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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
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Ninja Sharingan
Banned
That is absolutely incredible. Ms you sly dog you! Wow!
slavesnyder
Member
Next year MS PR can celebrate the biggest 29th of February in XboxOne's history.
Obliterator
Member
IF this ends up being accurate and they are down YoY on Black Friday that is some next level bull shit PR. It is so misleading its unbelievable.
Then again thats what the PR team gets paid for
Bitch Pudding
Member
a) read OP
b) read every post that follows OP, because the whole thread is about our expectations
. But feel free to give us a summary.Yea tomorrow is the day we'll know all. Hopefully they've done well because you're right that is some amazing PR spin.
Looks like Halo 5 digital sales are almost 30%.
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/674727106094477313
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/674727106094477313
CosmicQueso
Member
Nevermind.
Welfare, I was just going to repost the H5 digital line from a few days ago. Ain't no thang.
Welfare, I was just going to repost the H5 digital line from a few days ago. Ain't no thang.
3rdamention
Member
Yeah, its obvious that Microsoft didn't sell more Xbox One consoles this Black Friday than last Black Friday. They had their Black Friday PR and this PR to accommodate their price drop, and they never said they sold more this Black Friday than last year. That specific day, Black Friday only, has been danced around for sure.
Welfare
Member
Always miss these.
joecanada
Member
probably closer to 90 % , I think it was a typo...
3rdamention
Member
Wow, he says that the first week Attach Rate for Halo 3 on 360 was about 50% and the Attach Rate for Halo 5 on the Xbox One is about 15%. Remember, there were around 1.8 million more XboxOnes sold in the US at the time of Halo 5 than there were 360s at the time of Halo 3.
I just cannot believe that. That attach rate drop is just too large for the flagship title.
Primethius
Banned
The initial Halo 3 attach rate was insane. Understandable though, the hype for that game was insane.
I don't think I've ever been that hyped for a game in my entire life. The closest was Halo 2 and 3 eclipsed that considerably.
15% AR for Halo?!???! Why the hell did these people buy XB1s then? I assumed most the people picking up XB1s were doing so in anticipation of Halo. I guess I was wrong.
Welfare
Member
They saw Titanfall, but their Destiny was to go to the PS4.
Halo = Dead
Simple really.
Lol. Clever.
Lol. Beaten. I was going to type "Have you seen Titanfall?"
FullMetaltech
Member
I have to agree. I think people flocked over to Destiny with Bungie at the helm there. But dam is that low.
Honestly I think to some extent, MS's own strategy for marketing the Xbox One early on played into this. When they tried to market it as the TV TV TV NFL TV NFL box, I think quite a few people bought it for exactly that, whereas the 360 early on was strictly games, games, games.
If think that a lot of people wouldn't buy it day one or first week even for fear of it being broken like MCC
I wonder if it breaks 3 mill by the end of the year. It has to be over or at least at 2 by now
Aceofspades
Banned
Disaster!
Stilton Disco
Member
This is what I genuinely don't understand. Forza sales are slowing down, Gears is only a remaster, Titanfall wasn't the next COD it was made out to be, Sunset Overdrive and RotTR were bombs, and Halo 5 is a shadow of what the franchise used to be.
So why are people actually choosing to buy an XO over the PS4? Is it just marketing, or national pride in the US for an American company? Simple ignorance of the power difference and bigger library on the PS4?
I'm not trying to be a console warrior here. I get why people who love Xbox exclussives would buy one, the appeal to enthusiasts of backwards compatibility and people wanting to play with friends or with their prefered controller. It's safe to say anyone on this site that's choosing to buy one absolutely knows why they would want one, and have fully informed opinions on it's merits.
But for the snivelling oiks, people who just want COD and FIFA/Madden, why are they getting XO's, when it's clearly not for the thing that most sets it apart from the otherwise stronger competition.
Update 3:
#9 / WIU: Mario Kart 8 (↓5)
#14 / PS4: Star Wars Battlefront (—
#24 / XB1: Gears of War Ultimate edition (↓2)
#30 / PS4: Uncharted the Nathan Drake collection (↓4)
#53 / XB1: Holidays bundle (↓4)
#86 / 3DS XL (↑1)
#99 / XB360 Peggle (NEW)
A bit consideration: how is possible that the Uncharted bundle is always in TOP 10, most time in TOP 3 in the hourly, but in the monthly it continue to drop and drop? Now at #30...
Update 4:
#4 / PS4: Star Wars Battlefront (↑10)
#12 / WIU: Mario Kart 8 (↓3)
#15 / PS4: Uncharted the Nathan Drake collection (↑15)
#28 / XB1: Gears of War Ultimate edition (↓4)
#55 / XB1: Holidays bundle (↓2)
#73 / 3DS XL (↑13)
#100 / XB360 Peggle (↓1)
For the most part it was probably the cheapest way to play gta, cod, madden etc
They bought MCC.
KurtSloane
Banned
Man Halo 5 tanked way harder than even I thought.
theprodigy
Member
Looks like the monthly chart finally fixed itself...I think?
I'm sure a lot of people bought it as a secondary console for exclusives, just as I'm sure the reverse is true.
I bought mine as a secondary console at launch for titanfall.
They mostly had the 360 so a good amount are just sticking with the brand they know. They can carry over their achievements, their accounts, and stick with a controller they are familiar with.
Things like promotional pricing and game bundles would explain a lot. None of those comments on the status of the exclusive franchises are really criticisms of game quality, even taking them all at face value. That's a lot of well received titles in one place for people to react to. And the stronger platform competition is outperforming the XB1. The market seems to be acting the way you'd expect, with the PS4 firmly leading sales because it's more bang for the buck. Do the XB1 sales seem too close, for how you're seeing the market?
Also, "unwashed masses"? My goodness.
some people are just used to the ecosystem, as silly as it may sound, it is a factor.
What i can't believe is HOW is the 360 in this chart.
360 in the US was probably the most sucesseful console ever, that thing was a freaking beast.
I was under the impression that those features were incredibly unappealing to the masses. There seemed to be only a small minority seeing this stuff as killer apps. Kinda like the Kinect stuff.
The UK charts handily dispelled this theory. While the logic is valid it doesn't appear to be the case given the sales data we have so far and I really don't see that changing much going forward. It honestly seems like it just fell incredibly flat.
When the polling said the primary driving factor in purchasing an XB1 was "brand" I assumed it meant like the brand name first party content. But it appears it was literally the Xbox brand itself. Apparently it sill carries a lot of weight in the states.
Well, it is at third place for be correct, The king is DS, and PS2 is Second.
Dash_Riprock
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Brand recognition only lasts so long. Just look at Nintendo (Minus the Wii, obviously).
24hrs to go... Can the November 2015 NPD results thread become the biggest ever?
How interesting will things be?
How many rpms will we see in PR announcements?
Will George return?
Will we get pies, with Cream?
Answers tomorrow, with the last NPD result for the year 2015!
PS: Aquamarine, if you read this, I think we should dedicate this upcoming thread to you. Wherever you are, Godspeed!
How interesting will things be?
How many rpms will we see in PR announcements?
Will George return?
Will we get pies, with Cream?
Answers tomorrow, with the last NPD result for the year 2015!
PS: Aquamarine, if you read this, I think we should dedicate this upcoming thread to you. Wherever you are, Godspeed!
And Zhuge. :_(
jmaine_ph
Member
Wow that's new levels of spin.
Chuckwagon
Banned
Just the usual Halo is dead thread. Of course 360 guys who switch to PS4 jumped on Destiny. I mean what was their alternative? Killzone?
Stilton Disco
Member
True, but with price parity, I'm surprised US sales are still relatively close to the PS4
See, even as one myself, I've always had a hard time believing multi-system owners are anything more than a statistical anomaly. I'd love to know some hard figures on that if anyone has some.
This would be my first guess too, but then it's not exactly holding up worldwide. I know the XO is more US focused than ever, but still, changing everything you're used to and invested in with a new system is a lot of hassle, but most people seem to be fine with it.
Too close in the US, where'd I'd expect consumers to be better informed on both what sets a games machine apart and why one might be better than the other, neither of which accounts for the mostly excellent exclusives seeing disappointing sales, while the system itself does relatively well despite what seems to actually be selling it being better on the competing platform.
So yeah, in that context, I do think it's selling better than it should be.
Also I did briefly consider calling them 'snivelling oiks' instead. I can change it if you think that would be better?
I'd forgotten about that poll! I wonder if it really is just that simple.
Stilton Disco
Member
Done. Because I am a hero.
DriftingSpirit
Member
It was about Halo 5's attach rate and the implication of Destiny taking Halo players. Where does 360 to PS4 people going to Destiny on PS4 come in at?
Not even close.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
That's insane. So Halo 5 must be at 2-2.5m at this point. I think it will hit 4 to 5 million in total, so anywhere between half to one third of general Halo game.
I wonder if Halo 6 is coming in two years or three years. And if it comes in three years, will MS release a different Halo game two years from now?serversurfer
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Oh, I wholeheartedly agree, but it seems that's precisely what they've done. Notice that when they say the examined period is November 21st-27th, they don't specify 2015. If they examined different date ranges in different years, they'd need to specify that they were referring to 21-27 in 2015 and 22-28 in 2014. But they didn't say that. They could've also described it as "The Saturday through Friday that surrounds Thanksgiving," but they didn't say that either. They said they were talking about Black Friday week, which was being defined as Nov 21-27 — again, not Sat-Fri — and comparing it to "the same period last year." (emphasis mine) So they say pretty explicitly they were looking at 21-27 in both years.
Oh, and another Tip o' the Hat to MSPR: It seems the 21st-27th range actually was disclosed in the original press release, and we all missed it because it was footnoted in a completely different paragraph. orz
Not unless the monthly NPD report has daily breakdowns. I know they have weekly, but I dunno about dailies. But without daily sales, the finest granularity we'll get from NPD is Sun-Sat sales, so we'll have no way to know if MS really did Sat-Fri both years (apart from the fact they told us that's not what they did, of course).
Maybe some kind soul will at least tell us how many Bones they did sell in the actual Black Friday Week as defined by NPD.
That's insane. So Halo 5 must be at 2-2.5m at this point. I think it will hit 4 to 5 million in total, so anywhere between half to one third of general Halo game.
Halo 5 could reach 6 Million with a strong $350 Bundle next year.
But i doub it. Of course, we will probabily see some like This, but it won't ne an insane Bundle.
It will be just like The MCC Bundle of This year.
This bundle was selling great for about 3 months, and then is totally death after The madden bunlde.
I expect a similar thing with Halo 5.
I predict an Halo 5 Bundle in March, and when others important Games will come out, Halo 5 Bundle will be Forget.
So, i don't know... I Say 5,500,000 lifetime for Halo 5.