Ghost Slayer
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Platinum track records aren't good in term of sales though. All we can hope MS will promote it like Halo 5 or Fallout 4 level
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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Platinum track records aren't good in term of sales though. All we can hope MS will promote it like Halo 5 or Fallout 4 level
If sunset or Tomb raider didn't do well I'm not to optimistic about scalebound.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah thats what I figured but didn't go back to look at some of the older hardware results.
They need NX to be hugely successful, and they need it soon.
The GOTY edition will launch at the same time as the single player DLC?
How are you splitting up the Gameboy? At the very least, it lasted through the fourth and fifth gens.
Not many Japanese games do well on Xbox platforms. The fact that it's a Platinum game too just makes me worry for its sales potential.
DriftingSpirit
Member
You can see it in the software too. Two of the biggest titles (Zelda and Star) for 2016 are only there because of delays. Had they come this year as planned, 2016 would be looking really barren. Even than, we can see that big titles are not notably moving hardware anyway.
The system is dead and waiting until 2017 (late 2017 for holiday launch?) just seems completely unlikely to me.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Why not? Bloodborne is doing that.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Sony didn't release their games with GOTY version on disk (except Bloodborne but it's very limited in EU and not in US). Previous ND games didn't have GOTY version either
OrbitalBeard
Member
Good point. Game Boy did last a really long time. Still, it sold well through most, if not all, of its life.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Has MS ever been successful in marketing something that is kind of off brand for them? Fable maybe? Scalebound just feels like Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey all over again.
I am pretty sure Uncharted 2 had one.
I was being facetious because useally when a game fails publishers just slash and burn. I know that won't happen here. I'm sure whatever the TR deal was it worked out fine in that sense.
Obliterator
Member
Nintendo is in such a rough spot next year even though. I mean PS4 is going to be firing on all cylinders in terms of software.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I doubt Xbox expects Scalebound to sell a lot. It's more of a prestige project. I'm glad they are supporting a game like that, but holiday is an awful time to release it though.
That's how console cycles go. As they get cheaper in price they become more popular with the demographics you've mentioned, which is exactly why you see the 360 leading in those areas.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Can you elaborate on "extended audience"? How much would an extended audience really change things up considering how massive this demographic is?
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Yeah. Sony is an entertainment company, and they take entertainment seriously. Microsoft is a software company, and they view entertainment as a means to an end - and that strategy has been absolutely catastrophic for them this gen. They took their eye off the ball and fucked up the hardware, and there's no way they'll be able to pull a PS3 and bounce back with the sort of IP they've got in the pipeline.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
Is like a recipe for disaster. Japanese game, Exclusive to Xbox One, Platinum Game, the only way it could be worse is if Square Enix was planning the release date and the marketing.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Nintendo's future will no longer be wholly tied to video games. They won't be able to survive otherwise. They seem to have some good plans in place, so hopefully it works out. I can't wait to see what they have in store next year and beyond. Nintendo's future is that of an entertainment brand.
DarthWalden
Banned
And they don't release it in the middle of a bloated holiday season... seriously a game like that in mid febuary with nothing else to compete with has a chance to be successful but put it out in the middle of November and your sending it to die as it gets eaten up by CoD sales.
Look at games like evolve and BF:H heck even a Bloodbourne. Those games would have bombed if they released in November but instead they sell a ton.
Both systems are in a better position than they were last year so if they survived this year then they can survive next year. If Nintendo did some price cutting they could make then survive for even longer.
RichiRamjag
Member
Yeah, on second thought, many of you may be correct.
Ghost Slayer
Member
3DS can still and will limp on to something respectable. Next year should be better for software at least. I really think a lot of people forget how bad its release lineup was this year. It was atrocious really. In terms of big games it was much worse than Wii U. It just coasted by on evergreens, spin-offs, and niche titles. Wii U I'm sure was given up on a long time ago, so any sales there are considered fine.
That being said, I'm sure NX is being planned for a 2016 release. Doesn't mean it'll happen, but that's surely the plan. Until we see what it is there's no point in guessing how well it will sell. What matters is if it's something attractive that people want. We won't know that for awhile.
That being said, I'm sure NX is being planned for a 2016 release. Doesn't mean it'll happen, but that's surely the plan. Until we see what it is there's no point in guessing how well it will sell. What matters is if it's something attractive that people want. We won't know that for awhile.
fluffydelusions
Member
Inefficiency in going out of one's way to spend mind and time on something they dislike.
The mind boggles.
Goodacre0081
Member
I don't think Microsoft is funding Scalebound because they are expecting it to sell well. They are funding it to establish that they are home to more than Halo/Gears/Forza. There has been a concentrated re-branding initiative over the past two years, and this is almost certainly part of it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
No one is saying they wouldn't survive in 2016 without new hardware. Survival isn't enough though. Blackberry is currently "surviving".
Yup, they'll have to leverage their IPs like they've been doing.
So their consoles won't light up the charts but they'll have income from apps, the theme park, amiibos, movie deals, etc.
Seems like the best way to go I think. Making a system that can directly compete with the ps4/xb1 isn't the best idea.
The people that show up once a console drops enough in price to be a legitimate impulse buy or a gift for a child.
3DS looks good until you remember that the n3DS launched this year. Outside of that launch, I'm pretty sure the 3DS has been generally down over 2014.
RichiRamjag
Member
Making a killing on these amiibos, right? Hell, I had to order a mega yarn yoshi for my wife from Amazon.de just to avoid scalpers since it was sold out here or on sale for 70-90 bucks on eBay.
I'm guessing timelines will be identical to The Last Of Us. They won't do a GOTY edition until after the Season Pass content is all done.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Amiibo is just the first step. They need to go much further than that and it looks like they're going to.
Unless there's a performance clause that allows SE to release on competing platforms earlier than planned if the game tanks on X1. I'm not sure how often contacts are drawn up with such clauses in this industry though.
IMO when you consider everything 240k isn't bad.
Considering Splatoon and Mario Maker only noteworthy releases in last 6 months.
Rumors of the new console as early as next year.
To stay Flat YOY is actually good IMO
Baroquemantic
Member
I hope Scalebound does well. It has dragons for Christ sake! Dragons. I don't even care for or particularly like Platinum, but Scalebound is the XB1 game I'm most interested in. And did I mention dragons?
Ghost Slayer
Member
Depend of what budget for Scalebound, Activision-Platinum games like Transformer could be ignored about bad sales since it's budget game anyway. When I look at Scalebound (big world/dragons/generic main character aim to Western audience/action-RPG), I don't think it's small project or something that MS want to sell just "well"
eh, it's still bad.
being flat YOY is nice....except when you remember that the previous year was also bad.
EDIT:
I wonder, what was the last time PS2 was a leading SKU for a charting game?
That'd be interesting.
Wii has one 9 years after release. Wonder if the PS2 pulled something similar. Or DS.
Seriously. NX will have its best chance in Japan, and 2016 will be the year in which japanese software really shines on PS4. Good luck I guess.
DarthWalden
Banned
Tomb raider next august before all the big releases would sell really well. Hopefully Microsoft Works with square here.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Why?
Crystal Dynamics wanted to be exclusive, if that's the result, they just have to live with it.
SE will probably relaunch it next year on other platforms.
Wth, that is so disgusting lol
I'd buy it again if it released in summer. But if it releases in fall...
OrbitalBeard
Member
NX is probably going to have a portable SKU. PS4 isn't likely to be much of an issue for its chances in Japan.