Al-ibn Kermit
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He only lost that state by like 30 votes too.
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He only lost that state by like 30 votes too.
Weekly address, railing against congress again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQyllaM6dro&feature=player_embedded
Decision 2012 : Obama v Congress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQyllaM6dro&feature=player_embedded
Decision 2012 : Obama v Congress
Flying_Phoenix
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PhoenixDark
Banned
Tomorrow will most likely be the beginning of the end for Obama's presidency.
eBay Huckster
Member
I hope this election turns out like the last time a President campaigned so hard against Congress so we can get President Cyborg Eisenhower in 2016.
And it wouldn't even just be conservative meltdowns this time, if PD's any indication
The worst part about Conrad's argument is that he believes that the Googles, Microsofts, Instagrams and Facebooks of the world started out by undertaking a huge risk... They didn't. They were a bunch of kids in a basement making a product because they were having fun.
Their capital investment/risk was practically zero to begin with. It's a farce of an argument that holds no weight -- at least with the examples he uses.
jamesinclair
Banned
Had my mind blown today.
Was in the car, listening to the radio, La Kalle.
In between your typical music (I dont know, Shakira and Pitbull, whatever) there was what sounded like 1 minute long Obama campaign ad.
It was excerpts of Obamas speech (in english).
And I shit you not, but in the background, was some kind of music with an "aaaamericaaaa" chant gong on, sounded almost gospel like.
And Im thinking "wtf, Obama really is pushing this immigration thing as a political ad ASAP"
But then at the end, the announcer did not say anything like it was paid for by a political ad....
Instead it was (in spanish) something like "La Kalle supports your dreams"
So Univision Radio is essentially running 1 minute long ad for Obama to inform listeners about what he did (we all know 90% of this country has no idea what goes on in politics).
Mind blown.
Was in the car, listening to the radio, La Kalle.
In between your typical music (I dont know, Shakira and Pitbull, whatever) there was what sounded like 1 minute long Obama campaign ad.
It was excerpts of Obamas speech (in english).
And I shit you not, but in the background, was some kind of music with an "aaaamericaaaa" chant gong on, sounded almost gospel like.
And Im thinking "wtf, Obama really is pushing this immigration thing as a political ad ASAP"
But then at the end, the announcer did not say anything like it was paid for by a political ad....
Instead it was (in spanish) something like "La Kalle supports your dreams"
So Univision Radio is essentially running 1 minute long ad for Obama to inform listeners about what he did (we all know 90% of this country has no idea what goes on in politics).
Mind blown.
Al-ibn Kermit
Junior Member
Why would univision care about the presidency? Are they privately owned?
jamesinclair
Banned
private, yes
Um, why?
This month has been probably his worst thus far but what makes tomorrow oh so dismal?
Rocket Scientist
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Fascinating stuff.
Surprised no one posted this:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/16/romney-leaves-note-for-reporters/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/16/romney-leaves-note-for-reporters/
ERASED UR HARD DRIVES LOL
This is his way of being "like-able" but it comes off as dickish.
Rocket Scientist
Member
I'm assuming he didn't actually have their hard drives erased, right?
el retorno
Member
McCain had some pretty bad luck with the economy tanking. (I know he wasn't a president)
Univision is the #1 network for Hispanics, they know they can influence the election and so they are using that power.
If they can motivate Hispanic voters to actually vote Romney is easily done as the SW which is already turning blue becomes blue and makes places like Florida harder for Romney to win.
The GOP is still very much playing by the rule book of old, you change the electoral college makeup of wins and you change the game
What in the world...?
teruterubozu
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IT'S OVER!!!!
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
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It's just a stupid joke. Bush jr. did similar things to the press and made tons of worse "jokes" and it didn't change a thing.
TacticalFox88
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Guileless
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I don't think anyone disputes that illegal immigration has contributed to stagnating blue collar wages and therefore increasing inequality that 95% of the people reading this thread think is the country's most glaring problem (which is why the Wall St. Journal editorial page has always supported open borders.) You are also trying to have it both ways if you think you can bring in millions of low skilled workers and not have it impact the lower middle classes.
Pres. Obama did not attempt comprehensive immigration reform early in his term when the Democrats controlled both houses of congress. If it were a simple good democrats vs. Evil republican issue, he would have.
balladofwindfishes
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Filibuster. It wouldn't have matter, it would have been blocked.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
He was kinda busy with something, and you cannot say that Obama and the Democrats have ignored immigration reform until now because that is just false.
Guileless
Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
I didn't say the issue was ignored, just that Pres. Obama did not attempt a comprehensive bill while his party controlled both houses of congress. If the only opposition to a politically advatageous move was motivated by Republican racism, that seems unlikely. More likely is that the issue is not as simple as that, and the elements of the Democratic party opposed to free trade agreements (e.g. unions) are also opposed to comprehensive immigration reform for reasons other than racism.
Edit: also worth noting is that Pres. Bush (while his party controlled both houses) wanted immigration reform, which was endorsed by plutocrats and the Wall St. Journal, but it never went anywhere.
Edit: also worth noting is that Pres. Bush (while his party controlled both houses) wanted immigration reform, which was endorsed by plutocrats and the Wall St. Journal, but it never went anywhere.
I nearly broke my TV watching this.
Finance guys are trying to take credit for high-tech stratups now?
Oh hell no.
They already blew up the industry once (I had front row seats) and they're about to do it again.
Also dickwad, instagram did not generate 1 billion dollars worth of wealth for this country, aren't you suppose to understand that, what with you being super businessman and all?
I can usually handle such bullshit, but that crap hit a little bit too close to home.
There's a ton of guys posting who are going to be proven wrong in November but they won't have the fortitude to admit it, so what possible pleasure could you get out of this?
My pleasure lies in PDs eloquent and sometimes too subtle transitioning between stances.
PhoenixDark
Banned
After a summer of sub 90k jobs a month, the end of Obamacare, and Greece leaving the Eurozone thus throwing the world back into recession? Romney should have a 3 point lead after the summer which expands after the conventions. Seriously, how does Obama win with so much out of his or anyone's control?
He wins because he is running about Romney, who manages to piss off even those who try to support him.
cartoon_soldier
Member
All that matters is the economy.
How does Romney win when he can't even control things within his control?
PhoenixDark
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You guys act like this election will throw out decades worth of historicl precedence. The current president is stuck with a bad economy he can't fix; things are getting worse on a monthly basis. Romney is not a good candidate, but he's no Palin/McCain either: voters believe he is qualified and has credibility on the economy. If this was Santorum or Perry it would be hard to count Obama out. But this guy is competent, or at least voters believe he is
This month will likely be a disaster. Most governments in our history would have likely tried to do something about the economy, but this congress wants to watch the white house burn.
You act like predicting defeat is somehow a "hedge" against heartbreak in November.
This is silly, but I'm pretty sure you need to figure it out for yourself.
teruterubozu
Member
I think PD's been pretty consistent with his gloom & doom going way back to the Hillary loss.
Where have all you been?
Where have all you been?
maximum360
Member
I dunno but I'm not sure what's more terrifying: The reality of a Mitt Romney Presidency or PhoenixDark getting all of his predictions right
Having both those things together would cause an implosion of reality on a massive scale. Think putting condensed anti-reality in a bottle and just shaking it just to see what happens....
.....Phoenix then Dark.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Profiles in courage:
The article makes it sound like Romney was pressed to answer, but we'll have to see the video - Scheiffer rarely presses anyone
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-refuses-to-say-if-hell-reverse-obamas
The article makes it sound like Romney was pressed to answer, but we'll have to see the video - Scheiffer rarely presses anyone
Rocket Scientist
Member
Wow this whole narrative about how immigration has not been on the table before the election is fucking annoying. How is the press not taking a dump on Romney and republicans over 2010...
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
It's really not stockholm syndrome, it's that "the press" (as if it or anything so huge and diverse could be a cohesive entity) has fallen for the trap of attempting to legitimize/sterilize itself from continued attacks of being liberally biased.
In so doing, they perpetuate and legitimize GOP talking points which would have no ground otherwise (e.g., Obama Apologizing to the world, Unprecedented Government Expansion/Spending, etc.).
What they should do is get together and fulfill that destiny for which the GOP has prescribed: fucking destroy every untruth the right puts out there and refuse to acknowledge the idea that there has to be "two sides" to every story.
But that won't happen. Maybe Democrats will get together and accuse the "media" for having a right-wing bias, for refusing to do their jobs, for yellow journalism (which wouldn't be untrue, completely), and for being bought and sold right along with every fucking thing else in our country.
teruterubozu
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The fact is news ratings are pure shit, but Fox gets the major share. So it's a doomed programming format. And even worse, nobody cares.
But you're right. That's why I listen to Rush and Beck everyday, that way I know EXACTLY what the media (and Baggins & Kosmo) will talking about for the rest of the day. It's uncanny, really.
But you're right. That's why I listen to Rush and Beck everyday, that way I know EXACTLY what the media (and Baggins & Kosmo) will talking about for the rest of the day. It's uncanny, really.
Guileless
Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Naomi Wolf wrote a book in 07 or so (that was taken seriously) arguing the Bush Administration was instituting a fascist dictatorship. And this is from Politico about the Wilson heckling:
In 2004, Democrats delivered a Chorus Of Boos during Bush's Bushs State Of The Union when he called for renewal of the Patriot Act., according to the Washington Times.
In 2005, Dems howled, hissed and shouted "No!" when Bush pushed for Social Security reform in the SOU: "Foreshadowing the contentiousness of the coming debate, Democrats broke decorum and booed twice," according to the National Journal.
At the time, CNN's Bill Schneider remarked, It was unusual. I had never heard it at least at that level before. The Democrats clearly were booing, heckling, saying no when the president talked about the crisis in Social Security."
I agree it's demeaning, but it's a result of our political culture, not the malevolence on one side of the aisle.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Yes, it has happened on both sides. It is also increased after Obama took office, being called a LIAR during a SOTU speech.
---Begin Rant---
Republicans helped by their media friends have embarked on a sustained campaign to demonize and undermine Obama and make it seem like he is a sleazeball who doesn't believe in America. And when the Media is interested in fairness and not facts, it seeps through to even the mainstream.
It is bad enough that even sitting congressman or candidates for congress openly question Obama's birth place. That Romney's AZ campaign co-chair threatens to take Obama off the ballot because he believes the BC released is a fake and nobody bats an eye-lid.
When people said 9/11 was an inside job, they were hounded out of place, rightly so. When people say Obama will kill Grandma, we have a discussion about whether he will actually kill Grandma or not. If Romney says Obama has the biggest tax increase ever, we have a discussion about whether Obama has made the biggest tax increase or not. Romney criticizes Obama for laying out the consequences of an attack on Iran, we discuss whether Obama should really tell America what would that be. Obama uses drone strikes liberally, we discuss whether drone strikes are help the US or not. Sure, now and then some fact checking is done, maybe that fact-check gets 5 minute of air time.
You can easily find the falsehoods Romney is spreading in his speeches. They rank 3-4 times as bad as Obama's worst claims. Has anybody heard the media anywhere question them?
---End Rant---
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