Unfortunately for the US, you had 2 options and one was do nothing and do something. The do something option is blunt, and sometimes being blunt can work, but it's gonna be tough at first, no doubt about it.

But doing nothing should never have been the alternative.

Life is always a spectrum. It's never black and white. So yea loads of options tho. Let's see how it goes.
 
The whole thing doesn't make sense. The tariffs are based on the height of a country's trade surplus with the US. Countries like Vietnam and Cambodia are piss poor compared to the US, they can't afford US goods but on the other hand, they're huge exporters because the local population work for peanuts. So how's 0% tariffs on imported US goods going to do anything to diminish the trade surplus?

Especially since us companies also benefit from more countries getting richer over time. Look at steam having like half their user ass coming from China.
 
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