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NPD Sales Results for December 2006
- Thread starter sonycowboy
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What the hell was Pachter smoking? PS2 sales are wow! Sony best keep supporting that money making machine, clearly price/library are still selling that thing like hotcakes. Why buy a next gen machine when you can snag a PS2 for $129.99? Bottom line is Americans are cheap, and the PS2 was an easy choice for many of them this Christmas. I'm amazed the 360 moved 1 million plus units at the $400 price tag. I still think they need a $100 price drop before summer though. Gears of War is clearly the early 360 killer app and apparently Guitar Hero 2 will be the next one. I'm sure it will sell well to the 360 fanbase.
jimbo said:
for what its worth.... theres another wii/ps3 sunday ad thingy coming really soon... and all the 360s that we have now, comes with a free copy of Madden 07 inside.. plus a "coupon book" at bestbuy
I can't wait until Jan. 's NPD is released... so i can say I can't wait until Feb. 's NPD is released.. so i can say...
J-Rzez said:
For the PS3 to catch up to the 360, it will have to outsell it by about 65,000 per month, every month, over the next 60 months. And that's just to be even in 5 years.
How likely do you think that is when Halo 3 comes out? Or when GTA comes out? Or when the 360 premium drops to $299 then $199 within that time frame?
I'd give the PS3 a 5-10% chance of catching the 360 at this point. Wii, I have no idea.
Wii hardware numbers seem off given the known tie ratio we've been given (something like 3+ units per hardware sold in December) and this is with a pack-in.
Nintendo also raised their financial forecasts for FY 2007, and they stated they still expect 6 million Wiis are still expected to be sold by then with increased software to 21 million units from 16 million and they said they would ship 2 million units. Unless they are expecting strong January-March sales, something isn't adding up.
If they indeed send 2 million units to NA, and lets be generous and give Canada/Mexico 15% of the market , they'd still be 758k units short.
Nintendo also raised their financial forecasts for FY 2007, and they stated they still expect 6 million Wiis are still expected to be sold by then with increased software to 21 million units from 16 million and they said they would ship 2 million units. Unless they are expecting strong January-March sales, something isn't adding up.
If they indeed send 2 million units to NA, and lets be generous and give Canada/Mexico 15% of the market , they'd still be 758k units short.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Heh. PSP is about as much on DS's heels as Wii is on X360's.Insertia said:
Yeah, if the real sell-through was significantly more, they could've easily enough cried foul. They've got their own tracking system.Odysseus said:
Some context. I'm going to use rounders here, sonycowboy let me know if this is okay.WarLox said:I can't wait until Jan. 's NPD is released... so i can say I can't wait until Feb. 's NPD is released.. so i can say...
The PS2 sold 1.1m through December 2000 (debuting in October). Pretty good start, but shortages were rampant. January sales stayed solid at 250k and it just kept on trucking. The Gamecube had a great start, selling 1.2m in November and December 2001 (more than the Wii at this point). January? Crashed to ~sixty thousand. January will provide a very good indication of how sustained demand is after the holidays, at least for the first several months of 2007.
Nintendo better get their butts moving and get Wiis out or they're basically throwing away a golden opportunity to slam their foots into their competitor's throats. Word of mouth and causal hype don't last very long. The general American public have a short attention span especially for products that was big for the holiday season.
Also from seeing the Zelda attach rate it would seem very little of the casuals got a hold of the system considering most casuals would probably be satisfied with just Wii sports.
The PS3 is just too expensive and have no games. There's really no reason to buy one right now other than to brag you have a PS3.
Xbox 360 seems to be doing pretty well and a lot better than the Xbox. Sure the Xbox did better than the 360 at this point in total sold but that was because not only was there a $200 difference, there was also Halo, the two free Sega games. This time MS has so much more manuever room with the price drop. Plus we all know Halo 3 is gonna be absolutely ridicules.
Also from seeing the Zelda attach rate it would seem very little of the casuals got a hold of the system considering most casuals would probably be satisfied with just Wii sports.
The PS3 is just too expensive and have no games. There's really no reason to buy one right now other than to brag you have a PS3.
Xbox 360 seems to be doing pretty well and a lot better than the Xbox. Sure the Xbox did better than the 360 at this point in total sold but that was because not only was there a $200 difference, there was also Halo, the two free Sega games. This time MS has so much more manuever room with the price drop. Plus we all know Halo 3 is gonna be absolutely ridicules.
krypt0nian
Banned
dyls said:
dyls said:
i don't know, maybe pachter could have called around and figured out what was up instead of simply relying on nintendo's statements of self-interest
Odysseus said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5303167#post5303167
indeed
Like the weatherman, he can be dead wrong half the time and still have a job.dyls said:
A few years ago in December the local guy in Iowa, channel 9, forecast a sunny if cold day to follow. The next day we got two feet of snow. He came on that night and said, basically, "that front came down further than I thought it would. Oops." Pachter gets paid a lot of money to follow this stuff. I'm amazed how off he is sometimes. I thought he did more than just take the manufacturers at their word? Anyone can do that.
PhoenixDark
Banned
dyls said:
Analyist indeed
AltogetherAndrews said:
David Yarnton, president of Nintendo of Europe. He likely woke up a few days after launch, sipped his coffee, read his paper... and then proceeded to shit his pants when he read that Wii is the fastest-selling console across the entire European continent.
"What? Europe finds Nintendo home consoles RELEVANT?! OH F***, WHAT AM I GONNA DO?!"
So, let's recap... Nintendo's weakest market with GameCube and N64 sees explosive and well-publicized demand. Nintendo knows that they'll have sell-through of their shipments well into January or February in North America and Japan. Jeez, tough call deciding what they'd do with their shipments and why both regions appear to have been undercut.
It was their target pre-launchduderon said:
Also Nintendo always use NPD data on its PR, they rarely use their own unless its stating WW sales. So even if there is a discrepancy it's unlikely they will correct it, favorable or unfavorable.
I don't think they shipped 2 million but I do think an adjustment to the data may be issued, or heck, Wii January sales might shock everyone.
tahrikmili
Member
360 sales in Dec match Wii sales in Nov and Dec combined.
Sony shipped 687K PS3s LTD (1 million megaton?)
360 has 3 exclusive games in annual most sold games list with a 4.6m install base
Microsoft must be patting themselves on the back. Really good job, IMO.
Sony shipped 687K PS3s LTD (1 million megaton?)
360 has 3 exclusive games in annual most sold games list with a 4.6m install base
Microsoft must be patting themselves on the back. Really good job, IMO.
Terrell said:
Their recent financials have held Wii shipments by FY 2007 ending March 06 to be 6 million, which means they will make up for it between Jan to March. The real question is whether the public will be buying or if we'll run into inventories sitting unsold.
If they had actually met their stated shipment goals in 2006, there's no reason for them to hold their Wii shipments unchanged at 6 million, I was actually expecting a bump up to 7 million if they actually sold 4 million by Dec 31, now we know why that is the case.
Assuming WW Wii installed base is at around 3.1~3.2 million currently, they'll need to sell just 2.8 million in 3 months, for 933k give or take total in each of the 3 months split between the 3 territories (311k on average per territory). I'm actually skeptical they can do that, but if demand doesn't slow (and it apparently sold over 100k units in Japan first week of January) then they may even beat expectations by March.
the girl next door
Banned
Nintendo doomed.
Tieno
Member
I think the Wii numbers are the dissapointing ones in this.
They said they shipped 2million, mainstream hype is supposed to be great, cheapest console, sold out everywhere, yet they only sold 114k more than the PS3 which is twice as expensive, shipped only 1m, isn't sold out, "doesn't have any games", has bad karma and manufacturing problems and whatnot.
Yeah, either Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with their artificial shortage or they lied and couldn't make enough units.
They said they shipped 2million, mainstream hype is supposed to be great, cheapest console, sold out everywhere, yet they only sold 114k more than the PS3 which is twice as expensive, shipped only 1m, isn't sold out, "doesn't have any games", has bad karma and manufacturing problems and whatnot.
Yeah, either Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with their artificial shortage or they lied and couldn't make enough units.
Red Blaster
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Odysseus said:
la la land
Norse
Member
I guess I was right when I posted sony must have shipped 300k units dec 31st in the "sony ships 1 million to NA in 2006" thread.
also, since there are 0 games listed for ps3 in the top ten, what % of ps3's purchased were by a/v freaks wanting the blu ray abilities of the ps3?
oh, OT...Live Free or Die Hard !!!!! Frickin right doggie, a new die hard movie is coming out. woooo hoooo!
also, since there are 0 games listed for ps3 in the top ten, what % of ps3's purchased were by a/v freaks wanting the blu ray abilities of the ps3?
oh, OT...Live Free or Die Hard !!!!! Frickin right doggie, a new die hard movie is coming out. woooo hoooo!
Norse said:
to be completely fair here, a spot in the top ten would have required a game to sell to 75% of the december ps3 buyers or 53% of the total userbase. if we're all of the opinion that resistance is the only must have and accepting that a sizable number of people just aren't into first person shooters (ps2 didn't have any halo-sized fps successes, for example), it's really hard to expect a ps3 game to sell that many games right now.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!
So many "banned" people in this thread. It's crazy. I'm reading this information for the first time tonight.
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So many "banned" people in this thread. It's crazy. I'm reading this information for the first time tonight.
:O
cartman414
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btrboyev said:
Which they could have and should have been selling right from the beginning, like in Japan.
Norse
Member
J-Rzez said:
hehehe, J-Rzez, you sure are trying hard to be a glass is half full tye of guy today. The numbers for ps2 and psp are good enough for you to be happy. But hitting only about 70% of what ps3 was supposed to have shipped isnt something to be happy about.
hey, nintendo press release says greatest december in history....sony says they dominated the competition....did nintendo mean greatest in Nintendo history or all gaming history? If all gaming, then how can sony say they dominated?
Norse said:
Eh, I guess I'm getting fed up with the baseless Sony slander... and becoming a heavy symphathizer for them... Kinda like how sometimes hostages end up becoming loyal to their "host"... :lol
I'll always pull for them though, until they let me down like Ninty did years ago...
Blimblim said:
Hey... They've given me all the bread and water (games and consoles) that I've wanted so far... and spent a lot of time with them... when they shoot me as and example, that's when it ends though... so yeah... lol... I'm gonna quit here... before I get tagged here as Videogames first reported Stockhom Syndrome case... :lol