I was just thinking about that. I have a couple standup friends and watching them destroy hecklers (who, of course, are generally a bit more inebriated than those guys) is a great time, and thankfully rare as well.
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I was just thinking about that. I have a couple standup friends and watching them destroy hecklers (who, of course, are generally a bit more inebriated than those guys) is a great time, and thankfully rare as well.
At some point Obama needs to get a few pointers from standup comedians on how to handle heckling. Not Kramer, obviously, but there has to be a dignified way to destroy these people's career (Joe Wilson, this guy, etc).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kth0UOU5a_M
cartoon_soldier
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I support Obama, but based on the ads I've heard about this sounds true.
That is because the media has only been focusing on the negative ads.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
At this rate, Obama's October surprise will be to decriminalize pot.
Oh please lord, if only to get people to shut up about it and maybe have opinions on other issues.
Invisible_Insane
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You make it sound as if pot is a trivial issue.Oh please lord, if only to get people to shut up about it and maybe have opinions on other issues.
PantherLotus
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There's no way Obama will legalize pot. Just going by his stance on gay marriage vs. opinion polls, we still need about 10-15% growth in pot legalization popularity before our beloved leader discovers that he's evolved on the issue.
RoninChaos
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I don't like Michael Steele at all, but he really kind of got rail roaded on that show.
I'm also curious how white voters will respond to this. There could be an opening here for Romney in terms of arguing Obama has a jobs plan for illegal immigrants but no plan for actual Americans (note: I know Obama has a jobs plan). Given the state of the economy, resentment politics could work here.
Any white voters upset about this weren't going to vote for Obama anyway.
Pretty shocking that the DREAM act passed the house and far all intents and purposes passed the Senate, but got blocked by the GOP.
Our system of government is fucked.
But the daily tracking does start to matter more at this point in time, historically speaking. Everyone knows thisDidn't you just say two days ago that it was only June? Because it still is...
I'm not fucking bipolar.Bipolar people say the damnedest things.
But the daily tracking does start to matter more at this point in time, historically speaking. Everyone knows this
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108376/gallup-daily-obama-mccain-tied-45.aspx
Yep, and after eight miserable years of Bush the momentum was on Obama's side. It's a little different this time.
You make it sound as if pot is a trivial issue.
It should be since the benefits of legalizing pot far outweigh the negatives. Its not like legalizing it will make it any more readily available to anyone considering that anyone who wants it, minor or adult, can go out and buy/find some quite easily.
cartoon_soldier
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You are forgetting when McCain led Obama by 11 points after the conventions.
Obama gettin' heckled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e24wuNLhcq8
I'm glad he told him to basically stfu but I wish he'd get more angry at these twats. This election could be do or die for this administration so I really hope if things get dire Obama just comes out swinging. It would be a welcome change of pace.
I'm glad he told him to basically stfu but I wish he'd get more angry at these twats. This election could be do or die for this administration so I really hope if things get dire Obama just comes out swinging. It would be a welcome change of pace.
PhoenixDark
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Obama calling the guy sir cracked me up. Yes, this is the radical anti-values villain the far right is concerned about.
Obama calling the guy sir cracked me up. Yes, this is the radical anti-values villain the far right is concerned about.
Im more concerned about the values of that conservative blogger/reporter. Very classless and disrespectful. If you dont like or agree with the president, you should at least treat the position of President (when interacting with him face to face) with respect.
Like that hasn't happened alreadyHe can't, an angry black man would scare people.
Romney's going to have Palin on the ticket? He's going to suspend his campaign over something to sit on the sidelines in meetings about it?You are forgetting when McCain led Obama by 11 points after the conventions.
cartoon_soldier
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Romney's going to have Palin on the ticket? He's going to suspend his campaign over something to sit on the sidelines in meetings about it?
We are talking about the importance of gallup daily tracking poll. And McCain led by 11 points after he picked Palin in one of their daily tracking polls.
I for one do not believe that Obama has this in the bag. The deck is stacked against him.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
We are talking about the importance of gallup daily tracking poll. And McCain led by 11 points after he picked Palin in one of their daily tracking polls.
I for one do not believe that Obama has this in the bag. The deck is stacked against him.
It was stacked for him in 2008. It will be interesting to see this election play itself out. There will definitely be some meltdowns on either side, I presume.
silentspork
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Im more concerned about the values of that conservative blogger/reporter. Very classless and disrespectful. If you dont like or agree with the president, you should at least treat the position of President (when interacting with him face to face) with respect.
I remember when Bush was in president that democrats would get criticized for not treating the position of president with respect even if they didn't agree with him (not necessarily on this board). It's unfortunate that it doesn't apply when the tables are turned.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I remember when Bush was in president that democrats would get criticized for not treating the position of president with respect even if they didn't agree with him (not necessarily on this board). It's unfortunate that it doesn't apply when the tables are turned.
That the two groups are comprised of the same people is what is most upsetting, oftentimes.
I remember when Bush was in president that democrats would get criticized for not treating the position of president with respect even if they didn't agree with him (not necessarily on this board). It's unfortunate that it doesn't apply when the tables are turned.
I have no problems with people calling the president any sort of name or disrespectful comment since free speech and all that, but I do have a problem with it if you are rude and disrespectful in face to face meeting/conversation with the President
PantherLotus
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I don't like Michael Steele at all, but he really kind of got rail roaded on that show.
Funny: I like Michael Steele a lot and think he had a number of chances to differentiate the two positions. He was unable to because there are none, which was Matthews' point.
PantherLotus
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oh holy shit, LOLO:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-a-sketches-on-immigration.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Romney comes out for the DREAM act just weeks after calling it a handout and thinking "self-deportation" would be the best solution.
Republicans: you all do realize you've done this to yourselves, right?
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-a-sketches-on-immigration.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Romney comes out for the DREAM act just weeks after calling it a handout and thinking "self-deportation" would be the best solution.
Republicans: you all do realize you've done this to yourselves, right?
oh holy shit, LOLO:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-a-sketches-on-immigration.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Romney comes out for the DREAM act just weeks after calling it a handout and thinking "self-deportation" would be the best solution.
Republicans: you all do realize you've done this to yourselves, right?
I dont want to see this happen, but I am rather curious as to what policies Romney would actually implement if he became president, because right now its obvious that he will say absolutely anything to become President
Particle Physicist
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I support Obama, but based on the ads I've heard about this sounds true.
It's not true though. There was a graph somewhere here a little while ago. Romney's side was insanely negative.
Officerrob
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oh holy shit, LOLO:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-a-sketches-on-immigration.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Romney comes out for the DREAM act just weeks after calling it a handout and thinking "self-deportation" would be the best solution.
Republicans: you all do realize you've done this to yourselves, right?
Romney really has no spine what-so-ever.
Romney really has no spine what-so-ever.
But he'd totally stand up to the GOP establishment if president, and govern as a moderate.
cartoon_soldier
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Romney says anything to please the people of the moment, media doesn't care.
Why does Obama get scrutinised for everything he says and does by the media, while Romney can act like a complete scumbag, and get away with it?
I mean, If Obama says something that isn't 100% true, people start to flip. But mittens lies about everything, every day, and nobody in the mainstream media seems to give a shit...
One more thing, about this heckling business:
I guarantee you, if that reporter was black/Hispanic/south Asian, and the president was white, then that reporter would be living on the street right now, after being crucified.
/rant
I mean, If Obama says something that isn't 100% true, people start to flip. But mittens lies about everything, every day, and nobody in the mainstream media seems to give a shit...
One more thing, about this heckling business:
I guarantee you, if that reporter was black/Hispanic/south Asian, and the president was white, then that reporter would be living on the street right now, after being crucified.
/rant
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Why does Obama get scrutinised for everything he says and does by the media, while Romney can act like a complete scumbag, and get away with it?
I mean, If Obama says something that isn't 100% true, people start to flip. But mittens lies about everything, every day, and nobody in the mainstream media seems to give a shit...
One more thing, about this heckling business:
I guarantee you, if that reporter was black/Hispanic/south Asian, and the president was white, then that reporter would be living on the street right now, after being crucified.
/rant
what a strange rant.
Define mainstream media to me.
The reason why this reporter will not be fired/so-called living on the street is because they come from a conservative nutjob site. If they were repping a legitimate news-source, the reporter invariably would be collecting unemployment next week.
eBay Huckster
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Just a reminder that John Bolton is Romney's chief foreign policy adviser and probable frontrunner for Secretary of State if he's elected.
(So the foreign policy choice in this election is apparently between "flying death robots and kill lists" or "space nukes and invade the shit out of Iran".)
(So the foreign policy choice in this election is apparently between "flying death robots and kill lists" or "space nukes and invade the shit out of Iran".)
what a strange rant.
Define mainstream media to me.
The reason why this reporter will not be fired/so-called living on the street is because they come from a conservative nutjob site. If they were repping a legitimate news-source, the reporter invariably would be collecting unemployment next week.
I jus feel as if the majority of news programmes (the american news channels i can get over here in the UK anyway)are trying to hype up this election as more than it is: one person who's bribed, versus another one who's bribed by nutjobs...
I wonder how people from such a site get in...
I suppose I should start my own news channel.
if the whole bribing comment offends you, don't worry about it. You guys will see it become a heck of a lot more transparent soon
Just a reminder that John Bolton is Romney's chief foreign policy adviser and probable frontrunner for Secretary of State if he's elected.
Had a read of that...
Seems like the usual bullshit to me. Just replace 201x with 198x, and Syria with Iran, and it's pretty similar...
eBay Huckster
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Had a read of that...
Seems like the usual bullshit to me. Just replace 201x with 198x, and Syria with Iran, and it's pretty similar...
Damn near identical, actually... about the same amount of saber-rattling against Russia and China as you would've seen in the Reagan administration.
Although if it's 1985 all over again, does that mean there's another Back to the Future film incoming?
Damn near identical, actually... about the same amount of saber-rattling against Russia and China as you would've seen in the Reagan administration.
Although if it's 1985 all over again, does that mean there's another Back to the Future film incoming?
No wonder they copied Reagan, I mean, dont the conservatives love him?
It's not even the real DREAM act, it's Rubio's fake one, let's call it REVERIE act from now on.oh holy shit, LOLO:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-a-sketches-on-immigration.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Romney comes out for the DREAM act just weeks after calling it a handout and thinking "self-deportation" would be the best solution.
Republicans: you all do realize you've done this to yourselves, right?
So to recap, Romney reinforce his negative as a flip flopper and all he got in return is a policy that the vast majority of Latinos don't like.
TacticalFox88
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oh holy shit, LOLO:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-a-sketches-on-immigration.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Romney comes out for the DREAM act just weeks after calling it a handout and thinking "self-deportation" would be the best solution.
Republicans: you all do realize you've done this to yourselves, right?
Romney represents literally EVERYTHING that's wrong with politicians. Lying scumbags who will say anything to get elected.
You mean, Romney is your average politician.Romney represents literally EVERYTHING that's wrong with politicians. Lying scumbags who will say anything to get elected.
Dr. Pangloss
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Like I said earlier, Romney is not a leader. He is just a stand in fulfilling a role. Let's not kid ourselves. He will pass whatever pops into Paul Ryan's head. Ryan will be the real power behind the throne, and Romney will never cross him.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I jus feel as if the majority of news programmes (the american news channels i can get over here in the UK anyway)are trying to hype up this election as more than it is: one person who's bribed, versus another one who's bribed by nutjobs...
I wonder how people from such a site get in...
I suppose I should start my own news channel.
if the whole bribing comment offends you, don't worry about it. You guys will see it become a heck of a lot more transparent soon
Well, you see, British outlets don't have the time nor reason to cover every single lie that Romney makes, nor misstep in their campaign. On top of that, MSNBC and CNN devote a lot of their time, as well as CBS, NBC, and ABC news to delineate where Romney is not telling the truth or where he is stretching it. They dont have time to do either explicitly though. The only cheerleaders for Romney in the mainstream media are Fox News and Talk Radio, and even then, I have been shocked by little they care for the guy. They are much more interested in talking down Obama's strengths, pouncing on his weaknesses, and lying/obfuscating his accomplishments than talking about Romney's strengths, his campaign, and so on. For a person to say that they are Romney cheerleaders would show that they obviously do not consume the media they are talking about. Glenn Beck can't talk enough about how milquetoast the guy is, Rush goes on about everyone else, Mark Levin can't stand the guy, etc, etc,etc. This goes on today, even though he is their nominee and he should therefore be a saint by all means, as in years past with every other nominee.
The media has made this election clear: it's not about Romney; it's about Obama and the economy. The GOP nominated the guy nobody wanted but everybody knew would win and now they are focusing the entirety of the election on defeating the opponent, not propping up "their" guy. The problem for Obama is, people who should be repping him are not gung-ho like they were in 2008. Those two factors alone are stacking the deck against Obama this election, but not necessarily for Romney, if that makes sense.
worldrunover
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I'd like to see Romney's reaction to this move if Santorum and Gingrich were still in the race. Somehow I think it would be different.
BotoxAgent
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You mean, Romney is your average politician.
eh
even the nuttiest of Republicans and Democrats tend to be a lil' more ideologically consistent with their politics and beliefs. Mitt shamelessly just doesn't give a shit, except being President.
Has anyone else noticed how sites that deal with pop-culture and media countdown lists seem to veer more to the conservative side in regards to politics?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/politics
I was looking at buzzfeed's politics page and many of the writers there are conservative, and many of the comments on the articles there are from conservatives.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/politics
I was looking at buzzfeed's politics page and many of the writers there are conservative, and many of the comments on the articles there are from conservatives.
Romney says anything to please the people of the moment, media doesn't care.
Media does not need to care, soon people are going to be so confused by Romney that it won't matter.
I can't wait till the debates, millions of people watch those and make up their minds. Its where Obama put away McCain for good and where I think he will end Romney. You cannot be for and against everything and stumble on National TV which is what will happen at the debates
theviolenthero
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Has anyone else noticed how sites that deal with pop-culture and media countdown lists seem to veer more to the conservative side in regards to politics?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/politics
I was looking at buzzfeed's politics page and many of the writers there are conservative, and many of the comments on the articles there are from conservatives.
Glenn Beck just signed a 5 year $100 million dollar contract.
Catering to conservatives is where the money is at & that's all they care about, money.
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