Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I have large hands so they're perfect for me. I love how weighty they feel. They especially feel good when you're playing FPS or TPS.
The d-pad though....
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The d-pad though....
petran79
Banned
Now I can only discern Nintendo and PC as different gaming platforms . Different demographics,different libraries, different ads can be seen from far away .
With Sony officially ceasing Vita support, PS5 and XB ended up becoming identical. Whatever arguments arise will be two sides of the same coin.
With Sony officially ceasing Vita support, PS5 and XB ended up becoming identical. Whatever arguments arise will be two sides of the same coin.
The Pleasure
Gold Member
Sierra was better then LucasArts at adventure games. Their highs didn't hit as high, but they had a lot more of em.
me0wish
Member
Here's my take:
NES: NES games aged almost perfectly, the more I grow up, the more I appreciate the simplicity and well executed level design of NES games.
SNES: The most overrated Nintendo System, I passionately love it though.
N64: The worst Nintendo system, with one of the coolest controllers, and games that aged like ass. People love N64 FPS/wrestling games, I thought and still do think they're garbage. I have fond memories playing multiplayer games on the N64, even though I don't think much of those games.
GC: I was a hardcore Nintendo fanboy when the N64 came out, I have wonderful memories of being in high school, discussing Custom Robo builds in school breaks, and having friends coming over in the weekend to play together till midnight. It's almost painful for me to say that the PS2 was a better system, and Nintendo messed up big time with it.
Wii: Best Nintendo system hands down, and what I was hoping the switch to become, and what I'd personally call "Nintendo's PS2". Filled with experimental games and hidden gems, I still discover Wii games that I've never heard about. I also love the Nunchuck + Wiimote setup, it's one of my favorite control setups.
Wii U: The most ambitious Nintendo system, and I love everything about it. It had awesome online features, it had amazing first party output and it had the best pro controller with the best stick layout, that I hope will somehow become standard. I will never forget when we were watching the reveal of the Wii U and everyone in the room thought it was an addon for the Wii, what a marketing disaster.
My favorite multiplayer system, this is why I'll never disconnect it from the TV.
Switch: An overpriced, worse Wii U, marketed right. I love my Switch, but it has been disappointing, especially considering how bad the last two years were, it wouldn't be successful if not for the Wii U ports. By the time we get proper exclusives again, the system will be so out dated, that I hope that botw/odyssey 2 will run at 720p.
Bonus: This gen is the worst gen, terrible monetization schemes becoming standard, everyone sticking to that one terrible online multiplayer game trying to be competitive and constantly being salty, every game being politicized trying to be cinematic and mature, all this while we forget what truly matters, fun.
NES: NES games aged almost perfectly, the more I grow up, the more I appreciate the simplicity and well executed level design of NES games.
SNES: The most overrated Nintendo System, I passionately love it though.
N64: The worst Nintendo system, with one of the coolest controllers, and games that aged like ass. People love N64 FPS/wrestling games, I thought and still do think they're garbage. I have fond memories playing multiplayer games on the N64, even though I don't think much of those games.
GC: I was a hardcore Nintendo fanboy when the N64 came out, I have wonderful memories of being in high school, discussing Custom Robo builds in school breaks, and having friends coming over in the weekend to play together till midnight. It's almost painful for me to say that the PS2 was a better system, and Nintendo messed up big time with it.
Wii: Best Nintendo system hands down, and what I was hoping the switch to become, and what I'd personally call "Nintendo's PS2". Filled with experimental games and hidden gems, I still discover Wii games that I've never heard about. I also love the Nunchuck + Wiimote setup, it's one of my favorite control setups.
Wii U: The most ambitious Nintendo system, and I love everything about it. It had awesome online features, it had amazing first party output and it had the best pro controller with the best stick layout, that I hope will somehow become standard. I will never forget when we were watching the reveal of the Wii U and everyone in the room thought it was an addon for the Wii, what a marketing disaster.
My favorite multiplayer system, this is why I'll never disconnect it from the TV.
Switch: An overpriced, worse Wii U, marketed right. I love my Switch, but it has been disappointing, especially considering how bad the last two years were, it wouldn't be successful if not for the Wii U ports. By the time we get proper exclusives again, the system will be so out dated, that I hope that botw/odyssey 2 will run at 720p.
Bonus: This gen is the worst gen, terrible monetization schemes becoming standard, everyone sticking to that one terrible online multiplayer game trying to be competitive and constantly being salty, every game being politicized trying to be cinematic and mature, all this while we forget what truly matters, fun.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Just slight OT, if I am not mistaken Aston Martin Vulkan is most powerful atmospheric (or N/A) car?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
This again.
Hands down this gen is the worst. I never hoped for a second video game crash until this gen.
It started off sour with all the talk of Xbox requiring a constant Internet connection until they gave in to people rightfully screaming about it.
It all went further downhill with all growth in woke culture and necessary patch downloading.
Imagine how much worse all this will the upcoming gen.
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mcz117chief
Member
You can't be serious, mate.
art = the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
Under this definition you can EASILY fit a TON of games. If you just use the more basic "the various branches of creative activity, such as painting, music, literature, and dance" then this includes all of the games. So tell me, how do you define "art"?
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Although there were plenty of cars to go faster than the DB5, the current victor for the highest top speed with no forced induction is (and probably forever will be) the McLaren F1. Developed by Gordon Murray and BMW (and of course, McLaren, specifically Ron Dennis, if I’m a little off, please don’t shout at me in the comments, I’m not entirely good with this.) Using a BMW-sourced 6.1L V12, the F1 made 618 HP and 480 LB-FT. All that power was sent through a six speed manual transaxle going to the rear wheels. Hitting a top speed of 231 and 240 mph (386km/h) with and without the limiter, the F1 will most likely forever be the world’s fastest naturally aspirated production car, despite being a quarter of a century old.
4 Fastest Naturally Aspirated Production Cars Ever Made
Quick noteBefore I begin, I’ve created a poll for what my next list should be, go and vote on it, voting ends on the 24th of November. Here is the link.
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regawdless
Banned
The Nintendo Switch is a bad portable console and Mario Odyssey is a bad game.
End of last year, I decided to buy a Switch (new revision). After the N64 being my last Nintendo console, it was about time. Loved the N64 btw. I was hyped for the Switch, to rediscover the magic of Mario, Zelda and other first party games. I wanted a device to take it with me in business trips etc.
What can I say, sold it after two days of ownership. The console feels like cheap shit, especially compared to the Vita. UI, store and general user experience feel... antiquated.
But who cares, let the games speak. Bought Mario Odyssey and didn't like it at all. With those fucking little sticks and buttons, controlling it was a pain. I felt like the camera was wrong all the time and controlling it felt kinda broken. I was surprised by the absolute jaggy-fest that this game is. Gameplay itself was.... Boring.
I was seriously disappointed.
End of last year, I decided to buy a Switch (new revision). After the N64 being my last Nintendo console, it was about time. Loved the N64 btw. I was hyped for the Switch, to rediscover the magic of Mario, Zelda and other first party games. I wanted a device to take it with me in business trips etc.
What can I say, sold it after two days of ownership. The console feels like cheap shit, especially compared to the Vita. UI, store and general user experience feel... antiquated.
But who cares, let the games speak. Bought Mario Odyssey and didn't like it at all. With those fucking little sticks and buttons, controlling it was a pain. I felt like the camera was wrong all the time and controlling it felt kinda broken. I was surprised by the absolute jaggy-fest that this game is. Gameplay itself was.... Boring.
I was seriously disappointed.
brian0057
Banned
You know what I'm not seeing in that definition? Entertainment. Which is the main point of videogames.
A blank movie can be art. Silence can be art. A blank canvas can be art.
A blank videogame cannot be art. Hell, what even constitutes a "blank" videogame.
Videogames are toys that use art in order to entertain but they are not art in and of themselves. It's like saying sports are art. At that point the term is meaningless since apparently anything can be art.
Games that are more concerned with using the medium to convey a message or to tell a story are better served as movies, TV shows, or books. The gameplay always gets in the way and it often contradicts the intention of the creators.
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Nintendo is not nearly as good of a developer as they get credit for. They've mostly been releasing the same basic games since the Wii era with little change or innovation. Basically they're doing the exact same thing as Ubisoft/EA/etc., but on a much longer timeline and with fewer releases.
Breath of the Wild doesn't feel like a complete game in the slightest. It's a tech demo for the physics stuff and that's about it. Pretty much every other 3D Zelda is an overall better game.
Smash Bros is a children's game, not a competitive fighter.
The two major PS4 titles released by Sony this year, GOT and TLOU2, are better than absolutely anything that Microsoft has produced in the last decade.
AMD has spent the last half-decade releasing disappointing GPUs with shit drivers. I don't see why I should suddenly care about their next product when they haven't proven that they have an even basic level of competence in the space.
Tomb Raider 2013 is better than every Uncharted game.
Uncharted Lost Legacy is the best Uncharted game and it's not even close.
Whining about a game being released exclusively on the Epic Games store is cringe.
Linux gaming is a joke. Oh, you mean I get to play my games in an OS that has worse hardware compatibility and a lot of my games either won't run or run worse? SIGN ME UP.
Microsoft spent money/time on OGXbox/360 BC on the Xbone because they have a shit game lineup.
Breath of the Wild doesn't feel like a complete game in the slightest. It's a tech demo for the physics stuff and that's about it. Pretty much every other 3D Zelda is an overall better game.
Smash Bros is a children's game, not a competitive fighter.
The two major PS4 titles released by Sony this year, GOT and TLOU2, are better than absolutely anything that Microsoft has produced in the last decade.
AMD has spent the last half-decade releasing disappointing GPUs with shit drivers. I don't see why I should suddenly care about their next product when they haven't proven that they have an even basic level of competence in the space.
Tomb Raider 2013 is better than every Uncharted game.
Uncharted Lost Legacy is the best Uncharted game and it's not even close.
Whining about a game being released exclusively on the Epic Games store is cringe.
Linux gaming is a joke. Oh, you mean I get to play my games in an OS that has worse hardware compatibility and a lot of my games either won't run or run worse? SIGN ME UP.
Microsoft spent money/time on OGXbox/360 BC on the Xbone because they have a shit game lineup.
Miles708
Member
Videogames are, at the most basic level, interaction and movement.
There can be beauty in that.
brian0057
Banned
My problem is that people use "art" too loosely. It should be an exclusive term, reserved for works of such magnificence that merely talking about them invites reverance.
Videogames have the added problem of interactivity. It needs to be fun above all else and you can't tell a compelling story or deliver meaningful message when the player doesn't give a single fuck about it and they're too busy engaging with the mechanics.
If just interaction and movement can be art then literally anything can be art. And if anything can be art then nothing is.
The best videogames ever made use the full power of the medium instead of just being movies with button prompts. Hades, Breath of thr Wild, Thief, and Silent Hill are the closest thing the medium will attain something resembling artistic merit. And even then, I don't cosider them art.
regawdless
Banned
No lies detected.
mcz117chief
Member
The main point of music and movies is also entertainment
No, that is not art, that is either a way to troll idiots or launder money.
Like Shadow of the Colossus
Go and tell all the artists working on that game (musicians, painters, actors etc.) that they aren't actually making art.
Biggest SMH of all times!
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Miles708
Member
I somewhat agree.
A dance ballet is (mostly) entertainment, but still can be art. The beauty lies in the technical achievement of the dancer. Even a beautiful painting can be considered entertainment.
Same with games. They can be sports, they can be a dance, they can be a painting.
They can also be, yes, pretentious bullshit. That doesn't detract from the nicer ones, I think.
The Last Guardian, ICO, Shenmue etc. are experiences achievable only via interaction and movement.
We enjoy and sometimes marvel at the techincal achievement (which is also, but not only, the graphics) while being entertained by it.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Hmm sorry, I went to it through Avro Vulkan plane and someone posted the info about AM Vulkan, so yeah. So I guess the aviation world, with car world hasn't met this time : )
Although there were plenty of cars to go faster than the DB5, the current victor for the highest top speed with no forced induction is (and probably forever will be) the McLaren F1. Developed by Gordon Murray and BMW (and of course, McLaren, specifically Ron Dennis, if I’m a little off, please don’t shout at me in the comments, I’m not entirely good with this.) Using a BMW-sourced 6.1L V12, the F1 made 618 HP and 480 LB-FT. All that power was sent through a six speed manual transaxle going to the rear wheels. Hitting a top speed of 231 and 240 mph (386km/h) with and without the limiter, the F1 will most likely forever be the world’s fastest naturally aspirated production car, despite being a quarter of a century old.
4 Fastest Naturally Aspirated Production Cars Ever Made
Quick noteBefore I begin, I’ve created a poll for what my next list should be, go and vote on it, voting ends on the 24th of November. Here is the link.
Paasei
Member
Ubisoft franchises AC and Watch Dogs don't deserve all the hate. They are fun games.
GTA/RDR are only impressive on a technical level, gameplay is quite bad/boring and R* is still too lazy to make it fun or up-to-date(especially with a controller).
BotW isn't really a good game.
Sports games are boring.
Steam, like every other launcher, is just as much bloatware as people claim others are. It's just lucky that it came first.
All CoD games that released AFTER CoD4 are shit with the only exception being the current MW.
MOBA games should be wiped from existence.
GTA/RDR are only impressive on a technical level, gameplay is quite bad/boring and R* is still too lazy to make it fun or up-to-date(especially with a controller).
BotW isn't really a good game.
Sports games are boring.
Steam, like every other launcher, is just as much bloatware as people claim others are. It's just lucky that it came first.
All CoD games that released AFTER CoD4 are shit with the only exception being the current MW.
MOBA games should be wiped from existence.
royox
Member
There are games and games. The common COD or FIFA game are not art...but come on there are masterpieces like this one that are the definition of ART
ButchCat
Member
While I don't necessarily agree, I do think there is a sense of desperation in the gaming industry to push the medium as an equal to other forms of art e.g TLoU: II, by trying to emulate these formats as opposed trying to play to the medium's strengths.
Kokoloko85
Member
Ill say it again.
Resident Evil 4 is an awful Resident Evil game that ruined the franchise for years. Fuck button bashing, Melee, QTE’s, no Puzzles, no keys, waves of enemies, enemies using machine guns and no metroidvania level structure. And escort missioning Ashley....
Half Life 2 is overrated ( Even though I like it )
Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are the worst 3d Mario games
Resident Evil 4 is an awful Resident Evil game that ruined the franchise for years. Fuck button bashing, Melee, QTE’s, no Puzzles, no keys, waves of enemies, enemies using machine guns and no metroidvania level structure. And escort missioning Ashley....
Half Life 2 is overrated ( Even though I like it )
Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are the worst 3d Mario games
Fuz
Banned
Which one is the best, in your opinion?
Dibils2k
Member
was there an extended cut of the sex scene we didnt see?
Tschumi
Member
hey mate
i've just played about 6 hours of it today.
drumroll...
great game! i think that i can understand why people who actually liked the Mass Effect series would have been disappointed to see their favorite characters evaporate into nothingness, but I only really played Mass Effect to complete it, and to enjoy the visual design/music as you mentioned. As such, for me, it's probably a good thing that this was a fresh start - I never really liked Shepherd (I only played the dude), thought he was too much like Jack from LOST lol.. And yeah, after 3 games I don't think that universe had much more to tell!
It's hard not to have a few negative thoughts because of all the bad press the game got - nothing really major, and really nothing worse than what the original series offered up. The return of the Mako ('Nomad') is pretty cool
The face of the female lead (I did go for the female in this game, if only because of the memes of her smiling) does seem a bit awkward... her default expression seems to be a, sorta, drunken leer... and it looks like they padded her panties to give her a bubble butt... but i'm enjoying playing as her. I think the jump pack jump mechanic and the verticality of the levels is pretty cool. The scanner is a nice touch - reminds me of Metroid Prime - but I do wish it had a bit more flavour text and a few more objects to scan - indeed, I wish it were the scanner from Metroid Prime, straight up
At the moment I've got into a firefight with the, like, 12 robotic defenders of a remnant pylon and it's a sudden skillcheck wall which forced me to quit for the night. Looking forward to exploring the universe more next time!
*inhaaaaale*
i hate the PS2! because i bought one here for like a few thousand yen and was super excited to play the great games for like $2.50c each, but then learned that - typically for japan - all the games I bought for it which had multiple language options when I lived in Europe as a kid were what have become familiar, pseudo-racist, Japanese only nationalist versions! So I ordered a free mcboot from overseas and, after having nothing to play but japanese games which i couldn't understand while waiting a month for it to arrive, i couldn't get the fucking thing to work for another month after. Then i went on PS2 home, the website where freemcboot etc seems to have originated from, and they refused to post any of my posts asking for help because of the most annoying posting rule technicalities.. I fucking hate PS2 now!
Too late to do anything about it though, I sold it to a second hand shop and used the credit to buy a PS3... which I'm loving. HD and wifi are such amazing upgrades from trying to turn component cables into fuckin' HD and crap for a modern tv... And it's got MGS 2 + 3 in HD, as well as Ico, Shadow of the Colossus and the God of War games, so I'm generally covered for most of the reasons I got a PS2 in the first place. (Not really, lacking decent FF titles, but i've got 12 The Zodiac Age on my PC ,and I've got Persona 4 golden on my Vita) It's also got some great PS4 titles which, I believe, were released for both consoles, like MGS5, GTA5 and Persona 5 (whoa just noticed they're all 5)
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Kssio_Aug
Member
God of War (PS4) is overrated.
Graphics and gameplay are pretty good however...
The side content is WAY too repetitive (9 valkyries, and a number of recycled mini bosses from a small variety of enemies).
Compared to any of the predecessor games, the main story has too little epic boss fights. It totally felt to me as it ended lacking something...
Anyway, a good game nonetheless, but not as good as I expected.
And a second unpopular opinion: Ratchet and Clank was one of my favorite games this gen, and probably my favorite PS4 exclusive. Had tons of fun with it.
Graphics and gameplay are pretty good however...
The side content is WAY too repetitive (9 valkyries, and a number of recycled mini bosses from a small variety of enemies).
Compared to any of the predecessor games, the main story has too little epic boss fights. It totally felt to me as it ended lacking something...
Anyway, a good game nonetheless, but not as good as I expected.
And a second unpopular opinion: Ratchet and Clank was one of my favorite games this gen, and probably my favorite PS4 exclusive. Had tons of fun with it.
Possibly, but that would be reserved for Druckman’s own personal occasions.
Ascend
Member
In light of this... Here's mine;
Games include writing, music, screenplay, voice acting, motion capture, animation and more... More importantly, the package is not static, but changes in real time, is interactive, and the experience and output can vary depending on who is interacting with the piece. It is the only medium that does that.
And even more impressive, they are being created with cutting edge technology (although they don't have to be), which is a culmination of scientific research, engineering, computing and mathematics, among other things...
The conclusion is quite evident;
Games are the ultimate form of art, because it is a culmination of not only pretty much all the other arts, but is also constantly at the limits of what technology can provide.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
hey mate
i've just played about 6 hours of it today.
drumroll...
great game! i think that i can understand why people who actually liked the Mass Effect series would have been disappointed to see their favorite characters evaporate into nothingness, but I only really played Mass Effect to complete it, and to enjoy the visual design/music as you mentioned. As such, for me, it's probably a good thing that this was a fresh start - I never really liked Shepherd (I only played the dude), thought he was too much like Jack from LOST lol.. And yeah, after 3 games I don't think that universe had much more to tell!
It's hard not to have a few negative thoughts because of all the bad press the game got - nothing really major, and really nothing worse than what the original series offered up. The return of the Mako ('Nomad') is pretty cool
The face of the female lead (I did go for the female in this game, if only because of the memes of her smiling) does seem a bit awkward... her default expression seems to be a, sorta, drunken leer... and it looks like they padded her panties to give her a bubble butt... but i'm enjoying playing as her. I think the jump pack jump mechanic and the verticality of the levels is pretty cool. The scanner is a nice touch - reminds me of Metroid Prime - but I do wish it had a bit more flavour text and a few more objects to scan - indeed, I wish it were the scanner from Metroid Prime, straight up
At the moment I've got into a firefight with the, like, 12 robotic defenders of a remnant pylon and it's a sudden skillcheck wall which forced me to quit for the night. Looking forward to exploring the universe more next time!
I played as the male, and play it on hard to get the best out of it! The more you play, the better, trust me. Liked the builds and the skill tree and all the perks you get are so much fun!
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The Xbox One (og design their current console). Is the worst big budget console of all time. Poor design. Poor technology when compared to the masterpiece that was the 360. And of course the piss poor library. Gears has become boring. Forza is stale. Fable is dead. Halo is nothing without Bungie.
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MetalAlien
Banned
I enjoy single player way more with cheats enabled.
Tschumi
Member
Playing on hard ^_^v okay I'll take your word for it!
Tschumi
Member
Nice entry into the controversial thread
i think you're right, xBox had an ass library (i just say, conker live and reloaded had killer multiplayer).. and it wasn't a true competitor to the other consoles since it came out so much later.. but i think it did bring some things to the console universe that changed it all for the better. So yeah, that's why your opinion is a great entry for the thread~ imo~Ps. When xbox was in it's heyday i never had one, i had a GameCube and only played xBox with friends.. but i moved to Beijing in 2004 and a friend and i both got a super cheap chipped xbox each and bought up a ton of $2 fake games.. many of them didn't work but through that i discovered some gems.. Spartan Total Warrior, Black, Mercenaries Playground of Destruction, Deus Ex Invisible War.. Kotor shouldn't be forgotten.. this is an aside though, just my personal experience~
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I was actually referring to the og design of the Xbox One. Their current disaster. I've updated my post to make it more clear. The Xbox was pretty decent for a first stab. A pimple on the ass of PS2 but a decent first effort. I don't even think it will be remembered as fondly as the Gamecube.Nice entry into the controversial thread
Ps. When xbox was in it's heyday i never had one, i had a GameCube and only played xBox with friends.. but i moved to Beijing in 2004 and a friend and i both got a super cheap chipped xbox each and bought up a ton of $2 fake games.. many of them didn't work but through that i discovered some gems.. Spartan Total Warrior, Black, Mercenaries Playground of Destruction, Deus Ex Invisible War.. Kotor shouldn't be forgotten.. this is an aside though, just my personal experience~
Jack Videogames
Member
I'm tired of every game releasing everywhere. Bring back exclusivities!
brian0057
Banned
They can be entertaining but their main appeal is what they evoke. Music was used for storytelling long before the written word was invented. Movies are a derived from paintings, so of course they're art.
Opinion. Not an argument.
Opinion. Not an argument.
Still not art.
Artists doing artistic work for a product that as a whole isn't art.
Take all that away and all you have is the mechanics, making it no different than sports. Unless you consider sports "art", in which case, the term is meaningless since apparently anything can be art.
Here's a query: Is D&D art?
Not the lore, not the story told at the table, nor the characters or their backgrounds, nor the artwork on the books. I'm talking exclusivelly about the mechanical aspects of the game. If that is considered art, the what's the point of the term?
Tschumi
Member
I sure did love my GameCube.. a few highlights ssx3, true crime streets of la, medal of honour frontline (less popular but actually, to me, more interesting then MOHAA), need for speed hot pursuit 2, the usual suspects zelda, Metroid Prime.. rogue squadron.. gladius (a personal obsession).. Twin Snakes.. Colossus of a console.
Gamerguy84
Member
Same. I own it, I tried to like it but it just didn't click with me. I also couldn't stand GTA 4 or 5, or Red Dead Redemption.
Not every highly rated game is for everyone.
Nehezir
Banned
Dissolve the console market. Shame exclusives until it's a PR nightmare to practice them.
Stores should compete through their UI's and ability to provide deals to the consumer, not on what titles they have under their umbrella.
Hardware-wise, SteamBox-style prebuilt machines would still be a viable equivalent to consoles that are easy to set up. but all machines should be connecting to the same stores.
Also, Megaman X was more fun than sonic.
Stores should compete through their UI's and ability to provide deals to the consumer, not on what titles they have under their umbrella.
Hardware-wise, SteamBox-style prebuilt machines would still be a viable equivalent to consoles that are easy to set up. but all machines should be connecting to the same stores.
Also, Megaman X was more fun than sonic.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Seems like the biggest drawing point of these new systems (especially the series x) is the ability to play old games.
mcz117chief
Member
Empty canvas is not art, that is a product you can buy in a store. And Shadow of the Colossus was made to evoke emotions in players and make him invested in the world and characters, gameplay very obviously came last.
But to your question. Making such a well working mechanism like D&D is art to me, much like painting or constructing clock.
This is called art nouveau. Do you know what it was used for primarily? Commercials and promotions.
That is why you have applied art, fine art and such to distinguish between them but they are all ART.
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Miles708
Member
I do not agree with that honestly. I almost see the ps4 as a light version of the dreamcast.
Other than Gravity Rush, there's The Last Guardian, No Man's Sky, Detroit, Valkyria Chronicles, Sakura Wars, Devil May Cry 5, Zanki Zero... a lot of different and unique games with their own quirks. And on the 30th MAD RAT DEAD it's out!
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me0wish
Member
I can't, and even if I could, I wont, I love gaming with a passion, and this will kill any passion I have for my hobby. I've prepared my self for the gaming apocalypse by making a huge list of previous gen games that seem interesting, and filled my PC with them, my recent big surprise was a game called Rule of Rose, this game scratched the survivor horror itch for me pretty good. Slightly off-topic, but I lost some of my closest friends due to how toxic they've become, having literally no interest besides playing that single game and gate keeping it from others, tearing the group apart.
Seeing you have a Prinny as your pfp, allow me to suggest you trying Mad Rat Dead demo on PS4/Switch, I even made a thread about it, I truly appreciate that game because I'm sure NIS knows it won't sell much, but they greenlit it anyway, it feels like something straight out of 6th gen.
I really appreciate your response, it's always nice to see someone who loves games.
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