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PS5 Pro discounted in UK (Curry's, Argos and EE)

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I wouldn't be so sure. The people I know that buy everything have effectively boycotted buying the Pro over the forced digital angle and the gouging of £100 for the drive. I don't see a scenario where the existing Pro with an external disc drive becomes available at under £600 before they could make and ship a newer Pro disc drive SKU and sell below £700.

I think those sales might just be lost, as unlike the PS3 this is a mid-gen refresh eating its own time with a PS6 coming.

The PS5 Pro doesn't have to sell like the PS3 though.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
The PS5 Pro doesn't have to sell like the PS3 though.
That is true, but it does have to sell PS4 Pro's proportion of 20m units in the UK to put PlayStation in a good place to launch a PS6, and at present with the damage in brand trust they've done with the digital push of discless premium system I think the Pro has the potential to do long term PS3 level damage in the UK to their mind share.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
A good point, but IIRC all our goods that arrive indirectly through EU ports still have the EU sales tax baked in too, like they were before Brexit, so unless PlayStations come direct from a region like Australia where we have a different trade arrangement or assembled/'made 'in the UK Sony/retailers see even less of the sales price AFAIK.

Ultra-simplistic "analysis" like comparing RRP's is straight-up cringe. Economic conditions vary from region to region, and this impacts not only entire supply chains, but customer behaviours.

The idea that corporation X is exploiting customers in region Y is so basic and brain-dead, when the obvious reality is that every corporation is looking to "exploit" - as in extract as much revenue/benefit as possible from -*every* region! Because that's just how business works!

If a product is sold at a discount its not an expression of love or respect, its just a means to maximize profit be it by dumping slow-moving inventory, or taking a short-term hit in the hopes of greater gains in the long-term.

Its basic laws of the marketplace, which is why I made the suggestion of importing and seeing if a better deal materializes. I wasn't being facetious, I was trying to indicate to the latest member of my B-List club the significant influence of forces controlling mercantile conditions beyond the buyer and seller.
 
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You can get with 20% off at very for the pro at disk drive for 635. Not bad assuming the buy now pay later discount applies to this product

Can't believe a disk drive is 100 quid .

Double cheese burgers used to be 1£ that's 100 double cheese burgers!

These days double cheese burgers are 2.50. that's now only 40 cheese burgers = 1 disk drive.

I'm wondering how much a pro would cost in equivalent double cheese burgers ?
 
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Currys wouldn't honour their price promise as I purchased on the 10th of October when pre-orders opened, despite me asking them yesterday 6 days after receiving the item, so I've arranged a return with them for a full refund and bought from Very for £565, thanks very much Currys, that's a much better value proposition for the Pro after seeing what Sony delivered.
 

FunkMiller

Member
It's clearly not the sell out the base console was. Far from it, if it's being discounted already.

Good. Sony shouldn't be rewarded for nickle and dime bullshit like no disc drive and stand.
 

clarky

Gold Member
You can get with 20% off at very for the pro at disk drive for 635. Not bad assuming the buy now pay later discount applies to this product

Can't believe a disk drive is 100 quid .

Double cheese burgers used to be 1£ that's 100 double cheese burgers!

These days double cheese burgers are 2.50. that's now only 40 cheese burgers = 1 disk drive.

I'm wondering how much a pro would cost in equivalent double cheese burgers ?
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Muddy

Member
That is true, but it does have to sell PS4 Pro's proportion of 20m units in the UK to put PlayStation in a good place to launch a PS6, and at present with the damage in brand trust they've done with the digital push of discless premium system I think the Pro has the potential to do long term PS3 level damage in the UK to their mind share.

PS4/PS4 Pro sold 20 million units in the UK? Am i reading that correctly?

When did this happen?

The number is closer to 7 million in total.
 
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mdkirby

Gold Member
Erm, we’re not America, but we’ve pretty much embraced Black Friday…and for some reason it lasts for about a month.
 

midnightAI

Member
So sales are happening in many stores for many goods and people actually think this is because Pro isn't selling? It's November in the UK, we always have these sales (we do kinda have Black Friday but many retailers treat the couple of weeks leading up to Black Friday and around a week after that as sales weeks, you can go to many retail websites in the UK right now and find sales all over them)
 

HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
It's clearly not the sell out the base console was. Far from it, if it's being discounted already.

Good. Sony shouldn't be rewarded for nickle and dime bullshit like no disc drive and stand.
It’s November, holiday time. A $50 deal is just that. And nobody is being nickel and dimed anything. It is a premium console and obviously not geared toward the masses and no one is forced to buy it.
 
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That is true, but it does have to sell PS4 Pro's proportion of 20m units in the UK to put PlayStation in a good place to launch a PS6, and at present with the damage in brand trust they've done with the digital push of discless premium system I think the Pro has the potential to do long term PS3 level damage in the UK to their mind share.
wtf did i just read.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
PS4/PS4 Pro sold 20 million units in the UK? Am i reading that correctly?

When did this happen?

The number is closer to 7 million in total.
No you aren't :), the word 'proportion' is in there for that very reason to denote the 'fraction' of the total 20m worldwide PS4 Pro sales that were sold in the UK
 

PaintTinJr

Member
wtf did i just read.
Poor UK sales for PS5 Pro is an issue for Ps6 because failing to read the room on a lack of UK acceptance for PlayStation pushing digital - as we didn't like the Xbox One launch for the same reason - is a problem for PS6 because PlayStation clearly want to make the drive optional and gouge with the accessory in all major territories of which the UK and USA are probably the most important for a successful launch IMO.
 

Markio128

Gold Member
Poor UK sales for PS5 Pro is an issue for Ps6 because failing to read the room on a lack of UK acceptance for PlayStation pushing digital - as we didn't like the Xbox One launch for the same reason - is a problem for PS6 because PlayStation clearly want to make the drive optional and gouge with the accessory in all major territories of which the UK and USA are probably the most important for a successful launch IMO.
Bit early for the doom and gloom pal, it’s only been out for a week.
 
Poor UK sales for PS5 Pro is an issue for Ps6 because failing to read the room on a lack of UK acceptance for PlayStation pushing digital - as we didn't like the Xbox One launch for the same reason - is a problem for PS6 because PlayStation clearly want to make the drive optional and gouge with the accessory in all major territories of which the UK and USA are probably the most important for a successful launch IMO.
PS5 pro sales are not related to PS6 in any way. That product will always be for a restricted audience. Also, the PS5 Pro has sold more than the PS4 pro on its first week in both Japan and Spain for now. Basically the 2 countries we got any data so far. No indication of the UK being any different.

Sales for games in the UK overall are also much more digital than physical like the rest of the world. So that's not an issue.
 
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PaintTinJr

Member
PS5 pro sales are not related to PS6 in any way. That product will always be for a restricted audience. Also, the PS5 Pro has sold more than the PS4 pro on its first week in both Japan and Spain for now. Basically the 2 countries we got any data so far. No indication of the UK being any different.

Sales for games in the UK overall are also much more digital than physical like the rest of the world. So that's not an issue.
No, digital launch sales for PlayStation AAA non-gaas - that have a physical copy - games are still only equal or a minority, but people keep using digital sales after launch and non AAA games to distort that reality
 

HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
Had you read my previous posts leading up to the ones on this page you would see the context of why between a widespread UK price cut after days of launch and anecdotally why I think it has already failed in the UK.
I read all of your posts and they read as premature and delusional. We have multiple regions with results already and that’s what you came up with.

I’d say put the brakes on that view until we actually have more data.
 

King Dazzar

Member
Who knows how this is doing in the UK until figures roll in. However for something allegedly doing so badly as some would have us believe. I do think its interesting and a key fact that its sold out on Amazon UK. And when I look on the likes of the EE store, it clearly states its not only a Black Friday deal, but also that its a limited time offer. And on Argos the price is now back to £689.99. And Currys is now £699.99 again.

My only personal thought on reflection is, why did I bother with any pre ordering faffing. But I loves mi Pro regardless. All good in the hood for moi.
 
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Bojji

Member
The one he had to use used parts on again lol? The 7800xt has worse RT performance than the pro too. And why lol on the dualsense, if we're comparing costs, that's like £60 by itself.

Build discussions are there, no matter Linus video.

Dual sense is not required to play games on PC while it's required on PS5.

It's also poor controller for pc with limited support without steam input or third party apps. Xbox controllers are much better.
 
How are people getting it from very that cheap?

If you sign up for a credit account, you get 20% off your first credit order using the code WELCOME, it puts it on a Buy now pay later for 12 months and then you can just pay the balance in one go or over the year so you don't incur interest, just make sure you do pay it before that offer expires or the interest will wipe out the saving.
 

Muddy

Member
No you aren't :), the word 'proportion' is in there for that very reason to denote the 'fraction' of the total 20m worldwide PS4 Pro sales that were sold in the UK

Thanks.

How many Pro units were sold in the UK?

6.8 million PS4s in total so going by the average around 20% were PS4 Pros.

1.7 million?
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That is true, but it does have to sell PS4 Pro's proportion of 20m units in the UK to put PlayStation in a good place to launch a PS6, and at present with the damage in brand trust they've done with the digital push of discless premium system I think the Pro has the potential to do long term PS3 level damage in the UK to their mind share.

Agreed. Now we wait to see if it can do that.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
Thanks.

How many Pro units were sold in the UK?

6.8 million PS4s in total so going by the average around 20% were PS4 Pros.

1.7 million?
I looked for numbers for the UK and couldn't credibly source them, but those numbers seem very low for the PS4/Pro total. as I suspect the UK and Japan account for similar market share and I think that will be about 1/8 of the 117m, even just going by monthly percentages of straggler sales in months of this year, so would think 12-14m was more likely for the PS4/Pro, with the Pro sales being more like 2-3m.

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For reference the Xbox One is confirmed to have sold 12.8m units lifetime in Europe (by Copilot) and the majority(6.5m) of that 13m will be UK sales, and we know the PS4 outsold the Xbox one over 2:1 worldwide and slightly less in major territories like US, UK and far more than that in Euro, Jap. so at least 10m for PS4 would seem like a fair lowest possible bounds IMO.
 
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PaintTinJr

Member
Oh my sweet summer child...no. Just...no.
I get that you drank the Kool aid, but factor out the others like Xbox that slant things and just pick a title like Astro Bot and ask yourself what percentage of those were digital in the UK at launch, even with it being a £50 AAA game, or ask yourself why the Drive scalping situation is angering so many people.

You are also make the assumption that consumers that buy digital don't still value having a choice to physical if the pricing necessitates. For my outlier two gaming friends that bought Wu kong digital, they still want physical as a choice and aren't prepared to pay £100 for £5 technology feature.

No. The PS4 Pro sold 20% of all PS4 units starting from the moment it came out. Not lifetime PS4 sales.
but this is the UK only we are discussing, and it isn't unreasonable to expect 20% PS4s in the UK were Pro rebuys.
 
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