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[franconp]

Here is what I think: We have a patient 0 (A) who has a level 1 virus. At night he will upgrade to level 2 and infect another one (B). That infected (B) can perform a night kill. The next night the infected (B) will upgrade to level 2 and together with patient 0 (A) will select someone else to infect (C) who will perform the night kill.

Why I think it should be like this? Because if only patient 0 (A) can become a level 2 then that means that by night 4 we could be facing 3 kills per night and we could lose easily by night 4. It would be an almost impossible game to win for town. I know that Cabot was involved with the design, but even he would make a game soo impossible.

 

[Sawneeks]

Hey Dusk, are we electing the Director every Day phase or is it only for Day 1?

 

[Natiko]

I'm seeing lots of flimsy pushes for director currently, but I would like to add my name to the list. There's two things to note in who we elect. First off, the elected person needs to be town (obviously) which if the theory about the Aroxometer is true we have a very good chance of doing. The second thing is we need to elect someone that won't just be picked off by scum N1. If we fail either of these situations then we will have effectively given scum a two person boost in voting power. Due to this I think voting for me would be a wise choice.

 

[11037]

Maybe the director can't be infected?

 

[CCS]

Given the rating and the fact scum can convert, I wonder if we have a doctor capable of converting scum back to town? Might also explain how the game is balanced.

 

[franconp]

I'm seeing lots of flimsy pushes for director currently, but I would like to add my name to the list. There's two things to note in who we elect. First off, the elected person needs to be town (obviously) which if the theory about the Aroxometer is true we have a very good chance of doing. The second thing is we need to elect someone that won't just be picked off by scum N1. If we fail either of these situations then we will have effectively given scum a two person boost in voting power. Due to this I think voting for me would be a wise choice.

Scum will know who we elect so they could easily picked off by scum N1. The voting it's not secret.

 

[Ourobolus]

Given the rating and the fact scum can convert, I wonder if we have a doctor capable of converting scum back to town? Might also explain how the game is balanced.

That would be ridiculous if scum knows who its members are

 

[Fat4all]

But I digress. If there is only 1 scum right now in the game, getting that scum right is only 1/20 chance at this point. It's more viable to try to figure out today who is trustworthy enough for the Director role.

So far;

Verelios volunteered
CSS nominated acohrs
Sawneeks showed interest
Ourobolus volunteered

 

[Sawneeks]

Given the rating and the fact scum can convert, I wonder if we have a doctor capable of converting scum back to town? Might also explain how the game is balanced.

That was never proven to be fact, we were all making assumptions based on the opening.

You were quick to take it as fact though.

 

[Natiko]

Scum will know who we elect so they could easily picked off by scum N1. The voting it's not secret.

I know the voting and director will not be secret, hence we need someone that can stay on the side of town despite that.

 

[Swamped]

So far;

Verelios volunteered
CSS nominated acohrs
Sawneeks showed interest
Ourobolus volunteered

I also loudly volunteered!

That's why you should all vote for me to be your leader. I know I'm town.

 

[Burbeting]

I'll volunteer as well.

 

[CCS]

That would be ridiculous if scum knows who its members are

Ah yeah, good point. Didn't think of that.

Is it possible scum won't know all their members? Like I'm envisaging this scenario (just throwing out ideas here):

1 Phase 2. Uncurable, can infect.
Creates Phase 1 infected. They can kill but won't evolve to Phase 2 (I know the description says they can, but it doesn't mention a timescale so that could be misleading). Their feral nature means they don't know each other or the Phase 2. Can be cured.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Hey Dusk, are we electing the Director every Day phase or is it only for Day 1?

If the Director dies the role will not be replaced.

 

[Sawneeks]

So far;

Verelios volunteered
CSS nominated acohrs
Sawneeks showed interest
Ourobolus volunteered

I would like to make my run official.

Got to give me a bit to make a snazzy slogan tho

 

[Natiko]

So far;

Verelios volunteered
CSS nominated acohrs
Sawneeks showed interest
Ourobolus volunteered

I volunteered as well. I believe we have 6/20 that all want to be director. I will say again though, it is important to select someone that won't just be converted into scum or killed - however it happens to work.

 

[CCS]

That was never proven to be fact, we were all making assumptions based on the opening.

You were quick to take it as fact though.

Well I assume Araxometer rating of one implies one scum. If so, this would a incredibly town biased game if they can't convert

 

[Burbeting]

Maybe Level 2 infected (the recruiter) will know who are Level 1, but the recruited level 1 infected won't know who level 2 is?

Although that would mean the Level 1 could kill Level 2 recruiter by accident.

 

[acohrs]

Here is what I think: We have a patient 0 (A) who has a level 1 virus. At night he will upgrade to level 2 and infect another one (B). That infected (B) can perform a night kill. The next night the infected (B) will upgrade to level 2 and together with patient 0 (A) will select someone else to infect (C) who will perform the night kill.

Why I think it should be like this? Because if only patient 0 (A) can become a level 2 then that means that by night 4 we could be facing 3 kills per night and we could lose easily by night 4. It would be an almost impossible game to win for town. I know that Cabot was involved with the design, but even he would make a game soo impossible.

This sounds like the clearest and most logical idea about the game design so far, not that it really helps us for now. Confirmation will be given after D1 and N1 activities.

So, who to vote for? Do we random vote each other and ask for a summary of why we should vote for that person?

 

[franconp]

I know the voting and director will not be secret, hence we need someone that can stay on the side of town despite that.

And how we do that? We vote someone who want to lose so he can help us.

Ah yeah, good point. Didn't think of that.

Is it possible scum won't know all their members? Like I'm envisaging this scenario (just throwing out ideas here):

1 Phase 2. Uncurable, can infect.
Creates Phase 1 infected. They can kill but won't evolve to Phase 2 (I know the description says they can, but it doesn't mention a timescale so that could be misleading). Their feral nature means they don't know each other or the Phase 2. Can be cured.

As I said before if the game is like that town is dead by night 4 when there are 3 or 4 night kills per night.

 

[Burbeting]

So, who to vote for? Do we random vote each other and ask for a summary of why we should vote for that person?

Generally you should vote for your top town, but with the possible recruitment mechanic, things might be bit more complicated.

 

[Natiko]

Maybe Level 2 infected (the recruiter) will know who are Level 1, but the recruited level 1 infected won't know who level 2 is?

Although that would mean the Level 1 could kill Level 2 recruiter by accident.

What I'm imagining is there's probably a transition phase. Level 1's will not fully be scum and probably won't have access to the scum chat. They may not even know they're infected, that we won't know until D2. I would guess there will be ways to cure someone who is in the first phase, but once you hit the second phase you cannot be cured and gain access to the scum chat.

 

[Kevyt]

Hello beautiful people! o/

Oh, I see there's some traction against acohrs.

Ummm.... HMMMMM hmmmm.

 

[Sawneeks]

If the Director dies the role will not be replaced.

Gotcha.

Given this then I'm guessing that either the Director is protected the first Night ( since it would be easy for Scum to just kill the elected Director ), they can be infected, OR maybe Scum can't kill on Night 1?

Going back to the whole Level 1 vs Level 2 thing, maybe the first Scum member is the Level 2 and can recruit and the kills are left to the Level 1 infected only. Meaning if Scum did start off as Level 2 they can not kill, only infect others.

This balances out having the Director be elected since it would be far too easy for Scum to simply kill them tonight and have that role be essentially worthless.

 

[Swamped]

As a townie I know I can make good use of the director power. If I get voted today, I will

(1) Be transparent about anything that happened to me on N1, if at all I survive
(2) Reveal my history towards the end of D1 (In case I die N1)

 

[Kalor]

Maybe Level 2 infected (the recruiter) will know who are Level 1, but the recruited level 1 infected won't know who level 2 is?

Although that would mean the Level 1 could kill Level 2 recruiter by accident.

The recruiter could be night kill immune to prevent that scenario.

I'll volunteer as well for the director.

 

[Fat4all]

Hello beautiful people! o/

Oh, I see there's some traction against acohrs.

Ummm.... HMMMMM hmmmm.

Actually, it's not against, but for.

Read the day-one post, ya.

 

[Sawneeks]

Well I assume Araxometer rating of one implies one scum. If so, this would a incredibly town biased game if they can't convert

True, it's strongly implied that everything is based on recruitment but until we get hard evidence of that I wouldn't take anything as fact.

 

[Ourobolus]

Hello beautiful people! o/

Oh, I see there's some traction against acohrs.

Ummm.... HMMMMM hmmmm.

Yeah, Seath, read the day-opening post. This game is a little different so far.

 

[Fat4all]

acohrs, you were the first to be proper voted for.

And you clearly want to be Director considering how you tried self voting.

Give your campaign speel. Why should you be Director?

 

[Verelios]

If the Director dies the role will not be replaced.

Oh boy

As a townie I know I can make good use of the director power. If I get voted today, I will

(1) Be transparent about anything that happened to me on N1, if at all I survive
(2) Reveal my history towards the end of D1 (In case I die N1)

How do I know you won't just be paying us lip service come day end?

 

[CCS]

True, it's strongly implied that everything is based on recruitment but until we get hard evidence of that I wouldn't take anything as fact.

You have to leap to conclusions sometimes.

The second frog doesn't get the dinner after all

 

[Kawl_USC]

howdy y'all

would rather not get bogged down in the rabbit hole of trying to guess the mechanics when we have so little data to work off of. as we gain more info things should hopefully become clearer.

what I would like to ask is:

do you think a triple vote with the possibility of it going to scum, is a positive utility or negative utility?

 

[acohrs]

Spoiler

it's a trap?

 

[Ourobolus]

Ok, let's do this. Let's stop making assumptions (yes I know I did it too, but shut up), and let's discuss who to vote for.

Obviously we need a Director, and a Triple Voter role will be fantastic for Town. We have a high chance of selecting a townie for the role simply based on numbers. However, it's fair to say that that person will be a target for much of the game (until they are dead). Again, hopefully we have a doctor with a cure or whatever this game's equivalent is.

 

[Natiko]

howdy y'all

would rather not get bogged down in the rabbit hole of trying to guess the mechanics when we have so little data to work off of. as we gain more info things should hopefully become clearer.

what I would like to ask is:

do you think a triple vote with the possibility of it going to scum, is a positive utility or negative utility?

I think that entirely depends on who is granted it and if they can be converted to scum.

 

[Verelios]

howdy y'all

would rather not get bogged down in the rabbit hole of trying to guess the mechanics when we have so little data to work off of. as we gain more info things should hopefully become clearer.

what I would like to ask is:

do you think a triple vote with the possibility of it going to scum, is a positive utility or negative utility?

Very positive early on and only negative as days pass and/or director can be infected. Of course there's the possibility of our Director always betting on the wrong horse but eh...

 

[Ourobolus]

howdy y'all

would rather not get bogged down in the rabbit hole of trying to guess the mechanics when we have so little data to work off of. as we gain more info things should hopefully become clearer.

what I would like to ask is:

do you think a triple vote with the possibility of it going to scum, is a positive utility or negative utility?

Both. Triple Voting scum is a HUGE power, but it should also be a decent way to figure out that they are scum based on voting patterns. However, I feel like the chance of it being scum is low, so while it's good to consider, I'm hoping it's not the result.

 

[Swamped]

Oh boy

How do I know you won't just be paying us lip service come day end?

You'll have to just trust that I will tell you the truth.

 

[CCS]

I should be director.

D ebonair
I nimitable
R ambling
E legant
C CS
T own
O rnamental
R ight

 

[Kawl_USC]

I think that entirely depends on who is granted it and if they can be converted to scum.

so cool, we don't have answers to those questions. with both of those in the air, do you think its positive or negative utility?

 

[Faddy]

This is not a drill this is a code red. Attention to all in the building. There is an outbreak of the Araxia virus, and we will need to place Lakeshore Pharmatech under quarantine.

As you know, the Araxia virus was discovered on the island of Araxia. An island situated off the western coast of South America. When a person becomes infected with Araxia, their cognitive functions become greatly reduced rendering them feral and violent. An infected human is commonly called an Araxoid. Araxoids are very dangerous and can kill without warning. What's most dangerous however is when the infection advances to what we call stage 2. At a stage 2 infection, the Araxoid's intelligence returns to human-like levels, as well they gain the ability to infect other humans.

We cannot let this outbreak produce a stage 2 Araxoid. That would be catastrophic. The building's Aroxometer is currently giving a reading of 1. When the reading has returned to 0 it means, the outbreak has been contained. A reading of 5 is very bad, we don't have the means to combat an outbreak of that level. If the Aroxometer reading creeps all they way up to 10 then the quarantine has failed.

Those parts make me think that the infected might have restrictions when level 1 in posting, voting or items.

 

[Fat4all]

Ok, let's do this. Let's stop making assumptions (yes I know I did it too, but shut up), and let's discuss who to vote for.

Obviously we need a Director, and a Triple Voter role will be fantastic for Town. We have a high chance of selecting a townie for the role simply based on numbers. However, it's fair to say that that person will be a target for much of the game (until they are dead). Again, hopefully we have a doctor with a cure or whatever this game's equivalent is.

Yeah, I'm assuming there is some built in safeguards there potentially for the elected Director. It'd be a throw away otherwise.

 

[Verelios]

I should be director.

D ebonair
I nimitable
R ambling
E legant
C CS
T own
O rnamental
R ight

I'm sorry, I don't believe I know this...CCS adjective you speak of. Could it be a synonym for zombie outbreak?

 

[Fat4all]

I should be director.

D ebonair
I nimitable
R ambling
E legant
C CS
T own
O rnamental
R ight

Why don't you want acohrs to be the Director anymore?

 

[CCS]

I'm sorry, I don't believe I know this...CCS adjective you speak of. Could it be a synonym for zombie outbreak?

Anything can be a synonym in the right language

Why don't you want acohrs to be the Director anymore?

I can't self vote, and he's my second favourite person after me

 

[acohrs]

acohrs, you were the first to be proper voted for.

And you clearly want to be Director considering how you tried self voting.

Give your campaign speel. Why should you be Director?

I'm a great public speaker and not afraid to make the hard decisions when they need making. If you vote for me, you're voting to put America first. We will hire American and bu- oh wait wrong speech.

If you vote for me, I promise a game without a dull moment! I will be as successful a leader as this guy was

Thank you for your time!

 

[Sawneeks]

Oh boy

How do I know you won't just be paying us lip service come day end?

Some advice: Swamped is the Dazzling Mafia Queen. She will probably lie and lie very well.

Spoiler

this may or may not be because i've fallen for her fake town act. twice. >.>;

howdy y'all

would rather not get bogged down in the rabbit hole of trying to guess the mechanics when we have so little data to work off of. as we gain more info things should hopefully become clearer.

what I would like to ask is:

do you think a triple vote with the possibility of it going to scum, is a positive utility or negative utility?

My initial thought is it's a negative utility. 3-votes going to one person a TON of power since they can sway votes just by themselves.

Given to a Townie we would have to hope that person's reads are correct since they can lead mislynches on their own.

Given to a Scum player I'd assume it would make them play more cautious and in Town's favor ( my first thought was Crimson as Sheriff in Woof 2 ) which would be good for us since if they had to bus a teammate it would be a lot clearer with their vote being counted as 3 instead of 1. This could also be bad since if that person is a convincing Scum player they could lead Town astray with their power.

Adding in the layer of possible recruitment, the Director is highly likely to go to Scum at some point. Even if it doesn't if a Townie gets picked they have an incredibly high likelihood of dying and a very high chance of swaying votes incorrectly.

 

[acohrs]

I should be director.

D ebonair
I nimitable
R ambling
E legant
C CS
T own
O rnamental
R ight

 

[CCS]

Mate, I'm still voting for you. Think of me as the Putin to your Trump