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NPD Sales Results for June 2015 [Up2: Batman, Splatoon]
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Mr Moose
Member
WTF is this true? (is it 3 years?)
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Warms my heart to see Splatoon doing so well.
The Last One
Member
Not yet, we need more sugar.
w101 is Nintendo. And was well talked about for almost a year.
Bayo is Nintendo (Well Bayo2). And was well talked about for over a year.
Xenoblade is Nintendo. And is well talked about for over a year. (Not saying it'll bomb in the west but....)
Welfare
Member
Want to hear something worse.
Despite the Dreamcast being discontinued early on, it has still sold more than the Wii U when looking at the same timeframe.
However the Wii U should exceed the Dreamcast install base in a couple of months.
Then I wait.
Welfare
Member
Wait what was the Dreamcast LTD?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The Wii was definitely a hype driven, "Angry Birds" marketed anomaly.
Take that out of the equation and Nintendo home consoles have been on an average of 10 million LTD decline generation to generation since starting with the SNES. And the Wii U is fitting that same pattern, especially if they drop the "NX" next year (only if it is a new home console/combo and not just a handheld)
Thank god for that, at least.
Well if a game receives marketing push equivalent to MK then I don't know if that's really a "sleeper hit" (not saying Bayo would have sold the same with similar marketing push).
Yeah those fit to definition well IMHO.
4.1 million
Stone Ocean
Member
Mad Max should have some good legs heading into Black Friday, at least.
But yeah, Mad Max could've really used an August date or hell even October since that month is basically devoid of big name AAA titles to compete with.
Mr Moose
Member
Holy... DAMNNNNN.
IMO the Wii was pretty crappy, my brother had one. As an old Ninendo fan myself I was let down, same with the GC controller, N64 will always reign supreme.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Which is why nobody should be shocked when they go for a more affordable system next round.
B1gg_Randall
Member
Wow!
Yea Tomodachi and Luigi Mansion 2 seem closer to sleeper hit.
Splatoon is over expections though I would assume.
It might pass Smash U in Japan.
Wonder if Nintendo will ever release the number of people who bought the MK8 DLCs and whether they are working on another DLC towards the game. It would be a smart thing to do considering dat attach rate.
That entirely depends on what type of resources are needed to create the type of flashed out DLC they made so far for MK8.
The Mario Kart people have probably moved on by now.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I also added to another post saying the consensus of the demographics. Parents feel safer buying their kids Nintendo versus a Shooter or God of War device. They will buy their kids Mario Kart and Splatoon over Bayonetta.
As someone else mentioned. Marketing plays a role as well. My point is, it wasn't a "sleeper hit". It was well known and had MK8 like marketing.
Embarrassing.
Welfare
Member
Alright. Just realized that the Wii U sales are going to plummet, so that would be why it'll take a while longer.
FF Seraphim
Member
Lol what? No way, us Mario Karters would totally buy more DLC.
theprodigy
Member
probably meant the developers moving on to the next game in the series
The game came out more than a year ago, we know for a fact that Konno has moved on, and by now Nintendo should be focusing on developing NX and mobile titles.
Edit: year I was talking about the devs sorry about that lol.
hodayathink
Member
Halo 5 and NBA 2K. Though getting it out in the first week or two might work.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
No, for the Wii the hype was real, despite journalists and pundits saying year after year "the sales are going to pop". The unusually high sales of 3rd party garbage minigame collections (in addition to some of the best-selling games of all time like Mario Kart Wii, NSMB Wii, Wii Fit, etc) proves that the owners of the system played the system and it wasn't just a Wii Sports machine.
I believe the Wii's attach rate was 8.84, higher than the NES, the SNES, the N64, the DS, and the GBA. You don't have an attach rate like that while simultaneously having everyone's Wii "collecting dust" like people always claimed.
Source:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/29/these-are-nintendos-lifetime-hardware-and-software-numbers
Not saying the Wii was the best console for all gamers, but I rather liked it and ~100m other people liked it enough to buy it, at least.
The Mad Draklor
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It's amazing how Sony turned things around from last gen :O
Also, you changed your avatar again.
Imperfected
Member
I think you're overestimating the percentage of Wii-U sales that are actually being made to/for children. If the Wii-U were selling as well to the under 18 demographic as they traditionally were in generations past and had only lost the adult audience, then honestly I don't think anyone would be nearly as worried about the company.
Yeh, I just got back from the gym and this guy did the loudest fart ever! He thought I had headphones in but the music was on pause so I heard it.... was so awkward!
Mr Moose
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SuperSonic1305
Member
More kids on Xbox = kiddy games like Lego, Minecraft, and Call of Duty sell better
Elder Scrolls was made popular on Xbox + PS4 has the superior FFXIV = ESO sells more on Xbox One
FF Seraphim
Member
Ah I see, makes sense now... But one could wish for more MK8 DLC
So he was confident in the smell if the only reason why he did it was thinking you couldn't hear it
Baroquemantic
Member
Lmao. I remember this happening to one of my friends back in college. Everybody heard it, everybody collectively paused, and he just silently walked out of the room. It was the most hilariously awkward thing ever.
Lol. Zhuge, you're awesome.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Of course the sales were real, but I think the argument people make when they discount it as an outlier or anomaly is that it didn't create anything for Nintendo to build off of. It' didn't create a loyal fanbase they could sell more hardware too. It was monstrously successful for a solid 3-4 year period, and moved tons of hardware and software, but when people dropped it they dropped it like a rock and the brand meant nothing to them.
As far as the NPD, man Sony is really killing it with these 3rd party marketing relationships. It feels like they are linking themselves to the biggest and most sought after games and aligning them in their camp. Destiny last year. Batman this summer. Then Star Wars in the Fall. Those might not be exclusives but having the co-marketing and branding seems to be doing wonders for them. Smart marketing moves on their part.
Welfare
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twothunder
Member
One of iwata's last comments was about Splatoon after a comment / question from a shareholder.
" Iwata: As some of you may have seen the TV commercials we have been airing recently, Splatoon is a brand-new title and not a title from an established series. It has a very unique and fantasy-like setting. This game, inspired by squid squirting out ink, is played by human-shaped characters with squid-like features shooting, instead of squirting, ink at each other, and the team that paints the widest area in its team color wins. Having received high recognition from our consumers for its novelty, this titles sell-through sales reached 1 million units in less than a month from its release. We feel very grateful for this, since our view was not so optimistic prior to release, for it being a non-series title."
Splatoon certainly surpassed Nintendo's expectations.
LMAO
LOL
This is why I have this avatar. That's the exact face I made when I smelled it. Oh man, it was bad. That was also the face I made when looking around to see if anyone smelled it as well. Thankfully the gym was pretty empty, so I wafted it away and kept going.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And where are they now? And how many closets did this thing end up in or collecting dust after that novelty worn off? I am not discounting the sales at all, just pointing to why it is now seen as an anomaly for them.
It came out at the right time, a more impulsive price with a motion control fad that cashed in on the grannies and soccer moms who were loving the touch games on their iPhones that started to boom at the same time.
Not saying it was bad, I loved some of the Nintendo games on mine. But as a more core gamer than the mass who bought it, that waggle effect wore off in a month and I was playing games on a classic pad.
It was an anomaly for them for system sales, because as I said before, their systems have been on a 10 mil on average decline every year. And Wii removed, it is followed that exact pattern to a T.
Exactly. This to me is the definition of a sleeper hit. Kinda like how ND felt about TLoU. (they talked about it at a roundtable interview recently)
Only difference is when trailers and gameplay was shown there was so much hype and want for TLoU. I dont think so really for Splatoon.
Splatoon - sleeper hit.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Yay splatoon.
Is there much really much "loyalty" period? In the gaming industry nowadays
If your next product stinks (or is just less attractive), consumers won't buy it. Regardless of they previously bought.
Wii U situation is obvious.
Xbox 1 is going no where near ~85 million, Maybe like half of that but who knows. And its current LTD is after all the price cuts and deals.
PS3 started badly, but recovered. However, Sony lost an effload of money despite selling ~85 million. So hard to say "recovered". And that was off the back of the most selling console ever.
Seems like loyalty is a bit overrated.