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Preacher |OT| The Beginning Is Nigh - Sundays 10/9c on AMC
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Nathan_Drake
Member
I am so conflicted about this series. I am still watching it so it must be doing something right or maybe it is like watching a car wreck. I don't think it is only because I was a big fan of the comic either. My girlfriend hasn't read it and has some of the same complaints.
That montage was so frustrating to me. I feel like this show is slow enough without wasting show time. I don't like the new story for the SoK and it makes me fear for his future activity and scenes.
Emily killing the Mayor was weird. My guess is that once Tulip said Jesse was her's she decided to remove any "obstacles." I think after seeing how the Mayor is against Jesse and learning vampires exist she just lost her shit. Who knows?
You all blew my mind a bit with your Genesis theory
The Breaking Bad scene was awesome. The leave your comics behind was snarky fun and a get over comment to people like me.
At this point, I don't know what is going on. So I guess that is at least intriguing even if disappointing.
That montage was so frustrating to me. I feel like this show is slow enough without wasting show time. I don't like the new story for the SoK and it makes me fear for his future activity and scenes.
Emily killing the Mayor was weird. My guess is that once Tulip said Jesse was her's she decided to remove any "obstacles." I think after seeing how the Mayor is against Jesse and learning vampires exist she just lost her shit. Who knows?
You all blew my mind a bit with your Genesis theory
Fiore and DeBlanc being parents. Then all the examples of only one of them seemingly being from heaven. Good catch!
The Breaking Bad scene was awesome. The leave your comics behind was snarky fun and a get over comment to people like me.
At this point, I don't know what is going on. So I guess that is at least intriguing even if disappointing.
Mac the KNife
Member
Let's just say the Mayor's charging more than $8 and two popsicles from the freezer to babysit Emily's kids.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Fucking hell, Joe Gilgun is hilarious!
Yeah, they do give good answers for the changes. Still not sure why JC is such a dick though.
SimonChris
Neo Member
Small detail I just noticed while rewatching the Cowboy scenes: In the original episode 5 Ratwater scenes, when the preacher is holding the gun to the horse's head, the Cowboy says "Don't". In the hell montage, he says "No". It's not exactly the same footage. I didn't notice any other changes, but I'll have to watch those scenes again.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Ratings:
Episode 1: 2.4 million viewers and 0.9 A18-49
Episode 2: 2.1 million viewers and 0.8 A18-49
Episode 3: 1.8 million viewers and 0.7 A18-49
Episode 4: 1.1 million viewers and 0.4 A18-49
Episode 5: 1.4 million viewers and 0.5 A18-49
Episode 6: 1.5 million viewers and 0.5 A18-49
Episode 7: 1.5 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49
Episode 8: 1.6 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49
Episode 9: 1.6 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49
Episode 1: 2.4 million viewers and 0.9 A18-49
Episode 2: 2.1 million viewers and 0.8 A18-49
Episode 3: 1.8 million viewers and 0.7 A18-49
Episode 4: 1.1 million viewers and 0.4 A18-49
Episode 5: 1.4 million viewers and 0.5 A18-49
Episode 6: 1.5 million viewers and 0.5 A18-49
Episode 7: 1.5 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49
Episode 8: 1.6 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49
Episode 9: 1.6 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49
Freewheelin'
Member
Glad to see its holding its audience.
Elysium-777
Member
I noticed that too. I was wondering if he can control his actions during the sequence, and if so, is he punished somehow for going off script?
RoyaleDuke
Banned
I'm in for the finale but after that I'm done unless season 2 ends up being better.
Nah the thing with Matt was that he was also from the same area as John Constantine, also it is sad that the Constantine show is 100% more faithful than this show and that is a fucking crime.
It was also a crime that Constantine got cancelled because they were building up to some of the best storylines from the comic book. Mind you John has like 30+ years(in universe) of stories to pull from.
Nah the thing with Matt was that he was also from the same area as John Constantine, also it is sad that the Constantine show is 100% more faithful than this show and that is a fucking crime.
It was also a crime that Constantine got cancelled because they were building up to some of the best storylines from the comic book. Mind you John has like 30+ years(in universe) of stories to pull from.
Freewheelin'
Member
Hearing Ennis talk about how it needed changes is nice.
I mean, Watchmen was slavishly faithful to its source material and suffered massively. Lord of the Rings deviated, cut out all its songs and shit and extended battles and benefitted.
Being a direct adaptation is not the be all and end all.
I mean, Watchmen was slavishly faithful to its source material and suffered massively. Lord of the Rings deviated, cut out all its songs and shit and extended battles and benefitted.
Being a direct adaptation is not the be all and end all.
I have to go against the grain here and say I liked this recent one quite a bit though I do agree that the montage at the end was completely pointless and I feel like they did us a disservice since we only get 10 episodes a year and they spent a good chunk of the episode showing us things we've already seen.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
That's not a bad shout, actually. Don't know if he could do the 'cool' but I wouldn't mind seeing him try. He'd fit 'Son of Man' Constantine pretty well, though.
Matt Ryan is Welsh, isn't he? John's a Liverpudlian who grew up in London.
The show wasn't all that faithful. Most of the plots were brand new. The one episode that I saw which was an actual adaptation completely fluffed it by turning Gary Lester into a tragic/heroic figure. Yuk. They seemed too afraid to make John a bastard.
Don't even get me started
Watchmen wasn't faithful enough IMO. Film totally missed the point of the source material too. Punching through walls? Ozymandias getting his comeuppance (of sorts) at the hands of freakin' Nite Owl? No thanks. I'm fine with some of the changes in Preacher, even the big ones. Tulip, for instance, is bloody awesome. Quincanon being part of Jesse's origin? That works okay. I've even come to terms with the fact that Custer Senior's changes might be leading somewhere...
But making the show crawl at a snail's pace? They could've made it feel more anarchic/freewheeling without burning through stories. Tulip's intro was brilliant. That hotel cold open is another superb example and one of the best bits in the series! Arseface's new history? I'm sure they could've left him as fairly innocent. Custer Junior being such an unlikeable douche? I don't get that at all. His character development in the comics would've translated perfectly well. Point of fact: this last episode, where he stays with Cassidy despite his uh predicament, was much more in line with the comic character. Hopefully we'll see more of it in future.
/rant
You're comparing this to Lord of the Rings?
Lord of the Rings was, let's say, 70 - 80% close to the source material.
This is like... 2%, if that. There are characters that have the same names as characters in the book, but that's it. It's not an adaptation, it's something wholly different exploiting a known and beloved IP to try and dupe an audience into watching it.
we haven't even gotten on the road. We haven't even gotten to the beginning of the comic. It's not really exploiting or duping anyone. I'm glad they're doing this. Better they "mess up" something original without groundwork than the stuff that's been setup for them. Even characterization aside I think they've done something unique and wholly interesting. If I want to read the comic I'll read the comic. I don't need it retold to me again in another medium. That'd be boring. This show has been not that. Thankfully.
Shambalakan
Member
After watching first episode, I thought Preacher is going to be a series like Ash Vs Evil Dead. A journey with 3,4 characters to find something, but it wasn't like that in the next episodes.
But now after reading this, I think about the journey again! Is it like that in the comics?
We don't have to get on the road to recognize the stark changes. We won't ever touch the beginning of the comic. Being on the road changes nothing about the TV show. They aren't the same characters, or even similar outside of proinsias. Sometimes changes are necessary for a adaptation, I get that. But this isn't the same. The walking dead changed things, but the characters were for the most part true to the comic versions that people loved. I don't get a lot of the changes, but most of all I don't get the change of the Custer's. Making them terrible, horrible people doesn't make them better or more real or human, it makes them worse.
Yep, this premise is the comic. However as said above these characters aren't.
I have to agree. I know we're supposed to let it go about of devotion to the source material-but if the pacing were better it wouldn't be such an easy thing I remember. As we near the end of the season, I can look back and it really bothers me how the entire season was spinning it's wheels.
Yeah Gilgun is fucking amazing in everything I've seen him in.
Season finale today:
- ICYMI: Preacher Renewed for Season 2 at AMC .
- Promo for this week's episode.
- ICYMI: Preacher Renewed for Season 2 at AMC .
Yeah that ending montage was waaaay too long, seriously what the...
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Also, a new episode of Talking Preacher will air following the finale.
lazybones18
Banned
Time for the final Sunday service of the year
Baroquemantic
Member
Here we go!
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
What was the cold open? I missed it.
lazybones18
Banned
Sheriff is getting in way too deep
Zoe
Member
Just a montage of people getting ready for the big event like ladies in line getting braziliians and highlights.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I love this show and I've been a fan of the comic for years.
Also the music selection is top notch
Also the music selection is top notch
lazybones18
Banned
It's the Final Countdown
LyleLanley
Banned
Damn, I forgot when this was on. How quickly does AMC put it up for streaming?
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Tulip is the most BAE worthy character ever.
Baroquemantic
Member
I'm sorry, but this is more hilarious to me than it should be.
Baroquemantic
Member
Lmao. This is great. Ol' fake ass god.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
lmao
lazybones18
Banned
God Is Dead
tycoonheart
Member
at first i was like this is terrible. then i was like this is hilarious.
Baroquemantic
Member
I think both.