• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

NPD: Switch is the top selling hardware in the US this year so far, Nintendo top publisher; neither shows signs of changing anytime soon

dirthead

Banned
Flat out the Switch is the single worst platform to own standalone, you've got Nintendo games and that's just about it. Nintendo has diversity of their own but the cost is too high, they've relegated themselves to side-system status because you miss too much from everyone else for it to be a lone viability.

It's even worse than that. Their exclusives have never been lower quality relative to the competition. I can't justify buying a Nintendo machine for the exclusives anymore. They're simply not must haves like they used to be through the Gamecube.

Nintendo hasn't published a Metroid Prime level game since...Metroid Prime.
 

zcaa0g

Banned
131.gif


Insulting other people for liking something that you personally don't like and you considered yourself as more "mature" person. For fuck sake, do you even read what your are posting?


Playing BoTW as an adult is the equivalent of an adult playing with G.I. Joe action figures. For fuck sake, do you even realize that you are playing a toddler's game?
 

clem84

Gold Member
Clearly not, the Wii U had the games too but we all know how that panned out.
That's an interesting point. I'd say it's a combination of the two. The WiiU had some very good games, but it obviously wasn't enough.

The quality of the games has to be there, but you need more. Consumers have so many choices nowadays for gaming hardware so they have to feel like they're getting something out of this new machine they're investing money in. The Switch's success shows that, right now, convenience is a major selling point. I don't think this is going to change anytime soon.
 
D

Deleted member 738976

Unconfirmed Member
Playing BoTW as an adult is the equivalent of an adult playing with G.I. Joe action figures. For fuck sake, do you even realize that you are playing a toddler's game?
I suppose everyone should go for more mature games with adult themes instead...

Realistic graphics and realistic themes... A masterpiece worthy of being a movie instead of a game.
9088

This is the future of video games for mature adult gamers.

Although maybe I could use less sarcasm against your shitpost and use Gj-Joe also but not with the figures.

Here is Zelda as Gi-Joe. Sure it's kiddy looking but at least it's a fun and enjoyable.
gijoe-80s.jpg


and here is this not so fun cinematic garbage for "mature audiences" you'd mostly find on the other consoles.

MV5BMTQzMTU1NzQwNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDg4NzMzMw@@._V1_.jpg
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Saruhashi

Banned
It's more about the rising number of adult aged people that never got out of puberty. I'm concerned about the planet's future.

Hahaha. I bet you only play big boy games on your big boy Playstation?

Jesus fuck, sad times when playing "adult" games with "graphics" is the video game equivalent of Huggies Pull-Ups.



"I'm a big kid look what I can do. I've been playing Red Dead 2."
"Mommy, wow! I'm a big kid now".
 

Saruhashi

Banned
Playing BoTW as an adult is the equivalent of an adult playing with G.I. Joe action figures. For fuck sake, do you even realize that you are playing a toddler's game?

What's the adult equivalent of trying to get "steet cred" by bragging about all the "grown up" videogames you play?

Did mommy promise to buy you Mortal Kombat if you stop pissing the bed and eating crayons?

I think the last time I head this shit was back in school.
Fuckin, Lego eaters arguing that Mortal Kombat is better than Street Fighter because it has blood and "realistic" graphics.
 
Last edited:

Birdo

Banned
Not really shocking that a console aimed at little kids sells more than ones marketed for adults.

They are practically in a different market than MS and Sony.
 

Saruhashi

Banned
Here is Zelda as Gi-Joe. Sure it's kiddy looking but at least it's a fun and enjoyable.
gijoe-80s.jpg


and here is this not so fun cinematic garbage for "mature audiences".

MV5BMTQzMTU1NzQwNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDg4NzMzMw@@._V1_.jpg

Actually, it is pretty likely that the thinking behind the GI Joe movie is exactly that.

People are probably not going to go and watch a GI Joe animated movie no matter how good it is simply because of that "cartoons are for kids" mindset.
So it MUST be live action. Doesn't matter if the story is garbage.
Even though there are probably hundreds of kids movies that are far better than GI Joe, Transformers etc.

That desire for there to be a live action adaptation of basically every successful animation is very similar to how every successful foreign movie needs a Hollywood adaptation.

There's a sad insecurity at the heart of it, in my opinion.
 
D

Deleted member 738976

Unconfirmed Member
Actually, it is pretty likely that the thinking behind the GI Joe movie is exactly that.

People are probably not going to go and watch a GI Joe animated movie no matter how good it is simply because of that "cartoons are for kids" mindset.
So it MUST be live action. Doesn't matter if the story is garbage.
Even though there are probably hundreds of kids movies that are far better than GI Joe, Transformers etc.

That desire for there to be a live action adaptation of basically every successful animation is very similar to how every successful foreign movie needs a Hollywood adaptation.

There's a sad insecurity at the heart of it, in my opinion.
You seem to know what I was getting at. It just doesn't matter how something looks or not if there's no fun to be had with it.
 

MagnesG

Banned
Switch Mini at $200
Switch Pro for $350
Current Switch $250

Let's fucking go. I'm predicting the Mini launch first for Sword and Shield.
 
The topic is about switch sales which are good and holding up, and that is great and well deserved.

About maturity issues. I am a father of 3 kids, I have been playing both NES and SMS (Europe here) and Mega Drive and SNES as a kid (I want to say that I'm not a "N.tard"). Now I play mostly on Switch and PC (when I have time between daddy day care and work).
 
Not really shocking that a console aimed at little kids sells more than ones marketed for adults.

They are practically in a different market than MS and Sony.
Well the funny thing out of all of this is Nintendo outright stating that they won't censor 3rd party games as opposed to what Sony has been doing.

So the console supposedly aimed at little kids is sold by a company acting more adult than the other company who wants to infantalize its userbase.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Not really shocking that a console aimed at little kids sells more than ones marketed for adults.

They are practically in a different market than MS and Sony.
I said this before, these days kids play more games like GTA online, COD and Fortnite more than Nintendo games, I bet you anything the reason Sony going crazy with censorship recently because there are more kids playing PS4.
 

Shaqazooloo

Member
So, I guess we're going back to the 90s/early 2000s where we say Nintendo is for babies and somehow saying this doesn't make you look like a complete joke?
 

Birdo

Banned
I bet you anything the reason Sony going crazy with censorship recently because there are more kids playing PS4.

And I'd bet that Sony's censorship is more to do with avoiding negative press from game "Journalists" than it is protecting children.
 

checkcola

Member
Nintendo taking a pass on Sony's woke censorship, they kind of get to occupy the space where the Vita should have with those kind of nitch titles.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Exactly how many adult rated Switch games are there that even need censoring? :messenger_grinning_squinting:
Pretty sure we don't have to worry the Demons in SMTV going get censored also Catherine Full Body has zero sex or nudity and yet it might get because of Sony's policy.
 

Stuart360

Member
Not really shocking that a console aimed at little kids sells more than ones marketed for adults.

They are practically in a different market than MS and Sony.
Actually it is a bit as the average age for a gamer in 2019 is 37 (i think its 37, i read that somewhere), why do you think so many games are adult rated?.
 

Kenpachii

Member
g-g-g-graphics whore! Yeah, Nintendo is cheap. This is new to you? You think Nintendo just started doing this shit? Ever since gaming started becoming a thing back in the 80's this has been Nintendo's business model, Gunpei Yokoi's "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology". Take technology that is cheaper to produce and well understood and make the best of it. Those graphics you posted sure are pretty, but they can go fuck themselves. I've played and seen way to many "good looking games" on PC that are boring as fuck. Big Idea's that never come to fruition, because it's too fucking expensive. For everybody. You don't like the graphics. Then don't buy it.
Also, don't compare some BS forest to some shitty looking Nintendo game that's going to sell gangbusters, copies and systems alike.

So basically there hardware is nothing but DRM at this point.
 

TLZ

Banned
g-g-g-graphics whore! Yeah, Nintendo is cheap. This is new to you? You think Nintendo just started doing this shit? Ever since gaming started becoming a thing back in the 80's this has been Nintendo's business model, Gunpei Yokoi's "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology". Take technology that is cheaper to produce and well understood and make the best of it. Those graphics you posted sure are pretty, but they can go fuck themselves. I've played and seen way to many "good looking games" on PC that are boring as fuck. Big Idea's that never come to fruition, because it's too fucking expensive. For everybody. You don't like the graphics. Then don't buy it.
Also, don't compare some BS forest to some shitty looking Nintendo game that's going to sell gangbusters, copies and systems alike.
If you're talking portables. The Famicom all the way up to GameCube that was never the case. For home consoles it started with the Wii, which was a redesigned upclocked GameCube with new controllers, then Wii u and now Switch. With the Switch it's understandable because they went portable with this one.
 

Cynn

Member
Rolling out a mini-switch along side PKMN this fall will really rocket them ahead as well. I’ve owned a Switch since launch and I’ve never really considered it a portable due to size and battery issues.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
Rolling out a mini-switch along side PKMN this fall will really rocket them ahead as well. I’ve owned a Switch since launch and I’ve never really considered it a portable due to size and battery issues.
Rocket them ahead of what? They are quite literally playing with themselves right now while Sony and Microsoft are off of the board while preparing the roll out of the next generation.
 

Meesh

Member
Interesting tweets... if Xbox and PS are even more powerful, how much of a bump will Switch need in the future though for downgraded ports to make sense? (Loving the ports btw.)
 

oagboghi2

Member
No, I'm expecting that if you're going to enter the console space make it competent enough to do so. The system is towing the graphical lines between a Wii U and the original Wii depending on games.

It's like a jack of all trades that's only good at one of them.
What is that thing? Having good games?

Like seriously we are still doing this graphics whore crap? People guy games, not screenshots and tech demos
 

dirthead

Banned
I don't understand why people pretend that the Switch is a normal console like the PS4 and Xbox One. It's just a portable that has the option to plug into a TV. It's closer to the 3DS than it is the PS4.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I don't understand why people pretend that the Switch is a normal console like the PS4 and Xbox One. It's just a portable that has the option to plug into a TV. It's closer to the 3DS than it is the PS4.
Here is better question, Why people like you are so upset about the fact Switch system selling well to the point you have rationalize it as "not being normal console" to make yourself feel better? Here is an idea, why not do what any reasonable person do and ignore what you don't like and enjoy what you do like, there is no real reason be upset about it.

You can go ahead call Switch whatever you want that makes feel better but the fact is Switch selling well and people buy it because it has games people want to play.
 

dirthead

Banned
Here is better question, Why people like you are so upset about the fact Switch system selling well to the point you have rationalize it as "not being normal console" to make yourself feel better? Here is an idea, why not do what any reasonable person do and ignore what you don't like and enjoy what you do like, there is no real reason be upset about it.

You can go ahead call Switch whatever you want that makes feel better but the fact is Switch selling well and people buy it because it has games people want to play.

I'm not upset about it selling well. I like that there's a portable machine that people can write homebrew for.
 

Saruhashi

Banned
I don't understand why people pretend that the Switch is a normal console like the PS4 and Xbox One. It's just a portable that has the option to plug into a TV. It's closer to the 3DS than it is the PS4.

Why does it need to be characterized as "pretending"?

Was there some set of laws written up about what is and is not a "normal console"?

If some dude is playing his Switch in docked mode then who really gives a fuck if he thinks it's a normal console or not?

Such a fucking weird thing to care about.

Yeah, if you want to be pedantic, it's a "hybrid" console or some other name, I don't know.
Seems like the most irrelevant thing.
Oh, shit people are playing a Nintendo videogame on their TV and "pretending" it's a normal console.

Fair enough if it was something like pretending sandpaper is toilet paper. :)
 

Saruhashi

Banned
Here is better question, Why people like you are so upset about the fact Switch system selling well to the point you have rationalize it as "not being normal console" to make yourself feel better? Here is an idea, why not do what any reasonable person do and ignore what you don't like and enjoy what you do like, there is no real reason be upset about it.

You can go ahead call Switch whatever you want that makes feel better but the fact is Switch selling well and people buy it because it has games people want to play.

But they are pretending it's a normal console! The absolute heathens!

Playstation and XBox are the only normal consoles with big boy graphics, not kiddie graphics.
They have games with blood and bad words and everything!
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
Playing BoTW as an adult is the equivalent of an adult playing with G.I. Joe action figures. For fuck sake, do you even realize that you are playing a toddler's game?
This is quite honestly the most asinine thing that I have read since at least the Inquisition. And if you look at some of the threads I have been a part of that should say something.
 

Saruhashi

Banned
What is that thing? Having good games?

Like seriously we are still doing this graphics whore crap? People guy games, not screenshots and tech demos

I dunno. I find it endlessly amusing.

I was growing up in that Super Nintendo vs Sega Genisis/MegaDrive era and so would have been one of those "graphics" kids.

By the time PS2, PS3 etc came out I was already over that shit and now I'm just happy to have time to actually play games.
I never got into PC gaming cos it's too much hassle and too much investment (time and money) for me personally.

I could only really understand the "graphics" stuff coming from PC gamers who are investing time and research and effort and money into making their setup have the best possible performance.
I see them more as proper hobbyists though since they are doing a lot more than just grabbing a console off the shelf at Walmart.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
The Switch is not my first go to when I want to play something as I also have PC and PS4 but some of the takes in here and hostility where people feel their testosterone levels challenged by anyone actually enjoying the Switch is really dumb.
Do not like the system, that is fantastic for you. Stay stupid things about some of the games just to try and back up a shitty take with another shitty take really does not get people to agree.
 
D

Deleted member 738976

Unconfirmed Member
Rolling out a mini-switch along side PKMN this fall will really rocket them ahead as well. I’ve owned a Switch since launch and I’ve never really considered it a portable due to size and battery issues.


To be fair it will speed by the Xbox One even without a mini and I can only imagine how upset certain users here will be when that happens. Those 50-100 Xbox sales per week in Japan really hurts when trying to play catch up to the PS4 globally.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Top Bottom