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[Krejlooc]

I really doubt he cares what the internet peanut gallery has to say, like Notch he'll just live out his days fucking around in a huge mansion and waving his dick around on social media.

He didn't even try to deny any of this.

I get that I follow these people closer than most due to my interest in VR, but Palmer Luckey has been cultivating an image of humbleness for a while. The time article that produced that meme-worthy image of Palmer Luckey actually had a section in it where they talked about how wealth was affecting Luckey and he was all gosh and gollies. He said, for example, that he wanted to remain a normal guy and the only money he had spent was for a Tessla car - his one luxury he allowed himself.

If he's telling reporters this stuff when they interview him, he clearly cares about his image. Going on with secret alt accounts to brag about how $100 is just one less shot of scotch on his private jet flies in the face of this image he's cultivating.

 

[Neiteio]

Btw, Gaffers in countries other than America, I hope you're concerned about Trump too, because America isn't the only country he will fuck up

I'm still aghast his campaign hasn't self-imploded yet

 

[Krejlooc]

Great timing. Reveal yourself to be classless, bragging about your booze and jets, when your boss just donated four times your wealth to heal mankind.

Speaking of timing, Valve's Dev Days 3 is in like 2 weeks, where they're going to demonstrate their latest VR prototypes. This really could be bad timing for Oculus.

 

[Cartman86]

I wonder how much of a mark this ends up leaving on Oculus? The mainstream audience either wont ever hear about this or they'll forget about this in a week. But the mainstream isn't buying VR right now. And indie developers are a fairly liberal bunch.
Palmer won't doing any more developer outreach for a while.

I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more very soon about his specific role within Oculus and how much he actually was in contact with development partners.

 

[Tagyhag]

I wonder how much of a mark this ends up leaving on Oculus? The mainstream audience either wont ever hear about this or they'll forget about this in a week. But the mainstream isn't buying VR right now. And indie developers are a fairly liberal bunch.
Palmer won't doing any more developer outreach for a while.

Yep, and I've thinking more about that and it'll be interesting.

Casual audiences aren't buying VR headsets yet. You're pretty much into the scene if you do, and you'll more than likely hear about this.

Edit: You might even get peer pressure from both sides! "You really going to give money to a Trump supporter?" or "Definitely buy an Oculus, it's not run by SJW's"

 

[Dreamwriter]

There's no need to "suggest" it. If someone's a Trump supporter, they're voting for a racist fear mongering shit rag.

That doesn't make that voter a scumbag. I know more than one non-scumbag (even smart people) voting for Trump, though I totally disagree (personally I was all for Bernie...)

I know one person voting for him because he isn't Hillary. A couple of the pro-Trump folks I know think his business sense will help the country's financial situation. One of them thinks he's been saying outrageous things only to get elected, and as part of his negotiating strategy where he demands the outrageous and then later (say, when dealing with Congress) tones it way down and in comparison the new demands seem much more reasonable (his book talks about this strategy). And I know a couple people who are voting for him because they only vote Republican. And yes, I know a couple people who have fallen for his every message and are anti-Muslim assholes.

Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag".

 

[Armaros]

I wonder how much of a mark this ends up leaving on Oculus. The mainstream audience either wont ever hear about this or they'll forget about this in a week. But the mainstream isn't buying VR right now. And indie developers are a fairly liberal bunch.
Palmer won't doing any more developer outreach for a while.

Yup, anyone currently paying attention to VR are still enthusiasts, so this news will find its way to them very quickly.

 

[Usobuko]

I get that I follow these people closer than most due to my interest in VR, but Palmer Luckey has been cultivating an image of humbleness for a while. The time article that produced that meme-worthy image of Palmer Luckey actually had a section in it where they talked about how wealth was affecting Luckey and he was all gosh and gollies. He said, for example, that he wanted to remain a normal guy and the only money he had spent was for a Tessla car - his one luxury he allowed himself.

If he's telling reporters this stuff when they interview him, he clearly cares about his image. Going on with secret alt accounts to brag about how $100 is just one less shot of scotch on his private jet flies in the face of this image he's cultivating.

I'm pleased to know this has blew up and that he will be forever remember as a disgusting human being.

Oh and on the wrong side of history with notch.

 

[Shaneus]

What? Notch would definitely take a similar stance, if any.

Oh, for some reason I thought he was (mostly) cool and not in with all this bullshit. I retract my statement!

 

[xxracerxx]

Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag".

They are just supporting a scumbag and his scumbag policies (or lack there of).

 

[Krejlooc]

That doesn't make that voter a scumbag. I know more than one non-scumbag (even smart people) voting for Trump, though I totally disagree (personally I was all for Bernie...)

I know one person voting for him because he isn't Hillary. A couple of the pro-Trump folks I know think his business sense will help the country's financial situation. One of them thinks he's been saying outrageous things only to get elected, and as part of his negotiating strategy where he demands the outrageous and then later (say, when dealing with Congress) tones it way down and in comparison the new demands seem much more reasonable (his book talks about this strategy). And I know a couple people who are voting for him because they only vote Republican. And yes, I know a couple people who have fallen for his every message and are anti-Muslim assholes.

Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag".

Even if you don't find Palmer Luckey a scumbag for supporting what is basically an 8chan meme factory, all you'd have to do is read his plutocratic bullshit in the OP to realize he's a scumbag of his own accord. Of course, that may not apply if you think he was "just pranking bro."

 

[JayEH]

Wait he admitted this himself? Wtf he is thinking?

 

[johnsmith]

That thread title change

Edit: Oops, didn't realize there were 2 threads on this. I like this thread title better.

 

[mjp2417]

I wonder how much of a mark this ends up leaving on Oculus? The mainstream audience either wont ever hear about this or they'll forget about this in a week. But the mainstream isn't buying VR right now. And indie developers are a fairly liberal bunch.
Palmer won't doing any more developer outreach for a while.

I would be very surprised if it had any significant effect. Long term effect is almost certainly limited to Palmer Luckey not being the public face of the device, but its success will still depend on the overall fate of VR and Oculus's position relative to Vive, PSVR, etc.

 

[Toparaman]

This is such a bizarre story. Palmer just straight-up told journalists he's involved in this? He can't be that stupid.

He seemed so passionate about VR and gaming on the Giant Bomb shows. I just don't understand why he'd want to pointlessly put his reputation on the line.

 

[ratcliffja]

If I were a Facebook decision-maker, I'd publicly oust Luckey ASAP and try to distance myself from him as much as possible. If they feel like they really need a public face of the company, I think Carmack would be a better shot unless there's some potential red flags with him as well.

 

[Krejlooc]

This is such a bizarre story. Palmer just straight-up told journalists he's involved in this? He can't be that stupid.

He seemed so passionate about VR and gaming on the Giant Bomb shows. I just don't understand why he'd want to pointlessly put his reputation on the line.

Just because someone is passionate doesn't mean they are good people.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

That doesn't make that voter a scumbag. I know more than one non-scumbag (even smart people) voting for Trump, though I totally disagree (personally I was all for Bernie...)

I know one person voting for him because he isn't Hillary. A couple of the pro-Trump folks I know think his business sense will help the country's financial situation. One of them thinks he's been saying outrageous things only to get elected, and as part of his negotiating strategy where he demands the outrageous and then later (say, when dealing with Congress) tones it way down and in comparison the new demands seem much more reasonable (his book talks about this strategy). And I know a couple people who are voting for him because they only vote Republican. And yes, I know a couple people who have fallen for his every message and are anti-Muslim assholes.

Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag".

You are wrong on this.

This isn't a "one candidate over the other" thing. You do not have to vote for Hillary in order to not vote for Trump. This is unlike just about any presidential race in U.S. history. Trump is a verifiable terrible human being who has said that he intends to harm millions of people in this country and claiming ignorance of that fact at this point is just nonsense. There is no path to supporting trump without supporting hate, bigotry, and immediate negative consequences for millions of fellow countrymen should he be elected. Anyone who supports and enables that is, indeed, also a scumbag.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

The guy has 700M+

He's "done" in what sense?

Remember Mel Gibson? You know, the Lethal Weapon guy? Where he at?

 

[Herodotus]

This is absolutely disgusting and ridiculous, how much of a child can you be to support that kind of practice? you ARE spreading hate you piece of crap!

Facebook should get the hell away from him.

By the way, friends from the US, we in Venezuela elected a guy pretty similar to Trump back in 1998, he was both a provocateur and a showman, he was an expert in using controversy to divert the attention from problems he didn't liked to be discussed. His name was Hugo Chavez, of course, his ideology was more akin to the extreme left (when it suited him) but you can see a lot of similarities between the two (Trump even said some good things about Chavez recently).Now look at us, we are now a country with a humanitarian crisis on our hands, with an inflation of more than 600% and with no hope of changing this government in the next few years, a dictatorship in all but name, all thanks to a charlatan.

While Trump won't be the literal ruin of the USA for the simple reason that you guys have a pretty powerful separation of power and the president can only do so much, it still won't be a positive thing for you, at least that's my opinion.

What i'm trying to say is... beware of the populists and beware of people who gives you simple solutions to complex problems, nothing is ever that easy.

 

[Tagyhag]

If I were a Facebook decision-maker, I'd publicly oust Luckey ASAP and try to distance myself from him as much as possible. If they feel like they really need a public face of the company, I think Carmack would be a better shot unless there's some potential red flags with him as well.

Carmack is a known sociopath but that also means that he doesn't hate anyone lol. He just loves technology.

 

[Machina]

Remember Mel Gibson? You know, the Lethal Weapon guy? Where he at?

8 children, a free man and filthy rich. That's where he's at.

 

[ScientificPizza]

That thread title change

it changed?

 

[Cow Mengde]

Skipping VR was the right choice. Even if I did buy VR, I won't be buying Occulus.

 

[Krejlooc]

If I were a Facebook decision-maker, I'd publicly oust Luckey ASAP and try to distance myself from him as much as possible. If they feel like they really need a public face of the company, I think Carmack would be a better shot unless there's some potential red flags with him as well.

Luckey has already dramatically toned down his online interactions. He used to post like dozens and dozens of times each day from his account baring his name across several message boards. Since the whole revive deal, when he was reduced to petty flame wars with local posters, he basically has remained radio silence. I expect we won't see Luckey as the face of Oculus much longer.

But yeah, they have a huge PR problem. This is their face right now:

EDIT: Carmack was called a sociopath in the police report when he broken into his highschool lol.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag"."

If you somehow think a racist, misogynistic, bigoted scam artist criminal is better than a not racist, misogynistic, bigoted scam artist, you're a scumbag.

 

[8-Bit Sunset]

For shame Palmer... for shame.

 

[balohna]

Will popular gaming news sites report on this?

Well, there is a NeoGAF thread so basically all of their sources are talking about it.

 

[johnsmith]

it changed?

No, I didn't realize there were 2 threads, and I thought this was the off topic one.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

The good kind in bikinis... lol.

Wow..

Right, guys?

*fist bump*

 

[Toxi]

But yeah, they have a huge PR problem. This is their face right now:

wat

 

[Neuromancer]

If Oculus/Facebook keeps him on despite this fuckery I will be very disappointed in them.

 

[Krejlooc]

wat

Palmer Luckey is a proud and outspoken brony.

 

[-COOLIO-]

That doesn't make that voter a scumbag. I know more than one non-scumbag (even smart people) voting for Trump, though I totally disagree (personally I was all for Bernie...)

I know one person voting for him because he isn't Hillary. A couple of the pro-Trump folks I know think his business sense will help the country's financial situation. One of them thinks he's been saying outrageous things only to get elected, and as part of his negotiating strategy where he demands the outrageous and then later (say, when dealing with Congress) tones it way down and in comparison the new demands seem much more reasonable (his book talks about this strategy). And I know a couple people who are voting for him because they only vote Republican. And yes, I know a couple people who have fallen for his every message and are anti-Muslim assholes.

Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag".

This is a good post. Some people are voting on a single issue. Some people are naive about the issues and voting on gut feeling. Some people are voting on charisma. And some feel that trump is just going with a shtick. I'm an ardent Hillary supporter but I'm not going to assume that people voting for trump are scumbags. Not everyone consumes from the same media outlets, or media outlets at all, and we all hear different spins on different issues from within our social media echo chambers. If there's one thing that makes me think Hillary will lose its the failure to try and convince trump supporters to vote Hillary by writing them off as inhuman scum.

 

[Big Nikus]

Btw, Gaffers in countries other than America, I hope you're concerned about Trump too, because America isn't the only country he will fuck up

I'm still aghast his campaign hasn't self-imploded yet

Of course we're concerned. Trump's shittyness is on the news almost everyday here in France.

 

[PersonAndStuff]

John Carmack just started moving his stuff into Palmer's office.

 

[Krejlooc]

This is a good post. Some people are voting on a single issue. Some people are naive about the issues and voting on gut feeling. Some people are voting on charisma. And some feel that trump is just going with a shtick. I'm an ardent Hillary supporter but I'm not going to assume that people voting for trump are scumbags. Not everyone consumes from the same media outlets, or media outlets at all, and we all hear different spins on different issues from within our social media echo chambers. If there's one thing that makes me think Hillary will lose its the failure to try and convince trump supporters to vote Hillary by writing them off as inhuman scum.

That you chose a single issue over the mountain of social issues enabling a man like Trump would bring makes you a scumbag in my book. That you are naive and voted from the gut doesn't absolve you from scorn.

No doubt, there are probably tons of awful reason Trump supporters can come up with. None of them sway me from the opinion that voting for Trump is a vote for all sorts of bad things.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Remember Mel Gibson? You know, the Lethal Weapon guy? Where he at?

8 children, a free man and filthy rich. That's where he's at.

This, and also dropping a movie in a few weeks.

 

[HariKari]

Is this why Valve didn't really seem concerned about people jumping ship for Oculus? This was bound to flare up at some point.

John Carmack just started moving his stuff into Palmer's office.

The guy already being sued? Doubtful.

 

[Krejlooc]

Is this why Valve didn't really seem concerned about people jumping ship for Oculus? This was bound to flare up at some point.

Valve wasn't concerned because hardly anybody jumped ship. They retained their team.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Even ignoring your thoughts on the candidates, the comments on that reddit under his alt account and his Twitter like history being publicly spread now is probably going to ensure he isn't trotted out to advertise the device anymore.

... Incidentally, didn't Martin Shkreli come out as a Milo fan/Trump supporter recently with a ton of right wing meme crap flooding his Twitter?

 

[GearDraxon]

Of course we're concerned. Trump's shittyness is on the news almost everyday here in France.

Do they discuss how his talking points are all illusions, to distract from reality?

A Trump-l'œil, if you will?

 

[Ozigizo]

Please, if you have any doubts about the article, can you take a single god damn minute and take a look at Palmers likes on twitter.

It speaks volumes. It also confirms his support of Trump.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

8 children, a free man and filthy rich. That's where he's at.

But he ain't what he was. Not even close.

 

[Obliterator]

"Just because someone supports one candidate or the other, that doesn't make them a "scumbag"."

If you somehow think a racist, misogynistic, bigoted scam artist criminal is better than a not racist, misogynistic, bigoted scam artist, you're a scumbag.

To be fair I think there is such a thing as institutionalized party support. I know some people that are probably gonna end up voting Trump that know nothing about him because their parents, and their parents before them were Republicans.

I don't want to excuse them not being educated on who they are voting for or understanding the country at large but I don't think that inherently makes them a scumbag. Just misinformed.

Cheers!

 

[Krejlooc]

Even ignoring your thoughts on the candidates, the comments on that reddit under his alt account and his Twitter like history being publicly spread now is probably going to ensure he isn't trotted out to advertise the device anymore.

... Incidentally, didn't Martin Shkreli come out as a Milo fan/Trump supporter recently with a ton of right wing meme crap flooding his Twitter?

That's what gets me about the defense he's getting in this topic. If you don't think he's shitty for supporting 8chan memes, if you don't think he's shitty for supporting Trump, then you should at least think he's shitty for the rhetoric he posted. That shit is straight up vile. The only attempt I've seen at a defense for it has been "that was a joke."

 

[Zabka]

wat

 

[Armaros]

Is this why Valve didn't really seem concerned about people jumping ship for Oculus? This was bound to flare up at some point.



The guy already being sued? Doubtful.

The only real loss was Abrash, they kept most of the team, hence all their advances since they split from Oculus and how they was able to make their own commercial headset relatively quickly

 

[gfxtwin]

Palmer Luckey is a proud and outspoken brony.

Sweet, yet another reason to feel weird/uncomfortable around bronies.

 

[SomeOneInaHat]

Remember Mel Gibson? You know, the Lethal Weapon guy? Where he at?

He's directing Hawksaw Ridge.