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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 SUPER launch scheduled for January 17, 24 and 31 with RTX 4070 SUPER leading the way - VideoCardz Rumor
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Hudo
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Dunno. Maybe I look into the used GPU market when I buy a new PC. I mean, I don't lack the money to buy the fucking cards at the current price tags, it's just I don't think that consumer GPU cards should cost above $800.
Edit: It's also quite clear that the MSRPs set by Nvidia are the way they are because Nvidia are trying to normalize these price ranges because they'd otherwise would need to justify why the profit went down again to their investors after the abnormal Covid situation. Sad thing is that they most likely will be successful because people keep buying the 4090s. Be it for AI or gaming. The market is fucked. We're fucked.
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ChuckeRearmed
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I wonder if next we will have a line up of RTX 4xxx Maximum next 
KuraiShidosha
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*yawns in 4090 FE*
Nvidia releasing the RTX 4090 Ultra Ti Super FE OverclockI wonder if next we will have a line up of RTX 4xxx Maximum next
Obviously the smart play here. I may even wait a bit longer to pick up a used or discounted 5xxx depending on price and performance.
daninthemix
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When is the 5000 series due? Also I wonder what new tech Nvidia has cooking. If you look at the list of things they've invented over the years, they look solely responsible for all advancements in the graphics space - on both PC and console, as they set the bar which, a few years later, console makers try to achieve.
- VRR
- Ray tracing
- ML upscaling
- VRR
- Ray tracing
- ML upscaling
DeathGuise
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Odd that they won't make a 4090 Ti
asdasdasdbb
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Haha they aren't going to do that.
Yes and the 4070 Ti. Only the 4070 is staying and probably getting a price cut.
Schmendrick
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Since I doubt there will be a price correction, pass.
I´m not not paying, nor will I ever pay north of 1 grand for a xx80 GPU.
I´m not not paying, nor will I ever pay north of 1 grand for a xx80 GPU.
Ivory Samoan
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Solid effort! jeez, how it fit length wise, FE I take it?
I'm just stoked 4090 will stay top of the heap for another good bit....just bought one last week: got a good deal, $3,000 NZD for a Gigabyte Gaming OC (that's super cheap here in NZ lol).
Just a cheeky $7k dropped on a new build - I remember in 2000 I got a mean new build for $2,500 NZD, with a monitor, now days... $7,000 and no monitor for the top dogg far out.
deriks
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I guess that even the 5 series won't be a big deal in comparison
Spyxos
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What does MSRP and Non-MSRP mean? We get 2 defferent pricings? Like launch day 600 and after that 650? I need to replace my 3060ti as soon as possible, but the choices are just awful.
Bojji
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16GB is what realistically should be good for everything for next xx years. Right now 12GB is fine for almost everything besides Alan wake and cyberpunk with PT in 4k framebuffer.
ozz ex machina
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I want to as well. I'm holding on for dear life. The card would be incredible if the cunts at nvidia just wouldn't paywall new dlss features.
kiphalfton
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I was about to get a 4070 to upgrade my 2070 super. If I can get a 4070 super for the same price as a 4070 that would be champion
Big gap in price between 4070 and 4070 Ti. Probably not gonna happen. I bet it's going to start at $700 for AIB stuff.
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hinch7
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Basically the same performance as the current 4070Ti or ever so slightly lower. Which is around of par with a 7900XT. For what I'm guessing will be around $600/650. 12GB isn't great but so long as you're not pushing 4K PT its fine. Overpriced still but it'll be the best price to performance GPU you can get (for new cards).. that will have new feature sets and be capable of pathtracing at 1440P.
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Gen.Grievous
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Nvidia mandates the board partners to release a model at MSRP. Cards like the Asus Dual and MSI Ventus for example. Those board partners will of course have plenty of models (way) above MSRP as well like the Strix and Gaming X versions etc.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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That's enough for 1440/1080
amigastar
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Hey, i'm satisfied with my 4070 at 1080p momentarily. No complaining here. I just ask myself if 12GB will cut it in 1 1/5 or 2 years.
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Spyxos
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amigastar
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3 years seems about right, after that new console generation will come slowly so it's time to upgrade anyways in 2026/20272 or even 3 years will be fine, but after that.
buenoblue
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They did it with the 2070 super. Same price more or less than the 2070
hinch7
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Don't sweat it. 4070 is more than enough to last you until the next generation of consoles. Which are still at least 2-4 years out. Especially when playing at 1440P and under.
Current generation consoles can barely play with high fidelity settings and framerates. Never mind RT and upscaling/intropolation tech,
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Senua
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It's enough for most 4k stuff just not crazy PT enabled shit
LavitzSlambert
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We are supposed to be seeing hardware improve in performance AND drop in price (or at least stagnate). Somehow fools have been tricked into "it cost more for more performance" when that simply just isn't the case. PC gaming used to be better, but in recent years it has become a complete joke. Overpriced hardware, unoptimized games, and "gamer"/streamer culture that companies are more than willing to take advantage of.
My 1070 is plenty for the older games my PC runs, and newer indie titles. I'll continue to sit with it until something with bang for my buck is released, or until it gives up and I just get a Steam Deck 2 or something.
S0ULZB0URNE
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It's pushing it with newer titles.
alucard0712_rus
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This is most interesting GPU for me. 16GB, 256bit bus, 285w TDP. It's basically slightly underpowered 4080 but at lower power consumption. Just excellent overall GPU.
Come On Tars
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When we thinking the 5 series drops?
Gameplay Gods Bless
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You can't do 12GB on the 4060. It would have to be 16GB and it would have to be in clamshell configuration i.e expensive. But you can do 12GB in the 4050, the problem is there is no 4050 for desktops. It's laptop only.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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Normally it would be 2024 but rumors are pointing to early 2025 instead.
amigastar
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That's good to hear. I'm curious when we will get the Neural Nvidia Texture Compression.
HeisenbergFX4
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HeisenbergFX4
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//DEVIL//
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impressive for 4080s and 4070ti super.
both of these cards are really good with their mem bandwidth and 16gb as well.
price is impressive for both. mainly the 4080s. the 4080 was more powerful than the 7900xtx ( about the same in resta and way more powerful in ray tracing ). now this is even more powerful + better ray tracing for the same price as the 7900xtx msrp. not to mention it has dlss and dlss 3.5 that is by default better than anything FSR.
anyone who picks up 7900xtx vs 4080s must have something wrong in his head lol.
i question this graph but even if its true, based on the specs of the 4080s. its between 5 to 10% faster than 4080.
The 4080 problem was its price. not performance. but now that its about the same price + more feature sets, yeah it's a no-brainer. It's the better card to buy out of the 2.
the 7900xtx has to drop the price to 800$ to compete.
also the 5000 series coming next year in 2025. but who knows how much these will cost. not that it matters that much really because there is really no game that can push the 4080 / 4090 /7900xtx as its.
if a game needs DLSS/ FSR frame generation on these cards, it will still need frame generation on the 5000 unless the 5090 is 2x more powerful than 4090 ( which I highly doubt based on Nvidia trajectory towards AI more focus than gaming side.) and even AMD no longer focusing on high end GPUs as well.
the software is not there. Unreal Engine 5 is shit in terms of optimization. we are stuck with these kind of graphics give or take better resolution/frames till at least the PS6 Xbox next.
both of these cards are really good with their mem bandwidth and 16gb as well.
price is impressive for both. mainly the 4080s. the 4080 was more powerful than the 7900xtx ( about the same in resta and way more powerful in ray tracing ). now this is even more powerful + better ray tracing for the same price as the 7900xtx msrp. not to mention it has dlss and dlss 3.5 that is by default better than anything FSR.
anyone who picks up 7900xtx vs 4080s must have something wrong in his head lol.
7900XTX is 2% better than 4080 so if Super is 3% faster it will beat it (by 1% haha).
i question this graph but even if its true, based on the specs of the 4080s. its between 5 to 10% faster than 4080.
The 4080 problem was its price. not performance. but now that its about the same price + more feature sets, yeah it's a no-brainer. It's the better card to buy out of the 2.
the 7900xtx has to drop the price to 800$ to compete.
also the 5000 series coming next year in 2025. but who knows how much these will cost. not that it matters that much really because there is really no game that can push the 4080 / 4090 /7900xtx as its.
if a game needs DLSS/ FSR frame generation on these cards, it will still need frame generation on the 5000 unless the 5090 is 2x more powerful than 4090 ( which I highly doubt based on Nvidia trajectory towards AI more focus than gaming side.) and even AMD no longer focusing on high end GPUs as well.
the software is not there. Unreal Engine 5 is shit in terms of optimization. we are stuck with these kind of graphics give or take better resolution/frames till at least the PS6 Xbox next.
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