Alright, look, I'm the Infected, and I'm roleclaiming today in a bid to be cured and return to Town, but I need the Director power for this plan to work.
Why am I roleclaiming as the lone Infected? Because I realized this:
I'm going to infect a random person. I have no control over who I'm adding to my team (I think this is done so that I'm not just building some mafia supergroup of the best, scummiest Gafia players). This is how the game works, and it's why we're voting for a Director right now - it means they dont' just auto-join the mafia team.
But I think I see a way out for me, and a benefit for Town.
How?
- Tonight, I'll add a random player to Infected. Notice that in the "feral" state, I actually don't get to communicate with them, so I don't actually learn who they are for a night. They will kill someone (this is when the NK happens), and likely target me. This is how I noticed my "out'.
- As Director, I have a higher chance of being protected or cured or something, aka converted to non-Infected/Town, which I'm pretty confident is a thing in this game.
- So I get cured, switched to Town, and then Town doesn't have to worry about the Director falling into mafia for the rest of the game.
Look, it's crazy, maybe a bit exploit-y, cheesing the game a little, but this is the best solution I see to this problem right now. Otherwise, lol, I'm dead - but Infected will live on.
Alright, look, I'm the Infected, and I'm roleclaiming today in a bid to be cured and return to Town, but I need the Director power for this plan to work.
Why am I roleclaiming as the lone Infected? Because I realized this:
I'm going to infect a random person. I have no control over who I'm adding to my team (I think this is done so that I'm not just building some mafia supergroup of the best, scummiest Gafia players). This is how the game works, and it's why we're voting for a Director right now - it means they dont' just auto-join the mafia team.
But I think I see a way out for me, and a benefit for Town.
How?
- Tonight, I'll add a random player to Infected. Notice that in the "feral" state, I actually don't get to communicate with them, so I don't actually learn who they are for a night. They will kill someone (this is when the NK happens), and likely target me. This is how I noticed my "out'.
- As Director, I have a higher chance of being protected or cured or something, aka converted to non-Infected/Town, which I'm pretty confident is a thing in this game.
- So I get cured, switched to Town, and then Town doesn't have to worry about the Director falling into mafia for the rest of the game.
Look, it's crazy, maybe a bit exploit-y, cheesing the game a little, but this is the best solution I see to this problem right now. Otherwise, lol, I'm dead - but Infected will live on.
I don't know what to think about Kark's post. Would scum claim? Can the recruiter really be cured? Seems game-breaking.
Or is this some mad karkadorian scheme.
Ok, wait a sec.
I'm going to make an assumption here -
If you are already infected (i.e., you've spent a day as infected), then I feel like you shouldn't be cured, because then you'd be a townie and have slightly more knowledge than the rest of town, which seems antithetical to how the game works.
Kark I finally had blocked NX out of my mind what are you doing
Kark you want us to vote for an infected member for dictator? What if you do't get cured or whatever? What do you do then?
Why we NEED to make you director if you are the infected? I don't understand that. We can do all of that even if you are not the director. I'm leaning more to something like a neutral. You need the Director role to complete a condition or something.
Yeah. If you can really be cured then you don't need the to be the director to be cured. I would rather we vote for someone who didn't just claim to be infected member.Why we NEED to make you director if you are the infected? I don't understand that. We can do all of that even if you are not the director. I'm leaning more to something like a neutral. You need the Director role to complete a condition or something.
Yeah, this is where I lay.
You are claiming in hopes of getting cured, but why do you need to be Director?
Infected are all recruiters, so the game doesn't break. I will blind-recruit tonight, and then they will recruit, and so on. I can bail out now, but the chain of infected will continue just because of the delay in knowing who gets infected.
Higher chance of being cured, and I'm pretty sure if I'm cured I can't go back to Infected.
If Kark is telling the truth we don't have a say in who scum "targets," so why not roll the dice.
I'm ok with this plan.
A) If there is someone that can "cure" Karkador, then we have a townie. If for some reason Kark had a partner(s) then we can get their names. This is insane and as a moderator I would never allow it, but still.
B) Kark is lying. If he survives until D3 I would lynch him on principle.
C) Kark has no partners, but we now have a townie that is Director and can be protected.
fucking NX
This is something I can't believe. If all the infected are recruiters the game ends by night 4 and it would be really broken. I think you are lying but still don't know what you gain with that. Why the bold claim.
A) We do not know if someone can be cured or at what level they can be cured. Also, why would we not just give it to someone else who in this hypothetical situation is most likely already town as Kark just claimed lone scum? If they were ever flipped they could still then be cured.
B) How does giving him the director role help us in any way given this? You yourself argued you wanted to give it to someone that could be analytical and make good moves for town early on. Giving it to scum seems like the complete opposite of that.
C) How did he get to a townie in this situation? Isn't this just A except you assumed he would be cured?
What even am I reading? Definitely not voting for Kark or Ouro at this point lol
Kark, would you know who was infected once they also become a recruiter? Since you said there would be a delay.
I suppose so, since they'll join the chat. I guess that makes a limited window of opportunity for getting cured
It makes that Level 2 infected being cured later in the game would more or less break the game. They could out most of the other infected then.
This is a bullshit plan, if you are Level 2 already.
I started "feral" and Cabot died. Tonight I'll be Level 2 and that's when I randomly recruit
I started "feral" and Cabot died. Tonight I'll be Level 2 and that's when I randomly recruit
B) So you think Kark, who you do not know can become Town and currently have been told by Kark himself is not Town is the best choice for us today? Over anyone else?A) I am making an assumption here about "curing." Obviously I don't know on D1 how it works.
B) Kark, if Town, I think can be a good asset.
C) My assumption here was that he became Town after being "cured," if that is a thing.
and yes Natiko, Kark and I are totally scum and we overplayed our hands on D1
If what you are saying it's true the game would be over in 2 weeks. If the infected grow exponentially that would be that the game is unwinnable by night 3:
Night 1 you infect someone else so 2 scum.
Night 2 both infect 2 more so 4 scum.
Night 3 there would be 8 scum and game over as there is no way to win.
If that's true it would be really easy to the infected to win the game, so why the risk to make the claim. You could win really easily without claiming in a couple of nights.
This is a good point. What's the reason for you to switch off to town Kark when being infected according to you sounds pretty good for a win con.If what you are saying it's true the game would be over in 2 weeks. If the infected grow exponentially that would be that the game is unwinnable by night 3:
Night 1 you infect someone else so 2 scum.
Night 2 both infect 2 more so 4 scum.
Night 3 there would be 8 scum and game over as there is no way to win.
If that's true it would be really easy to the infected to win the game, so why the risk to make the claim. You could win really easily without claiming in a couple of nights.
Kark, is there another infected already besides you?
so you'd have to be cured before the day ends?
:/
B) So you think Kark, who you do not know can become Town and currently have been told by Kark himself is not Town is the best choice for us today? Over anyone else?
I don't recall ever saying that. I just said I have no interest in voting for either of you. Regardless of which if either of you is telling the truth both of you have shown enough for me to not put my trust there.
I don't think it's gonna be that easy. I suspect there's gonna be a lot of turn-around in Infected. If I'm gonna die anyway, I'm trying to use this small opportunity to switch sides.
So that means by the time you hope to be cured, you are already Level 2. Aka. uncurable, unless Dusk designed a game broken from start.
Tell me why we shouldn't lynch you tomorrow, again?