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Circana October 2024: #1 Black Ops 6 #2 Sparking Zero #3 Silent Hill 2 #5 Metaphor ReFantazio #6 DA: Veilguard; PS5 #1 Units + Rev, XBS #2 Units + Rev

Topher

Topher

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mckmas8808 said:
Y'all do realize all of your responses is the exact reason why people are starting to hate Twitter and are leaving right? It's like you guys don't understand it's just a social media application. But for some reason people are treating it as if it's the Yankees versus the Red Sox, the Celtics versus the Lakers, or Manchester United verse liverpool.

Nowadays people don't even care about the data or the information on social media, instead people would rather fight over Which social media app people are posting on. It's so stupid and it's so boring and wack.
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I stated a fact my man. Bluesky is a left-leaning site and it does censor what people say. Examples of this have been given in this very thread.

We are not on twitter and I don't care if people post there or any other social media website.
 
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FIREKNIGHT2029

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Seeing these sales splits for COD, it’s no wonder why MS is calling everything an Xbox now including the PS5 lol.

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Jaybe

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Wild to see COD BO6 not #1 on the YTD, it typically takes it its first month in a non Rockstart/Hogwarts year.
Comparing to MW3 is likesaying you beat a midget in hurdles. At least Dring properly compared it to MW2 which wasn’t a glorified DLC.
Dragon Ball is huge.
That number 3 this month, silent hill 2, couldn’t make the YTD is pretty telling that you can’t put much stock in a high number in the monthly sales meaning much.
RIP Dragon Age and Outlaws still nowhere to be seen on the YTD.
 
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Fess

Fess

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FIREKNIGHT2029 said:
Seeing these sales splits for COD, it’s no wonder why MS is calling everything an Xbox now including the PS5 lol.

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It’s fake that’ll happen when there is a court case like when Epic wanted onto iOS.

Nothing has changed besides the messaging, people are just dumb and don’t think about the consequences. Everything in the ”This is an Xbox” ad is about Windows and streaming and having access to the Xbox app. And it’s unlikely that Sony would ever allow the Xbox app on their platform, it would eat into their software sales, people would use Gamepass or stream instead of buying games on Playstation Store, same consequences as on Xbox.
 
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onQ123

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Jaybe said:
Wild to see COD BO6 not #1 on the YTD, it typically takes it its first month in a non Rockstart/Hogwarts year.
Comparing to MW3 is likesaying you beat a midget in hurdles. At least Dring properly compared it to MW2 which wasn’t a glorified DLC.
Dragon Ball is huge.
That number 3 this month, silent hill 2, couldn’t make the YTD is pretty telling that you can’t put much stock in a high number in the monthly sales meaning much.
RIP Dragon Age and Outlaws still nowhere to be seen on the YTD.
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But isn't that without Pal World & Wukong in the mix?
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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BennyBlanco said:
So in other words you are cheerleading for the Sony corporation but somehow this is different than a person (on a different website no less) cheerleading for a different corporation. You were lamenting that PC made gains in the Japanese market because it’s bad for Sony, but now you are saying this isn’t bad for customers. Just be a cheerleader dude. There are plenty of you on here.
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You realize I can speak from SIE's POV one moment and my own POV the next, right? Yes, PC growth in Japan is bad for SIE since it's mainly come at the expense of PlayStation market share (mainly with software sales). It's good for gamers in the region because if they're on PC they get more games on their platform now.

If Sony buys Kadokawa it's not bad for customers because the vast majority already have either one or more of the platforms that Kadokawa's games are on, and will continue to get those games if they stopped fearmongering about SIE taking the games away from a dying console platform, that usually contributed the smallest in sales anyway. It's good for customers because it'll mean more technical support for game development. And historically, SIE have been a lot better than Microsoft with managing internal development, growing their studios, and releasing quality games consistently.

Keep in mind I never even fantasized about SIE buying Kadokawa but if talks are happening, all things considered it's likely for the best if both parties want to go ahead with the M&A. Out of a short list of options, Sony is the best choice. Aside that I could see a merger with another Japanese publisher potentially working well (e.g Capcom, Square-Enix, Koei-Tecmo etc.). Other than those the options drop in good outcome considerably, the best out of that lot probably being groups like NetEase or Tencent, and the worst being basically any Western investor group or publisher, especially Embracer (LOL) and Microsoft (also lol, and already burdened with too much to sort out between Zenimax, ABK, and smaller studios like Ninja Theory, Playground, The Initiative, Turn 10 etc.).

Brucey said:
PS5 is going to be well into the 100 million unit range before the gen is done. Maybe 150 million. That's where you focus your resources. They buy games. Series gen will be lucky to hit 30 million.
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Can't see PS5 hitting 150 million unless it's 10-12 year measure, especially if prices remain as they are. And Xbox Series will likely top out at 40 million, maybe slightly higher depending on how long they keep them going.

But of course PlayStation is going to be the priority for them, not even just in the console sense but with all platforms.

Woopah said:
It says "PlayStation platforms accounted for 82% of Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 total console full game dollar sales volume during the October tracking period."

Are we sure the PC numbers are included in that ratio?
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You're right, I misread that part. My apologies.
 
XXL

XXL

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
So if subs are up 16%, that could mean subs are still at the exact same number MS last reported, due to churn, or are even lower than that even with the boost factored in.
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I saw the 16% increase number last night.

I'm not sure COD did much of anything for Xbox in terms of driving new subscribers.

They increased the price of Game Pass this year and I'm pretty sure it was more than a 16% increase.

Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing subscription growth with that number.
 
BennyBlanco

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
You realize I can speak from SIE's POV one moment and my own POV the next, right? Yes, PC growth in Japan is bad for SIE since it's mainly come at the expense of PlayStation market share (mainly with software sales). It's good for gamers in the region because if they're on PC they get more games on their platform now.
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You’re not beating the cheerleader allegations by saying you speak from SIE’s POV and your own in the same posts. Holy fuck.
 
xiskza

xiskza

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onQ123 said:
Everything isn't about politics though , I don't use either but most people on X was already there when it was Twitter & Bluesky being created by Jack who created Twitter just seems like the natural place that people would go if they didn't want their social platform taking over by Elon .
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Except it is. Most people that have fleed there recently are liberals that cant handle a free speech platform like twitter.
Which is why they're all censoring each other there now, even BlueSky admitted its never had so many requests for moderation
Also there are plenty of people that have tested its "moderation", and if you post that "there are only 2 genders" you get a lifetime ban - says all I need to know about the platform
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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XXL said:
I saw the 16% increase number last night.

I'm not sure COD did much of anything for Xbox in terms of driving new subscribers.

They increased the price of Game Pass this year and I'm pretty sure it was more than a 16% increase.

Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing subscription growth with that number.
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You're right, the 16% wasn't subscriptions, but services revenue on Game Pass. So the actual amount of that 16% increase from new subs could be quite low, which would be worst for Microsoft if they want to drive GP growth longer-term.

Short of making COD Xbox and Game Pass-exclusive I don't think there's anything else they can do to drive major growth in the short-to-mid term. And long-term, they might definitely need to get Game Pass on PlayStation and Nintendo somehow, but they'll need to make major changes to their hardware strategy first (either get rid of it completely or change the business model around it so it's not competing with PlayStation and Nintendo).

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You’re not beating the cheerleader allegations by saying you speak from SIE’s POV and your own in the same posts. Holy fuck.
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And what from my POV is me cheerleading for SIE to acquire publishers? Because most of the excuses I'm seeing from people against it are just FUD and hypocritical takes considering they were cheering for MS buying ABK only a year ago.

So in what way is Sony owning Kadokawa somehow worst than Microsoft owning Zenimax & ABK? OTOH, I can think of a lot of ways where the former is better for all parties involved than the latter. I wasn't even completely against MS buying ABK until they started their smear campaign against Sony and enlisting all their astroturfers, shills & senators to talk BS for a whole year.

That's when I really started turning against them acquiring ABK. Sony's traditionalist and SIE's too busy being successful with PlayStation to spend all their time spreading FUD about Xbox.
 
jm89

jm89

Member
Is Xbox waiting for next week for better deals on the x?

Cause right now in the USA and the UK the series x is priced above ps5. Or at least it is in the retailers I checked(Amazon, Walmart and bestbuy)

At this rate they are gonna get crushed by playstation in November like we've never seen before.
 
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fudgybrownie

fudgybrownie

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jm89 said:
Is Xbox waiting for next week for better deals on the x?

Cause right now in the USA and the UK the series x is priced above ps5. Or at least it is in the retailers I checked(Amazon, Walmart and bestbuy)

At this rate they are gonna get crushed by playstation in November like we've never seen before.
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Just checking amazon and no Xbox series consoles in top 100 for video games. That's hella sad. Ps5 has 5 in that list including some bundles.
 
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Esparadrapo

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jm89 said:
Is Xbox waiting for next week for better deals on the x?

Cause right now in the USA and the UK the series x is priced above ps5. Or at least it is in the retailers I checked(Amazon, Walmart and bestbuy)

At this rate they are gonna get crushed by playstation in November like we've never seen before.
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Amy Hood said there's a projection of Xbox declining in "high single digits" because of hardware so I don't think they're going to discount their hardware anywhere near last year. And last year because of the heavy discounting hardware actually grew a 7% so the correction to the standard ~40% decline is going to be brutal.
 
Astray

Astray

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Fess said:
Realistically, can they do that? Can they go back at this point?
Xbox as a console is kinda dead but they still get the monthly tick from current subscribers. I don’t think they would get enough people to go back to purchase games to get the money back from lost GP subscribers if the service is closed. And making their new ”This is an Xbox” platform less appealing by not having a games library would turn them into Stadia and they would lose even more customers.
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They're far likelier to re-calibrate it again (more price hikes and benefit changes), but it's not completely out of the realm of the possible.

Sunsetting a subscription service is relatively simple, just set a timing that's beyond the expiration date of your longest current sub, stop redeeming cards after x time and announce. We've seen it happen more often than you'd think.
 
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Brucey

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jm89 said:
Is Xbox waiting for next week for better deals on the x?

Cause right now in the USA and the UK the series x is priced above ps5. Or at least it is in the retailers I checked(Amazon, Walmart and bestbuy)

At this rate they are gonna get crushed by playstation in November like we've never seen before.
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With ads saying everything is an Xbox, just before black Friday sales, they certainly show all signs of giving up on the hardware front. The ps5 digital bundles are at $375 with disk drive units at $425. I don't see anything xbox can do to series pricing to not make that a tempting value proposition.
 
Fess

Fess

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Astray said:
Sunsetting a subscription service is relatively simple, just set a timing that's beyond the expiration date of your longest current sub
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So 2040 or so then going by some prepayment stories? 😜

Joking aside I think your first scenario is more likely, higher prices. They seem to want to move further into PC gaming so I think they’ll increase the subscription price for PC Gamepass next or cut the day 1 benefit there. But they’re already pushing it in my opinion, we’ll see how it goes, at some point people will just drop the service. I don’t think they can go above $20/month standard price and when the prepayment method are truly gone they’ll see the sub numbers drop fast. I prepaid til 2026 at the equivalent of $5/month, it’s definitely worth that. But $20/month? Nah
 
jm89

jm89

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Absolutley wild how much people will pay for fortnite skins.

The skins in the fortnite ps5 bundle are going for $50+/£50+ on ebay. So if you get these bundles and aren't interested in fortnite, you might be able to get some money back by selling the code for the skins.
 
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jm89

jm89

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mckmas8808 said:
Being neutral in politics isn't true at all. The owner of Twitter has been everything but neutral. Pay attention. "X" is FoxNews at this point and BlueSky is CNN.




This can't be true, can it? Is the price difference that big?
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In the usa it's around $20-$30 dollar diffrence not big.

But in the UK it's pretty big, i haven't checked today but when i made that post there was a £100+ diffrence between ps5 de and xbox series x de, and around £60 diffrence between ps5 disc and xbox series x disc.

They are gonna get there ass kicked if they don't drop the price more.
 
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Brucey

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mckmas8808 said:
Being neutral in politics isn't true at all. The owner of Twitter has been everything but neutral. Pay attention. "X" is FoxNews at this point and BlueSky is CNN.




This can't be true, can it? Is the price difference that big?
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I think the difference is you are free to post any kind of perspective on x. On bluesky you'll be canceled if you don't "tow the line". Irregardless of Elon being a super Trump fanboy of which there is no doubt.

The only deal I've seen for Xbox so far was some free series console with 5g fixed wireless home internet signup bundle. Even if they do crash price drop to $300 for series x I think momentum is absolutely gone and hardcore Xbox owners are gonna move to the ps5 pro.
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
jm89 said:
In the usa it's around $20-$30 dollar diffrence not big.

But in the UK it's pretty big, i haven't checked today but when i made that post there was a £100+ diffrence between ps5 de and xbox series x de, and around £60 diffrence between ps5 disc and xbox series x disc.

They are gonna get there ass kicked if they don't drop the price more.
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Wow, any negative difference at all for the Series consoles is bad. I wasn't expecting this going into Black Friday.
 
kazuyamishima

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I dunno if MS are really throwing the towel or they don’t want to lose more money per unit on the Series S/X.

But the deals are pretty lacklustre everywhere.


The best disc Series X deal in the UK is the official BF price of £459 against the 400 quids disc slim PS5.
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
kazuyamishima said:
I dunno if MS are really throwing the towel or they don’t want to lose more money per unit on the Series S/X.

But the deals are pretty lacklustre everywhere.


The best disc Series X deal in the UK is the official BF price of £459 against the 400 quids disc slim PS5.
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A 60 pound difference in a country that you are selling only 27% of all HD consoles in, is terrible in my opinion. Especially during Black Friday+. It wouldn't shock me if Sony sales around 80% of all HD consoles in the UK for the month of November to Xbox's 20%. A 4-to-1 difference my be in the cards.
 
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onQ123

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mckmas8808 said:
Wow, any negative difference at all for the Series consoles is bad. I wasn't expecting this going into Black Friday.
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I don't want to get banned so I haven't made a thread about it but it looks like it's over for Xbox Series X/S because the holidays used to be the time when Xbox consoles would move all the built up stock .

Looking on the retail & online stores it look like Xbox has given up & left this holiday to PlayStation. Series X/S need help & Xbox is doing promotions that says everything else is an Xbox.
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
onQ123 said:
I don't want to get banned so I haven't made a thread about it but it looks like it's over for Xbox Series X/S because the holidays used to be the time when Xbox consoles would move all the built up stock .

Looking on the retail & online stores it look like Xbox has given up & left this holiday to PlayStation. Series X/S need help & Xbox is doing promotions that says everything else is an Xbox.
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I'm one million percent confused on Xbox's strategy at this point. Where do they go from here? If Holiday 2024 isn't worth pushing consoles for (during a new COD game too), then what will 2025 be for them?
 
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onQ123

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mckmas8808 said:
I'm one million percent confused on Xbox's strategy at this point. Where do they go from here? If Holiday 2024 isn't worth pushing consoles for (during a new COD game too), then what will 2025 be for them?
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They're going to run to the courts like Drake lol

" PlayStation is dominating the home console market & they won't let us install Gamepass & become an Xbox like everyone else please make them open their platform"
 
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onQ123

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Synastry said:
Looking at the current amazon (US) top 100 there are 4 ps5 consoles in the top 100 while not 1 xbox November is looking like a blowout for ps5.

#7 PS5 Slim
#9 PS5 Slim DE
#36 PS5 Slim Fornite bundle
#57 PS5 Slim Disk Fornite bundle
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Don't forget Portal & PSVR2 are also in the top 100 with no signs of Xbox Series.

Portal isn't even on sale but it stayed in the top 100 with everything else that's on sale .
 
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Elios83

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Synastry said:
Looking at the current amazon (US) top 100 there are 4 ps5 consoles in the top 100 while not 1 xbox November is looking like a blowout for ps5.

#7 PS5 Slim
#9 PS5 Slim DE
#36 PS5 Slim Fornite bundle
#57 PS5 Slim Disk Fornite bundle
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Microsoft has given up with Xbox, the lack of significant deals during the holiday season means that they truly don't care anymore.

But PS5 is not really competing with Xbox at this point, it is competing with itself.
The question is if with these deals and the launch of the Pro, Sony can avoid a sales decline compared to last year during the holiday season.
This will determine if in January they will keep their 18m forecast or if it will be revised down.
 
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