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[VictorVectors]

Cheers to the inevitable PS6 and next CEO. I'm out.

 

[saintjules]

He know. Just read all his defense force posts.

It's about looking at both sides of the coin. You just look at one side and say that's sufficient. There's no conclusive evidence it's all Hermen.

Just wake up a bit. I used to like your posts. Something strange happened over the last year with you.

 

[adamsapple]

Now, now. I take no happiness in all the wasted time and effort from two talented first party studios.

Spoiler

 

[Haint]

I thought for sure Bluepoint was working on a Demon Soul style remake of Bloodbourne the past 5 years, but seems it was a live service. There goes hundreds of millions of dollars and 5 years down the toilet. How do any of these executives still have jobs?

 

[Germuso]

I really hope all their gaas fail.

 

[BennyBlanco]

So Bluepoint’s rumored game was GaaS? Wow.

 

[Fake]

It's about looking at both sides of the coin. You just look at one side and say that's sufficient.

Just wake up a bit. I used to like your posts. Something strange happened over the last year with you.

What are you saying? I'm not a fanboy I used to be?

Thats your reply?

You are the one that need a more wake up slap than any other here in gaf. If a God of War live service will not wake up you, nothing ever will.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

HH is making the right call, but I'd have commended him for big balls had this cleanup started before Concord bombed.

Well sometimes you need a big failure to say, "see? I was right about overinvesting in this area". Remember a lot of these decisions go above even Jim's pay grade.

Anyways, even though this news is seen as a negative, I think it's a positive development. It means Sony's not going to waste time chasing GaaS with single player studios.

I've always said they should just re-structure all of GaaS around Bungie, that's what they bought them for, right? Have them work on incubation projects (small stuff) and then devote more resources if it has a future (like Helldivers 2). This stuff should be easy to weed out pretty early on, imho. And no use making SP studios waste any time on something that's not a core competence of theirs.

Sucks that Bluepoint just wasted 4 fucking years though, I thought they were working on a new SP IP? Was this GaaS title a 2nd project?

 

[LectureMaster]

Now, now. I take no happiness in all the wasted time and effort from two talented first party studios.

Spoiler

Seriously, your mindset on the platform wars is leagues better than some other fanboys out there on GAF. That's why I love you so much my man.

 

[adamsapple]

So Bluepoint’s rumored original IP was GaaS? Wow.

Would love to know what Bend was working on. Days Gone? Syphon Filter? Something new?

We just know about Bluepoint.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Now, now. I take no happiness in all the wasted time and effort from two talented first party studios.

Spoiler

You've had a lot of experience with this subject over the years...

 

[GHG]

Sony, wake up idiots.

But late for that. Whole generation down the pan from a first party perspective.

I'm owed an apology from the people who tried to tell me I was wrong when I said this live service push would have a detrimental impact on their output and development of single player games

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

And also, all of these people saying that PS is not making Showcases because they changed their strategy/they don't need to, are in full denial. The lack of showcases (game reveals) is because of how much the GaaS initiative fucked them up

 

[hussar16]

All this money wasted when it could have ben spent on order 1886 sequal or days gone 2

 

[bitbydeath]

Going to need an update on this from Sony.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So Bluepoint’s rumored game was GaaS? Wow.

It's Sony's way of interpreting originality.

If you take GOW and make it into a bow and arrow shooter game with weekly mtx ranging from a Robin Hood bow to a Hawkeye bow that is original.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

All this money wasted when it could have ben spent on order 1886 sequal or days gone 2

I'd love an 1886 sequel. Just give us a corridor shooter with insane graphics.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

No fucking way Bluepoint was wasting their time on a live service game??? What a tragedy....like wow!

No Bloodborne remake that everyone wants, lets instead make some live service trash

 

[Z O N E]

So we won't see an original IP from either of those 2 studios for AT LEAST 3 years?

Cool.

What a waste of time and money.

 

[rm082e]

So...now that Bluepoint is no longer wasting time on a pointless GaaS game...

 

[Fake]

I still trying to process all this GAAS bullshit. 4~6 years to figure out that a God of War Live Service was a bad ideia.

This can't be real. Dumb people are in high positions. No other way around.

 

[SakkanartSilentJealousy]

Damn Sony what a waste of there time. We have no new great SP games because of live service shit.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

But late for that. Whole generation down the pan from a first party perspective.

That's hyperbole though. These GaaS title failures definitely hurt their FP output, but the whole generation is not a flop just because Bend and Bluepoint wasted time on a GaaS, and a new studio for Concord flopped.

Most of their SP teams are still doing SP.

 

[yogaflame]

Sony is starting to heal. I hope that twisted DEI initiative is next to be remove from Sony. To be honest, despite of success of some titles and still good sale of ps5 and ps5 pro, Sony took allot of L's especially with concord and to much focus on gaas and remasters. Good thing Sony PS fans are very patient, loyal and still trusting the Sony brand.

 

[Kamina]

And nothing of value was lost

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Anyways, as for what's next for Bluepoint?

How about a sequel to the fucking' Order 1886? But do it justice like it deserved.

So much potential in that IP

 

[Kacho]

But late for that. Whole generation down the pan from a first party perspective.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious this gen will go down as a massive disappointment. Too many bad decisions and dev cycles are way too long. Something needs to change with the PS6, or whatever Sony does next. We need to scale back to get budgets and dev times under control. Xbox is toast so who gives a fuck about what they do.

 

[adamsapple]

Someone on Era compiled the list of their '12 Gaas' games and their current statuses.

1. Arrowhead Game Studios: Helldivers II (Released February 2024)
2. Bend Studio: Unnanounced GAAS (Canceled 2025)
3. Bluepoint Games: God of War GAAS (Canceled 2025)
4. Bungie: Marathon (2025?)
5. Bungie: Payback (Cancelled 2024)
6. Firesprite: Twisted Metal GAAS (Canceled 2024)
7. Firewalk: Concord (Released, and Canceled 2024)
8. Guerilla Games: Horizon Online Title (TBD)
9. Haven Studios: Fairgames$ (TBD)
10. Insomniac: Spider-Man: The Great Web (Canceled Date Unknown)
11. London Studio: AAA New IP Fantasy Multiplayer Title (Canceled 2024 - Studio shuttered)
12. Naughty Dog: The Last of Us Factions Online (Canceled 2023)

 

[ArtHands]

Damn Sony what a waste of there time. We have no new great SP games because of live service shit.

You have stellar blade and that ronin game, don’t worry bro

 

[yogaflame]

They put Bluepoint on a fucking live service game?? Idiots…

What a waste of time for talented Bluepoint.

 

[nial]

Anyways, as for what's next for Bluepoint?

Being a support studio like they've always been.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Sony is starting to heal. I hope that twisted DEI initiative is next to be remove from Sony. To be honest, despite of success of some titles and still good sale of ps5 and ps5 pro, Sony took allot of L's especially with concord and to much focus on gaas and remasters. Good thing Sony PS fans are very patient, loyal and still trusting the Sony brand.

The thing is, even when they fail, they have great success elsewhere. 2024 was a big year for their output, they won GOTY, so it's not like it's nothing but gloom. They still have an excellent core and cadence to all their efforts.

They just need to learn that chasing $$$$ that risks losing $$$$$$$$$ is not worth it. There's nothing to be ashamed about by making SP games with less revenue potential but also less risk. Let these studios thrive with what they do best and what your audience expects.

 

[MLSabre]

What a colossal waste of time, resource, and manpower. All simply just thrown away...

 

[rickybooby87]

Bluepoint, GaaS? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Jim Ryan literally lost the plot.

 

[Rockman33]

Is this the only thing bluepoint was working on?

 

[Kacho]

The thing is, even when they fail, they have great success elsewhere.

 

[AmuroChan]

Wasn’t Jim Ryan the main pusher of GaaS?

All that was in the oven long before Hermen was top dog

Now we know the real reason why Ryan left.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Someone on Era compiled the list of their '12 Gaas' games and their current statuses.

1. Arrowhead Game Studios: Helldivers II (Released February 2024)
2. Bend Studio: Unnanounced GAAS (Canceled 2025)
3. Bluepoint Games: God of War GAAS (Canceled 2025)
4. Bungie: Marathon (2025?)
5. Bungie: Payback (Cancelled 2024)
6. Firesprite: Twisted Metal GAAS (Canceled 2024)
7. Firewalk: Concord (Released, and Canceled 2024)
8. Guerilla Games: Horizon Online Title (TBD)
9. Haven Studios: Fairgames$ (TBD)
10. Insomniac: Spider-Man: The Great Web (Canceled Date Unknown)
11. London Studio: AAA New IP Fantasy Multiplayer Title (Canceled 2024 - Studio shuttered)
12. Naughty Dog: The Last of Us Factions Online (Canceled 2023)

1 released, 3 WIP, 8 cancelled.

That list doesnt even include that mobile studio Neon Koi they bought and shuttered with zero games released.

 

[nial]

Someone on Era compiled the list of their '12 Gaas' games and their current statuses.

1. Arrowhead Game Studios: Helldivers II (Released February 2024)
2. Bend Studio: Unnanounced GAAS (Canceled 2025)
3. Bluepoint Games: God of War GAAS (Canceled 2025)
4. Bungie: Marathon (2025?)
5. Bungie: Payback (Cancelled 2024)
6. Firesprite: Twisted Metal GAAS (Canceled 2024)
7. Firewalk: Concord (Released, and Canceled 2024)
8. Guerilla Games: Horizon Online Title (TBD)
9. Haven Studios: Fairgames$ (TBD)
10. Insomniac: Spider-Man: The Great Web (Canceled Date Unknown)
11. London Studio: AAA New IP Fantasy Multiplayer Title (Canceled 2024 - Studio shuttered)
12. Naughty Dog: The Last of Us Factions Online (Canceled 2023)

Bungie projects never counted on that. They weren't even part of Sony when they talked about those 12 GAAS projects.
Replace Marathon and Payback with MLB The Show and whatever Neon Koi was making.

 

[KyoZz]

At least it's now canceled. Let's hope they can focus on what they are good at: beautiful single player games with strong stories.

I'm always baffled by some of the decisions these people make, whether it's Microsoft or Sony. Bluepoint on a GaaS, WTF where they thinking.

 

[yogaflame]

What a colossal waste of time, resource, and manpower. All simply just thrown away...

Sigh, Sony could have been use those talents and funds to revive OG PS franchise like jak, sly, socom, resistance, killzone, days gone, warhawk, motorstorm, or more rpg's like legend of dragoon, legend of legaia, wild arms, alundra, etc.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

That's an image of someone who thinks their output has been poor yet hasn't had the opportunity to play any of it.

 

[ReBurn]

Whoever greenlit that GOW GAAS game deserves the sack.

They probably put his face on a cookie.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[March Climber]

By the way did anyone play this years ago?

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Great news for all!

 

[Generic]

Breaking here…

Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier.bsky.social)

BREAKING: PlayStation has canceled two more live-service games, from subsidiaries Bend and Bluepoint, Bloomberg has learned. Fans have long wondered what Bluepoint has been working on for the last couple of years. I can report it was a live-service God of War game...

bsky.app

Sony Cancels Two More PlayStation Projects

The company told subsidiaries Bend and Bluepoint it will work with them to determine their next steps and minimize job losses

www.bloomberg.com

Well damn, I liked the multiplayer mode in God of Dar Ascension.

Sony seems to gave up on multiplayer games.

 

[nial]

By the way did anyone play this years ago?

You beat me, I was actually going to ask about this. What the fuck was it even about?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

What's so funny?

Winning Game of the Year and Multiplayer Game of the Year in a single year. Apparently a total disaster according to....a certain group of people.

 

[Conflict NZ]

Please just make Days Gone 2 Bend and Sony, at least do one good thing.