Remember the higher gpu prices are, the bigger margin for no discounts of current consoles and higher prices(like for example making money from the get go on them like ps5pr0/xbox series x 2tb) of future consoles from platform holders are
yea i know im just jkRemember the higher gpu prices are, the bigger margin for no discounts of current consoles and higher prices(like for example making money from the get go on them like ps5pr0/xbox series x 2tb) of future consoles from platform holders are
Ppl will claim those are different markets, but they are connected in more ways than one xD
I fully expect 999€ launch price ps6 holidays 2028 for example for the very simple reason sony wont have any need to go lower xD
yes and noRemember the higher gpu prices are, the bigger margin for no discounts of current consoles and higher prices(like for example making money from the get go on them like ps5pr0/xbox series x 2tb) of future consoles from platform holders are
Ppl will claim those are different markets, but they are connected in more ways than one xD
I fully expect 999€ launch price ps6 holidays 2028 for example for the very simple reason sony wont have any need to go lower xD
My problem is, once I play a game for a while, I am pretty much done with it. Even multiplayer games I get sick of after some time. The longest I played a multiplayer game was WoW and I quit that in 2008-9 (WOTLK) before the next expansion. I can't believe people still play that today. I want new stuff.
What kind of game do you want the most?
Luckily my 4090 PC was still in the 2 year warranty window from Best Buy and since this exact PC was no longer being offered Best Buy gives you a choice of another PC or a gift card.
With the latest DLSS 3.8.2 + reshade sharpening (you need sharpening regardless of DLSS scaling factor if you want to get sharp image, because even DLAA blurs image) I get equally sharp image in both DLSS Q and P. There's only subtle noise difference around hair and grass, but that's small difference to me, so I'm already very happy even with DLSS Performance (even DLSSP offers far better image quality compared to consoles).
DLSS Quality
DLSS Performance
I also see no problems running 1440p with black borders on a 4K display. Hell, I can even run 720p + CRT mask on a 4K screen and still be happy with the image quality (I'm playing 480p / 480i games on PS2 / xbox / gamecube), becasue phosphor mask tricks my eyes and mind into believing the image is far more detailed than in reality.
People who are not willing to compromise might be tempted to upgrade their PCs more frequently, but for me it will be years before I want to upgrade. I used my old (2016) GTX1080 until recently (I also had a 1080ti for three years, but I sold it during the mining craze for a very good price). TLOU remake was the first game that I couldnt run with at least console like settings at 1440p 60fps. Becasue nvidia hit the wall with node shrinks current high end GPUs might last even longer.
I always disable any ingame sharpening and use reshade. Installing Reshade is a very simple process, but the key is to use the right sharpening filters in the right amounts, because you dont want excessive sharpening (ringing and noise look as bad as blurry image).
. I also use reshade with emulators, or older PC games, because reshade have awesome CRT shaders and these make a huge difference for 240p / 480p and even 720p content.
Buying a high end computer doesn’t require being anywhere close to rich lol.
Way to completely misinterpret my comment, and really badly at that
Maybe I am out of touch but does someone really have to be somewhat "rich" to save up $1000 for a hobby purchase?
High end PC is not $1000, it is $2000-3000. In USD, mind you. Not necessarily someone's local currency.
By your definition of rich and poor I´d probably be on Elon Musk level and
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would be God himself.....The 4090 by itself is $2000.By your definition of rich and poor I´d probably be on Elon Musk level and
But seriously...no, not in the western world. 1-2k are nothing here.
And? It`s a luxury item. It´s the highest end you can go in the GPU space, so what is the issue?
If someone is making that kind of money before expenses they should not be buying any sort of higher end gaming PC
Clearly missed the point.
you never had one with your tales from gallopping poverty in a thread about high end GPUs....
Thanks for showing me your true colours.
Don’t buy it then? $1500 nets you a PC more then twice as powerful as the consoles. If you can’t afford or don’t want to spend more then simply don’t? 4090 is only ~1% of Steam players. Heck even $1000 nets you a PC more powerful than the PS5 Pro.
I didn't buy it. I bought an RTX 4080. Still, even then, such a PC costs $2000+ USD. Most people cannot afford to splurge on such a thing. There is a world outside of the likes of USA and Australia.
Clearly missed the point.
Also, I doubt $1500 gets a PC over 2x the performance of the consoles. That may have been true before PS5 Pro. Not anymore.
What is your source? One needs to re-evaluate their life if they cannot have even $1000 in savings - cut back all unnecessary spending and maximise savings.
could we not get into 3rd world finance discussions in a thread about high end GPUs?
Many people in Malaysia don't even earn $500 a month, let alone $1000. Many people in Europe are the same. I don't need to dig up sources for this, it's obvious. Also, many people live in poverty. Over a billion people. Even over 2 billion. This is common knowledge.
I was referring to the base consoles. A PC with a 4070 Ti Super. But compared to the Pro it’s about 50% faster, more in RT.
And you had to use dirt slow RAM (cl22), a 1TB SSD with absolutely junk sequential read/write speeds of 500mb/s whilst PS5 Pro has 2tb at 5.5gb/s plus custom I/O.
2TB PCIe 4 SSD, actually good RAM you'd want to use?
16gb's of ram in 2024/25
and a 600 watt PSU ain't cutting it.
yeah that's insane...16gb's of ram in 2024/25
I'm afraid to even read the rest.
29 total messages since he's joined NeoGaf and probably half of them in this thread complaining about prices.
If that's what you want to believe.
Probably a more balanced build for slightly more:
How did we get from you calling me rich enough to buy a hold over PC to wanting people caring what someone in Malaysia makes in a month?
Perhaps. Until you try to price the same system in Brazil, Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand or Germany and you'll find it's a rather different story. And, what was it, over a third of Americans don't have $400 in disposable savings?
Ok? PC and console gaming have always been more expensive in those countries. It’s not a recent change.
It makes no sense to build such an unbalanced PC.
I think its because its impacting the prices for everybody, when it comes to Cars its different because there is no monopoly.
