Thank you very much for these numbers, nefarious George!
Are you able to tell the software split PS4 vs. Xbox One for this one, including bundles, just so a major conversation point of this thread can be concluded?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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Thank you very much for these numbers, nefarious George!
Are you able to tell the software split PS4 vs. Xbox One for this one, including bundles, just so a major conversation point of this thread can be concluded?
Hidden One
Member
I feel bad for Infinity ward because whatever shit they cook up isn't selling nowhere near Based 3Arc Blops 3.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
according to zhuge.. you'd be right apparently
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/675367376465055744
Sorry, this is going to be a quick reply as I'm leaving in a hurry. I appreciate the degree to which you've replied with, and I apologise if any of my comments have offended you (I am often too brash posting).
Regarding the first bolded, for games, definitely, I wholeheartedly agree. I didn't go down that route personally because of the market for jobs here in the UK, but I'm presuming those people aren't open to normal/senior/lead software engineer roles? Personally, If I was in that boat, I'd accept the best of a bad bunch and wait until something special to come along. I wouldn't narrow my self down to one area of development, even if that's where my passion lay.
Second point. That is an eye opener to me, I've had a PM which expressed similar reasoning. I've never been to US, so I've simply been blind to the culture and the sheer distance of locations of work. For example, in the UK, you can be 1 hour drive away from 3 major cities which all have potential offerings and are feasible for a daily commute. Whereas, I can imagine in the US, that's not possible wherever you are.
It's likely but it's better to wait someone with NPD data to confirm.
Birgitte2004
Member
Digital percentage will of course grow, the question is by how much.
The way I view it is, the first 10-20% or so are easy. These are the people who genuinely want to switch and do so immediately.
The rest are far harder. Maybe they just like physical. Maybe they are disgusted at digital pricing. Maybe they don't have high speed internet, or have caps. Maybe they aren't even tech savvy enough to think about it, they just keep doing what they always have.
Regardless of the reasoning, unless the issue gets forced, it probably won't keep up the speed of adoption the early adopters might wish. CDs still exist in spite of all the pundits saying they'd be dead nearly 20 years ago, and songs are only a few meg to download so far easier to manage.
Based on all his posts thus far, I'm pretty sure he does have NPD data, or at least some of it. He hasn't been wrong about anything pertaining to this month yet.
harrisk954
Member
It seems kind of safe to say that, at least for November, Zhuge does have NPD data.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
I know I only ever read that it would be 20 percent. I didn't see anyone say otherwise. I must have missed those 30 percent comments
Luckydog
Member
according to zhuge.. you'd be right apparently
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/675367376465055744
I stand corrected then if accurate. Wow that a mainline Halo game can't do 1.5mm retail this far past its launch regardless of what the digital and bundle numbers are.
CosmicQueso
Member
killin me
De-mon
Member
Yeah, someone like... ZhugeEX.
EdReedFan20
Member
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
CosmicQueso
Member
1.2
When he was in GAF he didn't had. Isn't clear for me so I prefer to have a confirmation from George or Queso.
Is this what I think it is?
anexanhume
Member
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right?
lawd
He posted a reaction mere minutes after the NPD report release, well before PR. What more confirmation are you looking for?
Welfare
Member
With or with bundles?
If no bundles are included, then standalone Halo 5 did >358k.
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right?
Lmao
anyways congrats on the gap sony!
gundamkyoukai
Member
Man i knew UC4 would out sell halo WW but i never thought it might be able to be to close to it in the USA.
30-40 is incoherent nonsense when it was 33%? Sure darling.
Obliterator
Member
I fully believe digital week one sales for these titles is growing substantially. I'm not using this as evidence to disregard any numbers anywhere but I fully believe that this grouo of AAA games this holiday had the highest digital attatch rate at launch in the history of the industry
Where did you get this out of curiosity?
That'd be a big improvement over charting below Yoshi in month 1.
Edit: With the bundles it makes total sense actually, but I hardly think you can attribute bundle sales to the popularity of Uncharted.
Welfare
Member
He's had it for the last two months.
Things aren't a coincidence if you really read certain posts.
Yeah, after Queso already said something here.
I like ZhugeEX, the guy loves to talk about sales, but for me isn't clear that he has access to NPD.
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right?
Thing with RotTR is that the other versions were/are already being worked on. All it did really is delay the development or cost of making the other versions, at the cost of more sales. Presumably because Microsoft paid for that privilege.
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right?
My goodness, this guy is clawing for something, anything.
"With your halo slipping down..."
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
according to zhuge.. you'd be right apparently
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/675367376465055744
Star is dimming but that is still impressive for a single territory of sales. Not sure many or any PS4 exclusives have sold that much in NA alone. However, things fall apart for MS exclusives outside of UK/NA, and is where Sony's games make up a ton of ground.
Wonder what effect MS becoming so NA dependent and trailing in NA by what is now over a million units in NA has had on MS games strategy. Sony can get weird and experimental because they have global appeal, MS lacks that global appeal.
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
Stubborn to the end
HORRORSHØW
Member
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
lmao this clown
...Scatter...
Banned
LOL -
"I don't know how much you know about marketing. I'm an expert
.."
Man you take this too serious. Dont be a clown. You want him to lead marketing with:
"We at XBOX accept our L and bow to our PlayStation overlords. Please consider us as your second console. Try our middling games while waiting for Uncharted 4 please".
Isn't that entirely based on Aaron Greenberg saying combined for all 3 is over 3 million, and then just subtracting ps4 and xbone?
He rounded down that 3 million number, we don't know the actual total right?
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right?
He's consistent, gotta give him that.
But weren't digital sales already over 2 billion?according to zhuge.. you'd be right apparently
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/675367376465055744
piccio_ssl
Member
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
halo 5? dayum
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yep some of Sony IPs get save by WW sales .
MS just don't have that option at all this gen .
Ah, bummer then. At least it's doing pretty well in Japan.
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
Wow super pathetic.
It's funny that it always seems like the people who aren't the brightest also always seem to be the most stubborn.
Plague Doctor
Member
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
But.. they are going to have to pay for it eventually and the sales potential is presumably lower than a uniform multiplatform launch?
I don't get why he's holding onto this flame. Is it a case of being so wrapped into a preset narrative that you try to find any logic that might fit it?
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
Nintendo is one of my favorite publishers, and I have to say, how they handled themselves this holiday season is crushingly disappointing.
The only Nintendo game I have fallen in love with this holiday season is Xenoblade Chronicles X, which I have sunk hundreds of hours into since its release.
And this is reflected by a string of disappointing sales performances in various titles in Nintendo of America's holiday lineup.
In the November 2015 U.S. Games Sales Industry report, Nintendo the publisher suffered from a 61% yearly decline in retail software sales, now representing less than 6% of the total software market.
One of my most favorite Nintendo IPs was Mario Tennis. I absolutely adored the GameCube, Nintendo 64, Game Boy Color, and Game Boy Advance iterations.
But I didn't even bother to purchase Mario Tennis Ultra Smash because of how soulless it felt. And this seems to be reflected in consumer sentiment.
Way back in November 2004, the Nintendo GameCube's "Mario Power Tennis" sold 98.1K copies in its launch.
Now in November 2015, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash couldn't even sell half of that 100K figure.
And even Animal Crossing has regressed significantly. In November 2008 Animal Crossing: City Folk sold 196.4K on its launch according to NPD Group data.
But 'Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival' is far below that benchmark. A solid amount below even half of that 200K figure.
And back in the day, people thought City Folk was a flop.
Luckily, it seems that these two titles were made cheaply and seem to act as spinoffs to pad out the Wii U library before NX releases, so poor performances under the 6-figure mark in the holiday season won't have too much financial impact on the company.
And there is always digital. But still.
The only Nintendo game I have fallen in love with this holiday season is Xenoblade Chronicles X, which I have sunk hundreds of hours into since its release.
And this is reflected by a string of disappointing sales performances in various titles in Nintendo of America's holiday lineup.
In the November 2015 U.S. Games Sales Industry report, Nintendo the publisher suffered from a 61% yearly decline in retail software sales, now representing less than 6% of the total software market.
One of my most favorite Nintendo IPs was Mario Tennis. I absolutely adored the GameCube, Nintendo 64, Game Boy Color, and Game Boy Advance iterations.
But I didn't even bother to purchase Mario Tennis Ultra Smash because of how soulless it felt. And this seems to be reflected in consumer sentiment.
Way back in November 2004, the Nintendo GameCube's "Mario Power Tennis" sold 98.1K copies in its launch.
Now in November 2015, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash couldn't even sell half of that 100K figure.
And even Animal Crossing has regressed significantly. In November 2008 Animal Crossing: City Folk sold 196.4K on its launch according to NPD Group data.
But 'Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival' is far below that benchmark. A solid amount below even half of that 200K figure.
And back in the day, people thought City Folk was a flop.
Luckily, it seems that these two titles were made cheaply and seem to act as spinoffs to pad out the Wii U library before NX releases, so poor performances under the 6-figure mark in the holiday season won't have too much financial impact on the company.
And there is always digital. But still.
Zhuge answered with "not good".bummer
I knew Yokai Watch would bomb. I was shocked that they tried bringing it to the West at all. It's a bunch of unattractive characters based on Japanese cultural ideas that would ring completely hollow for any other culture. There's no way it would have had traction outside of Japan.
