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June

Member
- GTA4 was a bad game and the most overrated game of all time
- The Witcher 3 is a bad game and is the current most overrated game of all time
- Kane & Lynch: Dead Men was pretty good
- FIFA16 is the best football game of all time
- Mass Effect 2 is a bad game and one of the worst sequels ever
- Sony hasn't released a good AAA game this gen (unless Last Guardian counts as AAA?)
- The Dualshock 4 is another bad controller in the long line of bad Sony controllers
 
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Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Its time for some fun "controversial opinion"

YoRHA units can beat the Terminators! I want see army YoRHA units fight against army of Terminators.

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Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Not liking something doesn't make you a contrarian. It just makes you a person...with an opinion.



Having played it back in the day, what it felt like to me was that Xbox owners (and I was - and still am - one as well) had to have something to latch onto, and this was the most conveniently suited to mass appeal so everyone jumped on board screaming "We've got HALO!!!!"

I was like:

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Nothing against those who like/love it. I just can't connect with it.
Exactly how I feel.
 

64gigabyteram

Reverse groomer.
More pure hatred
Sony only managed to get a good rep this gen because the others screwed up
If Xbox and Nintendo upped their game Sony's ass would've been dead
Fuck Konami, those assholes threw away all their franchises in exchange for being a bunch of con artists
Consoles fucking suck and the only cases when they're good is when they're homebrewed and I can pirate the shit out of them or when they're Nintendo consoles since those have a crapola of good exclusives
Even then itd be nice if Nintendo ported them to other platforms instead of being 100% exclusive
Streaming is not the future of gaming and all that say so need to fucking die, not joking
 

kurisu_1974

Banned
Breath of the Wild was super boring.

The drab, repetitive shrines, the empty world, combat was completely useless and I avoided it because you gained nothing and the weapons degraded, the colors looked washed out, the story was non existant, no cool actual dungeons.

Only had fun doing the three puzzles which gave me a classic Zelda vibe.
 

Lanrutcon

Member
People only feel comfortable calling Halo shit because it still feels so modern. It's not Halo's fault every shooter afterward decided to copy it. People only pretend to themselves that games like Doom or Duke Nukem are still any good because they're of an age, you play those games and you feel like you're going back in time. You play Halo, and it could honestly feel like it was released this year.

Naw, I don't feel uncomfortable calling Halo average.

I hold Doom in high regard because it's the granddaddy of the fps craze. It was the catalyst to the popularity of the genre, and the birth of multiplayer shooters as we know it. Gotta respect some dudes in a garage putting together a game that at one point was installed on more devices than Windows.
 

bilderberg

Member
Naw, I don't feel uncomfortable calling Halo average.

I hold Doom in high regard because it's the granddaddy of the fps craze. It was the catalyst to the popularity of the genre, and the birth of multiplayer shooters as we know it. Gotta respect some dudes in a garage putting together a game that at one point was installed on more devices than Windows.
That all makes for a good story, but none of that means anything for people playing it today. Doom 1 and 2 seem to get by on being above criticism by virtue of "it's the grandaddy of the fps," but I couldn't give two shits about it being the grandaddy of anything here in 2019. Doom was already dated within 5 years of release, and playing it now it feels ancient. Maze like level design which isn't coherent, key collecting, awful teleportal puzzles, ambush bait encounters, and level gimmicks which aren't fun. (I dare you to defend Doom 2's "The Chasm" level). FPS's didn't become great until Half Life fixed all the genre's problems, although Quake 2 was pretty good. And if your counter argument is "well it was released in 1993..it's the grandaddy of fps's" than you know how i feel about that.

Halo doesn't have to ride on the "well it's old..it's the grandaddy of fps's,..." because it still feels modern. People aren't reserved to criticize it the same way they are Doom. I'd tell anyone that wants to play Doom for the first time to just play through Episode 1, and completely forget about everything afterwards because it's all shit. Also Doom 3 is the best doom game, by far.
 

Sybb

Banned
"Controversial" opinions are funny. What makes them controversial in the first place? Is it because a lot of people don't agree with you? Is it because your opinion differs from the gaming media? So many forums call people trolls just because they don't agree on certain things. That culture breeds intolerance, which can be clearly seen on a certain other forum named Resetera. It's 100% elitist hive mind. People are expected to agree on a lot.

My opinions would be:

Hideo Kojima has never made a great game, he's too focused on telling stories
Hideki Kamiya has never made a great game, he's too focused on making his game look stylish
Sonic was never good, back in the 90s his game sold on attitude, not great gameplay
Mortal Kombat was never good for the same reason as Sonic
Shigeru Miyamoto hasn't made a great game since Pikmin in 2003
Samus had a fat, flabby ass in Zero Mission (yeah I know, but almost no one agrees on that definition)
 

Lanrutcon

Member
That all makes for a good story, but none of that means anything for people playing it today. Doom 1 and 2 seem to get by on being above criticism by virtue of "it's the grandaddy of the fps," but I couldn't give two shits about it being the grandaddy of anything here in 2019. Doom was already dated within 5 years of release, and playing it now it feels ancient. Maze like level design which isn't coherent, key collecting, awful teleportal puzzles, ambush bait encounters, and level gimmicks which aren't fun. (I dare you to defend Doom 2's "The Chasm" level). FPS's didn't become great until Half Life fixed all the genre's problems, although Quake 2 was pretty good. And if your counter argument is "well it was released in 1993..it's the grandaddy of fps's" than you know how i feel about that.

Halo doesn't have to ride on the "well it's old..it's the grandaddy of fps's,..." because it still feels modern. People aren't reserved to criticize it the same way they are Doom. I'd tell anyone that wants to play Doom for the first time to just play through Episode 1, and completely forget about everything afterwards because it's all shit. Also Doom 3 is the best doom game, by far.

Naw, Halo feels stiff and outdated. Doom at least has historical significance.

Since we're mentioning level gimmicks: Doom 3 was a pretty collection of repetitive monster closets with a shitty shotgun and a terrible monster count due to technological limits. Hard pass.
 
Yeah, I guess it was pretty janky. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
But like KOTOR, it still managed to be awesome.
This is, where we diverge... I played KOTOR the first (and last) time when you could buy Mass Effect 3 for a handful of lint. It was not in any way even near the word "awesome". (I have the feeling, I posted this particular opinion before :unsure: )
 

mcjmetroid

Member
Love RPGs always have, 40 years old and grew up on them. People told me Persona was an amazing series so I got the last one. I literally had to force myself to play 25 hours, I have to quit it, it was literally the worst rpg I have ever played, no joke and perhaps the worst game I have played over 20 hours ever. Unreal how it gets universal acclaim.

Also, Shadow of the Colossus was also overrated and pretty much garbage. The Horse controls were absolutely horrible. Red Dead 2 also has some horrible controls.

You and I seem to have a similar taste lol.
I wouldn't call Persona 5 terrible, I get the appeal but it grew very tiresome after about 20 hours.
 
My controversial (trash?) opinion:

Most Sony first party games all look the same to me and are boring as fuck. I cannot stand the 3rd person, super high production value, heavy narrative-driven action/adventure games. They are far too serious and up their own ass for me to have any actual fun with them.

I went from 360 to PS4 (a move that, even though I've migrated back to Xbox One, I don't regret -- the PS4 is amazing and probably my second favorite console ever; Lotta good memories with it) and now whenever I see shit like God of War or Last of Us Part 2 I just fucking cringe. It just rubs me the wrong way. Ain't no Johnny Gill up in here.

I hope we get a lot more 7's next gen. 7's are more fun, both in games, and women.

This is the only thread I dare say this in; I've lurked a lot of other threads and seen a lot of praise for games I dislike so I just keep scrolling. Who am I to piss on someone else's parade? At the end of the day "fun" is subjective and people should like what they like, so 🤷‍♂️

I just know that shit ain't for me.
 

bilderberg

Member
Naw, Halo feels stiff and outdated. Doom at least has historical significance.

Since we're mentioning level gimmicks: Doom 3 was a pretty collection of repetitive monster closets with a shitty shotgun and a terrible monster count due to technological limits. Hard pass.
Right, the one which controls and plays exactly the same as every other shooter currently is the one which feels outdated.
 
I hope we get a lot more 7's next gen. 7's are more fun, both in games, and women.

I can enjoy Sony's first party output (some of it), but I know exactly what you mean. In the attempts to appeal to the masses, there is a real sacrifice to personality oftentimes. Anything designed to appeal to as many people as possible is going to be missing some character. And I really love games with their own sense of charm and quirk that are disinterested in appealing to everyone.
 

Ivory Blood

Member
- GTA4 was a bad game and the most overrated game of all time
- The Witcher 3 is a bad game and is the current most overrated game of all time
- Kane & Lynch: Dead Men was pretty good
- FIFA16 is the best football game of all time
- Mass Effect 2 is a bad game and one of the worst sequels ever
- Sony hasn't released a good AAA game this gen (unless Last Guardian counts as AAA?)
- The Dualshock 4 is another bad controller in the long line of bad Sony controllers
I agree with Kane & Lynch, all your other opinions are trash though.
 

GymWolf

Member
General plot in rdr2 is not really that good, what is incredible is arthur progression as a character.

When "we need more money, just another job" became an internet meme you know you fucked up something in your dramatic story...


(And rdr2 is my goty with gow)
 
I can enjoy Sony's first party output (some of it), but I know exactly what you mean. In the attempts to appeal to the masses, there is a real sacrifice to personality oftentimes. Anything designed to appeal to as many people as possible is going to be missing some character. And I really love games with their own sense of charm and quirk that are disinterested in appealing to everyone.

beautifully said. This is exactly what I was trying to express.
 

petran79

Banned
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax could have been Arcs System Works second most popular fighting game in first half of 2010 and even more popular than Blazblue, if Atlus werent so difficult to handle and had released proper dual audio support and a PC port. Story Mode alone in Japanese is better than all fighting game story modes combined.

Here is a clip of the Undub version I recorded with Japanese voice acting in story mode.

 
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When someone ask about a physical copy of a game, I feel like they are "special"😵

I feel like people are forcing themselves to like Death Stranding. There is no way people are enjoying running around that much.😐
 
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Games aren't fun any more, and haven't been since the dreamcast era

Sure they are hyper realistic etc. But the emphasis is more on realistic grass and ripply water than gameplay
 

bilderberg

Member
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no.

Not sure about the others (but I can use my imagination), but Halo 1 was a piece of shit.

Ok millennial.
This is so par for the course. No one actually makes a point. If you actually went about dissecting Borderlands's ( or any shooter released post Halo) mechanics you'd see how much over lap their is. You don't even need to enjoy Halo to at least concede how much influence it's had. I know many people hate it for that exact reason. Please go ahead and make a counter point, i will shoot it the fuck down. And i wont do it with reaction gifs or "AHAHAHAHAHA ..." either.
 
Square and CD would be objectively dumb to make another Tomb Raider instead of a new SP Legacy of Kain game.

Tomb Raider is a dying franchise. Legacy of Kain is ripe for a return.

At me if you want. This is a hill I will die on.

(Nosgoth was a low effort, MP cash grab that was doomed to failure. Bring back the SP goodness of the series. Finish the story.)
I agree. Reboot was eh, Mkay.. Rise & Shadow are lowest common denominator drivel. It is basically like The Simpsons.

Similar in name only yet a gigantic departure from the spirit that made the franchises great to begin with.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
Maybe it's because a chronic condition I deal with has me in pain a lot, which saps my patience, but I could honestly do without any games having any NPC dialogue at all anymore. I can only tolerate it for a couple hours until I just start skipping all of it. Most of it is totally meaningless to the plot, and just very cookie cutter stuff that I don't care about it. It just disrupts the pacing having to stop and go through dialogue when I just want to get to my next objective. Just make all the ones in The Witcher 3 that you can't talk to, but when you run by they make little remarks.

Gears of War is a highly overrated game franchise that sticks with the lame, way outdone, and now archaic cover-based shooting style, and thrives for people who drool over graphics and gore.

Any game that requires "multiple playthroughs" to fully experience is immediately a game I lose respect for. It's almost canon now, people just go "don't worry about missing ____ man, just get it on your second playthrough." And I'm like dude, I just spent 70 fucking hours on this game, by hour 50 I could barely stand looking at it anymore, you think I'm going to go through it all over again? Go to the same towns, fight the same battles, go through all the same dialogue, watch the same cutscenes, etc etc. All while I have a pile of games that are begging to be played in the corner? Fuck that. Make everything attainable in one playthrough in your games, please.
 

jolof96

Member
When someone ask about a physical copy of a game, I feel like they are "special"😵

I feel like people are forcing themselves to like Death Stranding. There is no way people are enjoying running around that much.😐

I actually am loving it, other than the forced combat sections
 

m.i.s.

Banned
I totally don't get the hype with the NSW [or, maybe, I just don't want to as it'd reveal some uncomfortable truths about N-fans]. Didn't understand the hype then and don't understand the hype now.

Some play-doh like contruction kit of a console with barely usable Joycon buttons. ie tiny face buttons and thin strips of shoulder and trigger buttons. And a well below average quality screen. Vita OLED screen is of an order of magnitude times better despite the lower resolution.

And dodgy, plastic construction to boot. Like those cheap, Taiwanese knock-offs.
 
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64gigabyteram

Reverse groomer.
I totally don't get the hype with the NSW [or, maybe, I just don't want to as it'd reveal some uncomfortable truths about N-fans]. Didn't understand the hype then and don't understand the hype now.

Some play-doh like contruction kit of a console with barely usable Joycon buttons. ie tiny face buttons and thin strips of shoulder and trigger buttons. And a well below average quality screen. Vita OLED screen is of an order of magnitude times better despite the lower resolution.

And dodgy, plastic construction to boot. Like those cheap, Taiwanese knock-offs.
90% agree other than the "I don't get the hype part"
Like, does all the staff at nintendo have tiny hands or something? Jesus christ nintendo it's 2017 and the best you could make was that. There are literal 3rd party switch handles for sale. and then those retards made a FUCKING LITE VERSION OF A CONSOLE WITH ALREADY SMALL ENOUGH BUTTONS. Fuck that, if i'm getting a switch (which i 100% am despite all the aforementioned flaws) it's purely because of the games. Make a Pro revision already nintendo, you've done it with all your other handhelds.
 
Uncharted games are a fucking chore to get through. The characters, set pieces, and graphics are amazing. But the actual gunplay is atrocious. Ignoring for a moment how these seemingly endless hordes of bad guys breaks immersion, the damage feedback for yourself and enemies is so clunky and awkward. Bad guys will ragdoll like paper mache and corkscrew all over the place, and that's only after you've emptied your magazine between it's shitty recoil and bad aiming control. Aiming acquisition fucking sucks in these games, and if you're not doing it right you end up staring at a gray screen waiting forever for the slow ass health regen to kick in. It's so unsatisfying and loose.

It gets even worse when the game asks you to babysit it's scripting moments, like when the Tank is chasing you in Uncharted 2. If you don't know exactly where to go (or when to wait) then have fun spending the next 5 minutes trial and erroring your way to satisfy the games script.

I consider myself pretty fucking good at games, I'm not gonna lie or be humble about it. I've beaten (if that's what you want to call it) two of these games on crushing in the past. But upon revisiting these games I finally just decided that the only time I'm actually enjoying these naughty dog games is when I'm doing it on Easy Mode. I never play games on easy (it's just a preference) but these games imo actively become better the easier you set them.
 
The greatest fuck up with Fallout 4 isn't the bugs or even when in bends lore.

The greatest fuck up with Fallout 4 is the ending choices. All four are cartoonishly winner takes all scenarios. Technically, that altruistic promise of a "Game as a Service" could have worked well if the endings of Fallout 4 main story implied one faction got the upper hand with the others failing for the moment. This could have continued quests and storylines in expansions of how does the "fallout" (punny) of the events played out.

And there could have been a 5th ending if the player wanted it all to burn.
 
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Here's a pretty mean-spirited accusation, so I apologize: a lot of modern gamers are too obsessed with cinematics and storyline. I really wish folks would Like What I Like™, ultimately, but I do wish people would challenge themselves with tougher games and really try to master a title every once in a while. Not many people like to push the game to its limits anymore, but that is how gaming was for me as a kid.

I love a great storyline when a game happens to have one, but there's something mythic-feeling when you conquer a game and push the toy to its upper bounds. No other medium is quite so... gratifying in that way. I wish more people would attempt to play games at a high difficulty level or to go for a speedrun or to attempt a high score or to master a fighting game, just so they could have a taste of that side of the gaming hobby.
 

cai24

Banned
-True invention and golden age of gaming ended with the 80's
-Dreamcast was the last great gaming console
-90's was the age of decline in gaming, generally full of ugly as sin 3D games that were miles behind 2D games in content and design
-00's brought the true decline in gaming, innovation died and everyone started to steal from each other
-Most of the AAA games are so out of touch with times, that it's embarrassing when their makers represent themselves as "artists", when their design-by-committee-and-lets-steal-the-rest "products" are presenting trends that used to be cool 10 years before their release
-Call of duty games are games for people who actually hate real games if they ever encountered one, and so are most of the mainstream AAA games
-Mobile games are rip off scams designed for mouth breathing morons and their makers are worse than travelling band of [stereotypical racist image trigger warning] gypsies who steal everything in sight
-All those Counterstrike players and other gaming "masters" who stream about their "superiority" are no more than school bullies who prey on the weak and would flee for mommy if they had to try to beat truly challenging shooting game like the Commando coin op from 1985
-Most of the game developers are arrogant blowhards who have no understanding of the culture they are recycling and ripping off while each and every one of their product becomes more and more devoid of any real thought or meaning. It helps them that their audiences are much worse
-Most of modern "gamers" are not much more than lab rats, running aimlessly after each superficial "reward" while being fooled into feeling that they have actually succeeded at their miserable lives
-Most of the bigger game studios are led by narcissists who stop at nothing to steal, backstab and exploit everything and everyone around them
-Most of the modern games are self-indulgent "press the win button" wanking fests that are feeding on the self-entitlement, narcissicm and laziness of the modern players who are toxic spoiler brats happy at nothing.
-If all modern gaming companies would wiped from the earth, along with the gaming PC's, game consoles and people who played them, and cell phones too, we might still have a pass at survival of this species. Otherwise I welcome the impending enviromental disaster
-Red Dead Redemption 2 is badly designed theme park aimed at people who are too dumb to figure out that they are being grossly manipulated by derivative game design and trivial one-button activity

Was that enough of unpopular opinions for you? Now let me get me coat..
 
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brian0057

Banned
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver is Amy Hennig's best game to date and the Uncharted trilogy is her and Naughty Dog's worst.
Also, Naughty Dog hasn't made a game worth a damn since Crash Team Racing.
 
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Larsowitz

Member
  • Blizzard makes bad games
  • Skyrim is the worst mainline Elder Scrolls game
  • Grand Theft Auto IV is the best game in the series
  • Batman Arkham Knight is the best Arkham game and probably the best superhero game ever made
  • Fallout 4 is the worst fallout game(not including 76 and Shelter)
  • Metal Gear Rising Revengeance is the best Metal Gear game

MGRR is the best Metal Gear game!!
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Here's a pretty mean-spirited accusation, so I apologize: a lot of modern gamers are too obsessed with cinematics and storyline. I really wish folks would Like What I Like™, ultimately, but I do wish people would challenge themselves with tougher games and really try to master a title every once in a while. Not many people like to push the game to its limits anymore, but that is how gaming was for me as a kid.

I love a great storyline when a game happens to have one, but there's something mythic-feeling when you conquer a game and push the toy to its upper bounds. No other medium is quite so... gratifying in that way. I wish more people would attempt to play games at a high difficulty level or to go for a speedrun or to attempt a high score or to master a fighting game, just so they could have a taste of that side of the gaming hobby.

The popularity of the types of games you mentioned, can be misleading.

Take Fortnite. It drowns out every single one of those games in popularity, and during my time with it, and in the community, I’ve been surrounded by zoom zooms, millennials, little kids, all striving to push their skills to the absolute limit, all mastering the almost never-ending amount of what’s possible, and loving every bit of it.

I don’t think the challenge and mastery side of gaming is dead. It just shifted a little bit, into online gaming. Hopefully, that’s heartening for you.
 

Larsowitz

Member
Gears of War 4 is the best Gears!

Halo 5’s blue team track is one of the best Halo tracks.



Ninja Gaiden 2 (x360/x1) is the best 3D action game!

The Evil Within is better than RE4.

Vanquish is the best game ever made ;)

...and TLOU is really really bad!!
 
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Clarissa

Banned
I know people hate console fanboysim but I think it's alright.

Have a friend who's a massive Nintendo fanboy. He makes his kids wear Nintendo pyjamas. Their t-shirts are all Mario or Zelda related. I don't know if they wear Mario underwear though I didn't ask.

His wallpapers on his mobile and desktop are Mario and Zelda respectively.

Talks about Nintendo multiple times a day. Hiss social media and our chat groups are flooded with Nintendo news by him.

He updates everyone how much the switch sells every week and how much a Nintendo exclusive sells. Also tells everyone when a game on the switch beats the Xbox and ps4 combined.

He calls up his friends to ask if they have bought a switch already when the console just launched. When a Nintendo game launches, he shows concern and asks if they have preordered the game on switch already.

He plays the switch on the bus standing up so eveyone can see him play the switch. On the train too. And he'll ask people around him to try.

His kids know every pokemon out there. He tests them. He talks about the history of Nintendo and how much money they are making all the time.

He used to hate open world games and mobile games. But now he loves them due to botw and Mario Run/fire emblem heroes and Dragalia Lost. Invested lots of money in them.

He's visited all the pokemon centres In the world and can't wait to go to Universal studios Super Nintendo World in Japan.

So yes. I think it's ok to be a fanboy. I think it's good to be so passionate about something in life.

And yes he visits the resetera Japan sales thread.

I'm just scratching the surface but typing on the mobile is exhausting lol.

As I'm typing this he's talking about pokemon sales. I'll screenshot and blur out the name before posting it.

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The popularity of the types of games you mentioned, can be misleading.

Take Fortnite. It drowns out every single one of those games in popularity, and during my time with it, and in the community, I’ve been surrounded by zoom zooms, millennials, little kids, all striving to push their skills to the absolute limit, all mastering the almost never-ending amount of what’s possible, and loving every bit of it.

I don’t think the challenge and mastery side of gaming is dead. It just shifted a little bit, into online gaming. Hopefully, that’s heartening for you.
It is but it isn't heartening. I like when people play competitive genres and taste that victory, but I wish people would do the same with sp titles and try to master games that don't have pvp competition. Ultimately, it's just a genie's wish/controversial opinion. I know people are gonna play what they're gonna play.
 
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Deleted member 740922

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I know people hate console fanboysim but I think it's alright.

Have a friend who's a massive Nintendo fanboy. He makes his kids wear Nintendo pyjamas. Their t-shirts are all Mario or Zelda related. I don't know if they wear Mario underwear though I didn't ask.

His wallpapers on his mobile and desktop are Mario and Zelda respectively.

Talks about Nintendo multiple times a day. Hiss social media and our chat groups are flooded with Nintendo news by him.

He updates everyone how much the switch sells every week and how much a Nintendo exclusive sells. Also tells everyone when a game on the switch beats the Xbox and ps4 combined.

He calls up his friends to ask if they have bought a switch already when the console just launched. When a Nintendo game launches, he shows concern and asks if they have preordered the game on switch already.

He plays the switch on the bus standing up so eveyone can see him play the switch. On the train too. And he'll ask people around him to try.

His kids know every pokemon out there. He tests them. He talks about the history of Nintendo and how much money they are making all the time.

He used to hate open world games and mobile games. But now he loves them due to botw and Mario Run/fire emblem heroes and Dragalia Lost. Invested lots of money in them.

He's visited all the pokemon centres In the world and can't wait to go to Universal studios Super Nintendo World in Japan.

So yes. I think it's ok to be a fanboy. I think it's good to be so passionate about something in life.


No offence, but is he a bit soft in the head?
 
* AAA games were a lot better in the 80ies and 90ies since they needed to be experimental and revolutionary to be the successes they were.
* modern AAA games are dudes walking around in 3rd person through endless void landscapes, fetching some McGuffin bullshit. It's always the same. And it bores me to death.
* Games need to get shorter and cheaper again. I'd rather spent 15 to 20 euros on a focused three to seven hour game than 70 on some eighty hours fetch quest open world shit show.
 

Hudo

Gold Member
I will probably get heavy flak for this but StarCraft is not a good (real-time) strategy game and I don't like it. It's much too focused on micro-management and the speed of specific actions (when to research and build what etc.). I would rather call it an "action tactics" game instead. In fact, I think that StarCraft would work better (if the scope of the micro-management should be kept the same as well as the importance of time-critical actions) if you'd remove base building, unit building and resource collection and just start with an assembled army and duke it out on the map (kinda like table-top Warhammer does it). Maybe you could collect resources on the map via exploration etc. done by your army and use it later in the meta-game to upgrade units/recruit new ones for the next battle, in the campaign. And in multiplayer, have the same amount of allocated resources for every player and let them assemble their armies from that.

WarCraft III suffers from the same "illness", maybe even more so than StarCraft because of the focus on the hero units. I do like WarCraft III, though. But mainly because of its campaign. Interestingly enough, the most fun missions for me were those where you had a small, fixed army and your hero and no base building etc. WarCraft 1 and 2 are more direct clones of Dune and Command & Conquer and the general pace is a bit slower so they don't suffer as much.

But overall, I think that the Age of Empires games and the C&C games do a substantially better job at being RTS games than StarCraft. They strike the right balance between micro-management and macro-management. Being not too slow but not too fast so badly timed actions can be corrected. Units themselves are not too complex but interesting enough to play with.
I actually see Rise of Nations as a bit of an evolutionary step to the Age-formula because it tried even more to go into the macro-management direction than other RTS games without completely sacrificing what an RTS is. But I can accept if people disagree with me on this one.
 
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