Portable gaming is done outside of japan. Nintendo might as well make the next portable Japan exclusive. And release the console version outside of it.
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NPD Sales Results for September 2015 [Up2: Nintendo Numbers]
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Portable gaming is done outside of japan. Nintendo might as well make the next portable Japan exclusive. And release the console version outside of it.
That was my logic before MGS5 launched too, but that hunger didn't make more people buy The Phantom Pain either. That's why I'm more hesitant now to expect UC4 to grow substantially in the US.
Uncharted just doesn't appeal to the US core market aesthetically.
The other Senran Kagura was digital only and sold well enough to convince xseed to bring the rest of the series.
Meanwhile Mirai sales are actually higher than Project Diva PS3 sales which were around 17k or something.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
HOLY SHIT
Those are terrible sales for Senran Kagura 2. Though I admit most people I knew bought the game online.
Guess I wont be streetpassing anyone with the game outside of Anime Expo
Obliterator
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I'm dreading next month's thread a bit. Both scenarios will be full of posturing:
"Halo 5 released and still couldn't win? Wow! Clearly the Xbox and Halo brand are damaged forever. Next month will be interesting."
"A price drop and still couldn't win? Wow! Clearly momentum has been lost forever. Next month will be interesting."
Whatever happens, we all lose
October NPD Thread Preview
I'd be interested in seeing the Project Diva F 2nd sales, and the Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (Vita) NPD for comparison. Too bad we can't get Diva F Vita sales.
I suppose it's OK for Vita / Mirai, because the localization of these titles is fairly easy. But Senran Kagura has more investment of text.
Holy shit... it did better than its predecessor? (Miku) The series has sold more, the difference comes in RoI as Mirai, unlike Diva F, is not built as a microtransaction platform and so may have been less profitable (of course we'd need to factor in dev costs disparities). Of course, one could say this doesn't prevent a future Diva F-like title coming to the 3DS as a DLC platform to take advantage of the base but, then, Mirai is a different aesthetic and appeal.
Kagura 2 was a 50$ retail purchase, its predecessor was digital only and has no known numbers.
All platforms are "rocking" the Japanese games in NA.
DriftingSpirit
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Eh, I don't think too many people will be saying that about PS4. From what I have seen, I think most think X1 should take October.I'm dreading next month's thread a bit. Both scenarios will be full of posturing:
"Halo 5 released and still couldn't win? Wow! Clearly the Xbox and Halo brand are damaged forever. Next month will be interesting."
"A price drop and still couldn't win? Wow! Clearly momentum has been lost forever. Next month will be interesting."
Whatever happens, we all lose
i'm pretty out of the loop these days to be honest
RyanPierre
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I was really hoping to see something about the THPS5 numbers
Not sure why we're taking Miku and Senran Kagura as serious barometers for the state of the 3DS. Those would be small on any platform, and Senran honestly did better than I thought it would. That is ultra niche and going for $50. Happy Home Designer doing just okay should be a better place to discuss the system, though it's a thing I don't see the American market liking too much. If you want to call 3DS dooooomed, wait for next month when Chibi-Robo bombs and Triforce Heroes fails to chart.
Well, the reason I was shocked was because I assumed the numbers would be higher, my bad.
However without the numbers from the Vita members of the family to compare against, I suppose being shocked was a bad idea... for all I know, these series have always had such a low baseline.
theprodigy
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#champion is so 2013/early 2014 breh
KillerMan91
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Monthly 3DS vs PSP comparison chart
Even with price drop for 2DS and normal New3DS bundle 3DS was down yoy. Still of course ahead in ytd sales thanks to New3DS launch in february. We shall se if it holds trough the holidays. Close race also with PSP but 3DS still should have better holidays than PSP in 2009.
Code:
3DS 2015 PSP 2009 NDS 2009 3DS 2014
January 74 172 510 97
February 395 199 588 153
March 265 168 563 159
April 116 116 1040 106
May 97 100 633 97
June 124* 163 766 152
July 104 123 539 108
August 77 140 552 91
September 123 190 524 140
October 174 457 138
November 293 1700 515
December 654 3310 810
Through
September 1375 1371 5715 1104
Total 2492 11182 2566Even with price drop for 2DS and normal New3DS bundle 3DS was down yoy. Still of course ahead in ytd sales thanks to New3DS launch in february. We shall se if it holds trough the holidays. Close race also with PSP but 3DS still should have better holidays than PSP in 2009.
Probably because Vita hasn't been selling in 2nd since....right about that time. PS4 is #champion now.
I'm dreading next month's thread a bit. Both scenarios will be full of posturing:
"Halo 5 released and still couldn't win? Wow! Clearly the Xbox and Halo brand are damaged forever. Next month will be interesting."
"A price drop and still couldn't win? Wow! Clearly momentum has been lost forever. Next month will be interesting."
Whatever happens, we all lose
PS4 is fine, people will see a loss as expected. All the pressure is on Xbox One in the month of the big exclusive.
This is the comparison to Project Diva F, which was only available on PS at launch.
It was only available on Vita months later, digital exclusive.
freefornow
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So Best Buy is offering $150 trade in towards Xbox One console from 18th Oct to 24th Oct.
Trying to make October more interesting?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xbox-one/xbox-one-consoles/pcmcat303600050004.c?id=pcmcat303600050004&ref=199&loc=te1Fq2FCseg&acampID=1&siteID=te1Fq2FCseg-Yy.RGjHD05AnFLtbI47a0Q
Trying to make October more interesting?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xbox-one/xbox-one-consoles/pcmcat303600050004.c?id=pcmcat303600050004&ref=199&loc=te1Fq2FCseg&acampID=1&siteID=te1Fq2FCseg-Yy.RGjHD05AnFLtbI47a0Q
3DS outsells Wii U even outside Japan. It makes complete sense for Nintendo to continue to bring handhelds out internationally because even if handheld gaming is done, their handheld gaming division is still doing better than their console gaming division. In addition, niche games like Hatsune Miku and Senran Kagura are not the best barometer for the success of a platform in selling games.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I know one thing. With Tearaway selling like shit and DQ Heroes selling like shit ( #211 overall in Videogames on Amazon, #79 on PS4 only ) our game selection is going to get slimmer and slimmer in the future. I swear it is amazing how often threads are made around here talking about wanting diversity in products or wanting DQ to come out west or wanting character action titles or 3D platformers and when the shit actually comes out, no one buys it. Doesn't matter if it was great or not. PS fanbase used to support these types of products.
Augh. Atleast we have emulators I guess.
With these DQ Heroes numbers I'm starting to wonder if we actually will get DQXI over here. Next month we will probably see a DQ<100k cream post.
Augh. Atleast we have emulators I guess.
With these DQ Heroes numbers I'm starting to wonder if we actually will get DQXI over here. Next month we will probably see a DQ<100k cream post.
Microsoft is very close to Best Buy these days.
Welfare
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Gamestop has a trade in deal for $100 for both systems that lasts an entire month.
Bottom of this page http://www.gamestop.com/trade
DriftingSpirit
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They were delayed because NPD needed to update their infrastructure or something of that nature. Things will return to normal next month.
But the predecesor to Mirai is F 2nd
Probably because when we asked for Dragon Quest we didn't have in mind a Dynasty Warriors type game with a Dragon Quest skin. A spin-off should have come after they gathered the Dragon Quest fanbase on the console, not before (especially for a niche series/genre in the west).
Apparently, we have no data for this title.
Looks like we missed our chance at creamsugar roulette.
well, that's unfortunate.
Even comparing to Diva F, fans obviously knew about the vita version so that could impact sales. It was one of those 'commonly' imported games too.
We may as well start discussing heat waves then.
I don't think the snark is warranted when all that I'm saying is that the comparison is flawed.
If we don't have reliable data to compare both titles, then we might as well don't do it.
Several of us have already said that the comparison is a poor one because of the nature of the two different titles of Miku. The original post that started all of this was just completely bombastic over a numeric value... which we can only compare to other numeric values we posses.
The reason I made my snark is because what you listed just aren't usually seen as any more statistically relevant than saying "a heat wave" or "everyone's waiting on Forza 6".
Nah, that's not an indication either. No one ever cared about Chibi Robo, why should that suddenly change now?
hodayathink
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Obliterator
Member
If you want to see something really interesting here for October check this
GameStop $100 trade in from either PS3 or 360 towards either PS4 or Xbone
http://www.gamestop.com/deals
Every time they do this hardware sales for the month go way up
Edit: This will affect November NPD as well, it goes all the way until November 21st.
True, but it's still a 2D platformer (which performs well on the 3DS) and has an amiibo bundled (their popularity is overstated, but it'll probably help a little). But if we're going to say handhelds are dead we're better off looking at games that normally do well(platformer and Zelda) on the 3DS instead of a quirky rhythm game and a fanservice beat-em up.
Now I don't think either Chibi-Robo or Triforce Heroes will underperform because they're on the 3DS, but because neither are actually that appealing. As you said, no one cares about CR, and TH is a multiplayer spin-off of a normally single-player series.
October is going to be fascinating.
Of course it's not going to make 100k in it's US debut. Why would it? These niche Japanese games don't pull these sorts of numbers in their Western launch. Senran Kagura, Project Mirai, and Persona 4 DAN all came out in September. None of them broke 30k. Keep your sales expectations in line and pray Square does the same.
I still find this odd too. Its on damn near every platform....expect Nintendo. So far I see its left off Nintendo and BB. BB running Android apps in an emulator/VM and their upcoming Android phone might make it moot but its not on BB OS.
The HW sales tell all the story we need to hear. And its because of the huge and vast 3ds library that's been built up till now that has allowed it to even sell as much as it has. They won't be as blessed next time to even built a foothold.
OrbitalBeard
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3DS just has a really bad holiday lineup this year (it's only slightly better than Wii U's offerings). It's so blatantly obvious that 2016 is going to be a big turning point for Nintendo. 3DS and Wii U have both overstayed their welcome and it's time for something new.
What HW sales suggest is that neither consoles nor handhelds will do as well as they did last generation.
alexandros
Banned
Is that YoY drop-off the reason Sony dropped the price of the console? Or is it acting preemptively to avoid last year's holiday situation?
Or perhaps last September saw the launch of the biggest new IP of this generation? I don't know, it's just a guess... /s
alexandros
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Boombloxer
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There's literally no way to follow these threads and not know that.