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Pokemon TCG Pocket just dropped

It's the same with competitive Pokemon TGC... I have zero interest in any of it once the internet ruined card games by "just use this deck list!" and also, even worse, the "go to this website and pick out the deck you want, they'll mail you exactly those cards."

I played Magic back in the 90s when none of that existed, and it was a totally different experience. If someone brought a rare or powerful card to the table, you were huddled over to see it; it was amazing, and you knew they either got it by pulling it randomly or by trading with some other player.

And every deck build was totally different, since most people's strategy was downstream from the luck of whatever interesting cards they'd picked up over time.

For this reason, I'd much rather play the variation of Pokemon that I do with my son: we'll pick a couple colors of Pokemon randomly (he has a ton of cards organized by type in boxes), then we'll do a kind live "draft" round on the table where we flip over groups of them randomly and each player can take turns making their picks. We live build the deck like this, then shuffle up and split the supporter cards into decks for each person to pick through, then you build energy however you want. Building the deck is part of the battle.

I would love to see that kind of thing at a real tournament; it might actually be fun to watch for once. But the way things work now in trading card games, it's just boring as hell and everyone buys powerful cards they need online. I don't have any interest in the online mode of this game either, for the same reason. I enjoy the CPU battles and playing against my son, though. We've had a blast with about 10 matches the past 24 hours.

I'm not a huge MTG/TCG expert (like you, I used to play the game in the 90's when we were all just teens having casual fun), but I believe there's a growing community of TCG players that don't use the expensive meta decks, but prefer a level playing field. I think I've heard of game nights where ppl all buy boosters on the spot to make a deck.

I've also been noticing a similar trend amongst indie roguelites/-likes, autobattlers and deckbuilders; (thankfully) they're implementing anti-meta mechanics, like a having certain skills/cards randomly deactivate for everyone before a match starts.
 
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ResurrectedContrarian

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I've also been noticing a similar trend amongst indie roguelites/-likes, autobattlers and deckbuilders; (thankfully) they're implementing anti-meta mechanics, like a having certain skills/cards randomly deactivate for everyone before a match starts.
the second GBC Pokemon TGC game had various stadium-like effects (which might change the way cards are drawn, boost a certain color, prevent certain actions, etc) pinned to all the gym leaders you have to beat, which basically made the strategy change so that you had to strategize with a new deck build.

I'd love to see this mobile game do something like that for events... maybe each day, have a special category of online battles that have a specific stadium effect for just that day, so that you have to build a custom deck for it. Go wild with the effects and make sure that they eliminate most of the easy super-card decks.
 

Dacvak

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This may be a stupid question, but how do I actually play the card game in this?
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
This may be a stupid question, but how do I actually play the card game in this?
You have to be at least lvl 3. If you are eager to reach that point, open a few more card packs by using the clocks. You'll get tons of those later anyway.
 
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Dacvak

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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Really enjoying event battles. Happy to be getting more single player stuff, plus getting cards out of it is always cool.
 

Robb

Gold Member
I’ve actually been having quite fun making decks and battling in this.. Although I feel it’s a bit weird that XP doesn’t scale with performance. If you beat someone to the ground you should earn more.
 

Hookshot

Member
Not feeling this so far. I win the battles but they are slow. I use the Koga deck and just poison them and swap out so I don't lose a card.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I’ve actually been having quite fun making decks and battling in this
Same, it has hooked me way more than I expected. The battles are fun indeed, and some of the card's art is super nice as well.

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I want this too. The GBC games were a lot of fun, and I'd prefer a new entry of the GBC games on the Switch 2, with an optional online component, rather than this.

Pokemon Pocket isn't even the first mobile PTCG. First there was PTCG Online, which got shutdown last year for its successor PTCG Live. Now we have Pokemon Pocket which is replacing that. And they all fucking suck.

They just keep replacing the mobile games with new ones
, and they've all been rampant with people running nothing but meta decks, or people who timer stall, or people who drop on initial hand draws when they don't get what they want.
Pocket isn't replacing Live. Live is multiplatform like Online.
 

ResurrectedContrarian

Suffers with mild autism
Really enjoying event battles. Happy to be getting more single player stuff, plus getting cards out of it is always cool.
100% agree

I don't do the online battles at all, humans are annoying and I'm sure they'll just pack in the strongest possible cards instead of building different deck ideas

Playing the CPU challenges is excellent though, and I'm building all kinds of special strategy decks to win in different ways. So much fun to win but also do it in style with some planned combo. Right now my favorite is probably my dragons deck

Card-based games should replace the stagnant main Pokemon series if I had my choice... make a whole adventure like the GBC classics, scale it up, add story, but trade the boring battles for card battles and card collecting / deck building
 
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begotten

Member
I know it's meant to be quick and dumbed down like Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links, but bricking happens more often compared to OG TCG and I dislike the ramp RNG with a 20 card deck.

2 card limit across everything feels like the first thing that will be adjusted.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
100% agree

I don't do the online battles at all, humans are annoying and I'm sure they'll just pack in the strongest possible cards instead of building different deck ideas
Heh, it's not that bad! Lots of people go for the meta, but I've also seen many players just trying to do their own thing.

Playing the CPU challenges is excellent though, and I'm building all kinds of special strategy decks to win in different ways. So much fun to win but also do it in style with some planned combo. Right now my favorite is probably my dragons deck
Agree! Hope they add more in the future, although right now I can see that beating all those challenges is going to take me some time already.

Card-based games should replace the stagnant main Pokemon series if I had my choice... make a whole adventure like the GBC classics, scale it up, add story, but trade the boring battles for card battles and card collecting / deck building
That would be awesome. Pokemon battles become boring quickly, I much prefer the card format.
 
Still don't get the appeal of this series and especially not the go game. I tried the go game out of curiosity when it launched as their was a "gym" down the street from my house (apparently there is one in front of my current house now). It didn't click then, but i know many others that love it. I think i was too old when pokemon came out, i was 21, so the art style felt kiddie, especially compared to MTG and old school ADnD,

I have one questions for people that play this particular game.
1. Is it like playing the Pokémon version of magic arena? Where you have to buy card packs and "unwrap" them digitally?

Why not just play one of the, feels like 100s, of pokemon games out there instead of wasting it on digital nothingness that they can take from you by pulling the servers, or just buy the real cards?

I know for myself, i don't play mgt arena as I don't want to waste money on fake shit. I played the planeswalker games and late 90s mtg pc game because you got cards for the price of the game and made your deck from there. No nickel and dime card packs to open. One and done. Unfortunately they took all the planeswalker games off the stores when arena came out, and its stuck on ps3 or old versions of android/ios...
 
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ResurrectedContrarian

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Still don't get the appeal of this series and especially not the go game. I tried the go game out of curiosity when it launched as their was a "gym" down the street from my house (apparently there is one in front of my current house now). It didn't click then, but i know many others that love it.
the card game are radically different from Pokemon GO and other mainline entires -- they're actually strategic and fun

I have one questions for people that play this particular game.
1. Is it like playing the Pokémon version of magic arena? Where you have to buy card packs and "unwrap" them digitally?

Why not just play one of the, feels like 100s, of pokemon games out there instead of wasting it on digital nothingness that they can take from you by pulling the servers, or just buy the real cards?
Speaking for myself, we have an absolute ton of real Pokemon cards in the house, my son's collection.

But I'm not buying anything on this iOS game, I'm enjoying it completely for free, and it lets me have the joy of deck building and battling in a fast, streamlined format.

I know for myself, i don't play mgt arena as I don't want to waste money on fake shit. I played the planeswalker games and late 90s mtg pc game because you got cards for the price of the game and made your deck from there. No nickel and dime card packs to open. One and done. Unfortunately they took all the planeswalker games off the stores when arena came out, and its stuck on ps3 or old versions of android/ios...
I have the Planeswalker board game set and it's a lot of fun, although we've only played it a couple of times; it was a bit complex for a 10 year old, perhaps my son and I will pick it up again later.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Why not just play one of the, feels like 100s, of pokemon games out there instead of wasting it on digital nothingness that they can take from you by pulling the servers,
Because those games suck ass, made by one of the laziest developers out there. Plus the gameplay on mainline Pokemon games is just boring to me.

or just buy the real cards?
Nobody I know plays with those, plus the mobile game is free while the cards cost money.
 

sendit

Member
Perfect for the upcoming NFT integration. They're just easing people in ;)
 
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kevboard

Member
What is this game exactly? Is it the Pokemon trading card game we all played as kids in the 90s, but now digital?

it's a simplified version. YuGiOh did something similar a few years ago.

so there are no energy cards, you just get 1 energy each round. there are only 3 pokemon on your bench instead of 5. decks consist of 20 instead of 60 cards, and you only need 3 points to win (no price cards)
 

srerwws

Neo Member
I don't think the DS version is much of anything... I haven't played it but I recall that it's basically a tutorial and then a few AI opponents, but lacks the complexity of the GBC title where you had a whole story, collecting & deck building, highly varied opponents, etc.

The best is actually the sequel to the original GBC game. It was never released outside of Japan but there are easy to boot up on a flashcart or emulator.

That second game was amazing... expanded world, bigger adventure, and the battles were all themed around the different regions you visit, with effects / limitations on each battle that are sort of like fixed stadium cards, so that for example in one place you can only use basic pokemon , in another you get a bonus on certain energy types, etc. It forces you to build very different decks to win every region.
What other changes can we expect?
 
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I just started playing this from this week. I have never played a Pokemon card game before, but now I finally know what all the fuss is about! This game is pretty fun!

I don't know why they didn't make this as a digital game sooner!
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I know it’s been a decade or so, but did they change the core mechanics of the game? Where are all of the energy cards?
 

NanaMiku

Member
I know it’s been a decade or so, but did they change the core mechanics of the game? Where are all of the energy cards?
For this game, the energy is generated automatically every turn. 1 energy per turn. You can choose up to three types of energy. For the main TCG, they still use energy card
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I know it’s been a decade or so, but did they change the core mechanics of the game? Where are all of the energy cards?
They simplified the rules for this game, so it's easier to play while making matches end faster.

You can check out Pokemon TGC Live, I think that one has the full rules but also heard it's worse as a game.
 

ResurrectedContrarian

Suffers with mild autism
I do wish they'd let you pick the ratio of energy cards

It currently makes it harder to make a good asymmetrical deck, like 2/3 dark pokemon and 1/3 pyschic or something, because you still get 50/50 odds on the energy
 

NanaMiku

Member
I do wish they'd let you pick the ratio of energy cards

It currently makes it harder to make a good asymmetrical deck, like 2/3 dark pokemon and 1/3 pyschic or something, because you still get 50/50 odds on the energy
Yeah, I got fucked several days ago. My deck was lightning and water. The active Pokemon is Pikachu EX and I only get water for several turns.
 

Neolombax

Member
Not feeling it so far. Its still installed on my phone, open it daily to open the booster packs. Kinda wished the cards had more varied animations during battle. Some of the card designs are great though.
 
I just started playing this from this week. I have never played a Pokemon card game before, but now I finally know what all the fuss is about! This game is pretty fun!

I don't know why they didn't make this as a digital game sooner!
It seems Pokémon Trading Card Game Online started in 2011. Pokémon Trading Card Game Live replaced it last year. Pocket and Live are separate games. Live is the full game with real cards and full rules. Pocket has simplified rules and its own cards (based on some of the Pokémon ex I've seen in this thread).
 
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