yansolo
Member
lol sorry man im not in the loop like you are, I know theyre good cards, what i meant is are they as future proof as a 4080, i shouldve clarified
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wafflecioccy
Neo Member
It was just a kinda joking comment.
Though, for sure, an RTX 4080/7900xtx are still great graphics cards. And you won't need to upgrade either of them until the 2030s unless games suddenly become fully path traced or they start going crazy with physics (where are the physics in games?).
I think we're reached the limits. To create a huge game, properly optimized, that runs at 30fps on a 4080/4090 costs over a hundred million dollars USD and I don't think that's the direction game dev should be going.
I miss the days when things weren't about trying to render huge worlds with hundreds of NPCs and 50 million polygons in the scene with the most realistic lighting.
Ray tracing is here to stay. Devs don't want to waste 1000s of hours baking lighting data on static environments. But there's more to a good game than pretty lighting. Hellblade 2 barely passes as a game.
As for the actual topic at hand, RTX 5080 and 5090 will likely be overpriced. But, if possible, I'd like to sell my RTX 4080 and get an RTX 5080, just because.
TheRedRiders
Member
A randome 4Chan post? we can do better with all due respect
yansolo
Member
i know friend im just messing, im still sitting here with a 2070, only recently I started to have to lower settings (cyberpunk, elden ring, some rtx games gave me trouble). You are right about games not being all about lighting, im a bit older now and I don't really care much about 4k, ultra settings, full rtx etc, 1080p still looks good to me. But it would still be nice to play games at their full potential, A 4080s costs $1650 here, 300 or so more than a 4070ti-super, a lot of money in the current climate. I can only imagine how much the newer cards will cost, hopefully theyll be some discounts next year, because over the Christmas period there were none surprisingly.
Draugoth
Gold Member
A card for that price would flop, even if they had a monopoly on the market
Mister Wolf
Member
Better grab a used 4090.
Pharaoh 117
Member
I think a large chunk of people who bought the 4090 would buy the 5090 at that price. It won't be that expensive, well, at least not the MSRP.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
AGRacing
Member
Hey.. ps5 pro has MORE than 16gb of RAM in it! It’s a bargain now!
bender
What time is it?
Führer-President Banjo
Neo Member
My son is gonna be mad af when I sell his kidneys to afford the 5090. Tough luck kid, blame nvidia 
Celcius
°Temp. member
Why do we get all these reports with "leaked" prices every year when literally know one knows the price except Jensen and he decides the final price RIGHT before the presentation? Not even the board partners know the price at this point.
edit: I guess sites do it for the clicks, but still...
edit: I guess sites do it for the clicks, but still...
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ozz ex machina
Member
Is that actually true he decides just before without the board knowing?
wafflecioccy
Neo Member
Yes, especially if AMD is trying to compete in the same performance tier.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Double
Justin9mm
Member
And that's why it is expensive, because they know they can.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Yup. 5090 will certainly sell very well.
5080? You'd have to be an idiot to buy this card for 4 figures especially with 16GB RAM.
GymWolf
Member
Lol yeah i'm sure devs are gonna start developing games with a 5090in mind instead of a shitty console as base version anytime soon...
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Just in time for a Star Citizen/Squadron 42 bundle...
I'll see myself out.
I'll see myself out.
TheTony316
Member
Yeah, i think'll just get a 7800XT for 490€ and call it a day.
ThisIsMyDog
Member
is it dumb to expect that 5070Ti is gonna cost the same as 4070Ti Super today?
Schmendrick
Member
doubtful at least.
TSMC will raise their wafer prices another 10% next year and NVIDIA is probably not gonna just gracefully accept a lower margin on any of their products.
Actually, let`s be real. NVIDIA would have raised the prices regardless of that, simply because they have no competition anymore and people still buy everything that gets produced.
PeteBull
Member
If 5090 is 20-30% faster from current BiS 4090 then it will fly off the shelves even at street price of 3k usd/euro.
5080 is definitelly much harder sell here simply coz 2nd hand 4090 existing.
Unless ngreedia artifically nerfs 4090 performance( simply lower quality of drivers in future games for 40xx series of cards, in particular 4090) 5080 with its 16gigs of vram and only 50% of cuda cores vs 5090, half of its memory bus width too(256-bit 5080 vs 512-bit 5090 vs 384-bit 4090) is fricken DOA at that street price xD
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I think if its a decent power bump over the 4090 even if the 5090 was priced at $3000 US there are plenty of people out there willing to buy it
Draugoth
Gold Member
Yes, people would buy it, but not that many people.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I think even if its an artificial shortage manufactured by NVidia all we would hear is about how they are sold out everywhere trying to create FOMO on their part
chromatic9
Member
Has anyone seen comparisons of sales or Steam owner data of the say GTX 1070 1080 and 1080ti compared to say the 3070 etc or 4070/80 etc?
Or even the RTX series
I'm on a GTX 1080 still, I'm wondering how many of the 4000 series cards sold compared to other gens, the prices are just insane to me but feel I'm only one of a few resisting or are we seeing less mid-top tier graphic cards in peoples hand?
Or even the RTX series
I'm on a GTX 1080 still, I'm wondering how many of the 4000 series cards sold compared to other gens, the prices are just insane to me but feel I'm only one of a few resisting or are we seeing less mid-top tier graphic cards in peoples hand?
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I'm just really sick of the leaks/conjecture at this point and I just want them to reveal the damn products/prices already.
(same goes for the Switch 2)
(same goes for the Switch 2)
night13x
Member
If I recall correctly - I waited about a year after the paper launch of the RTX 4090 and grabbed an MSI Suprim Liquid X RTX 4090 at Microcenter fairly easily. Hoping (if) I upgrade it will be a similar timeline. Right now I don't really feel the need to upgrade unless I grab one of those upcoming 5k2k Oled Monitors as I am a huge fan of ultrawide 21:9 monitors.
Celcius
°Temp. member
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 reportedly launches January 21st - VideoCardz.com
GeForce RTX 508 arrives January 21, it is claimed First Blackwell RTX has a release date. Hong Kong media outlet HKEPC reports that the GeForce RTX 5080 graphics card will be released on January 21. This marks the first confirmed launch date for NVIDIA’s Blackwell GPU aimed at gamers. It is...
videocardz.com
RTX 5080 rumored to launch Jan 21st
RTX 5090 rumored to launch some time in February
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 reportedly launches January 21st - VideoCardz.com
GeForce RTX 508 arrives January 21, it is claimed First Blackwell RTX has a release date. Hong Kong media outlet HKEPC reports that the GeForce RTX 5080 graphics card will be released on January 21. This marks the first confirmed launch date for NVIDIA’s Blackwell GPU aimed at gamers. It is...
RTX 5080 rumored to launch Jan 26th
RTX 5090 rumored to launch some time in February
It says Jan 21st in the link you posted lol
Celcius
°Temp. member
You must have replied to my message right before I hit send on editing the typo
Haint
Member
The 4090 outsold every Titan and XX90 card combined, even including the massively inflated 3090 that saw 90% of its demand from crypto miners and covid shortages. It generates more profit per sell than 10+ 60-class and 5+ 70-series cards and has almost certainly been Nvidia's most successful and profitable singular consumer product in their entire history. The lower end 4000s have all sold pretty mediocre, neither great or terrible.
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Mister Wolf
Member
Kopite confirmed DLSS4
I want DLSS4.
CuNi
Member
Kopite confirmed DLSS4
Not saying he's lying, but everyone can just edit a webpage and put in any price.
I find it weird that it looks like Amazon or a store web-page, but instead of using a screenshot, the poster made a pic with his smartphone?
Desprado123
Member
DLSS would be not be framegen but i think it is related to real time rendering, which would provide better result than DLAA with better framerate.
SolidQ
Member
kopite nothing said about card, just confirmed, DLSS4 is real.
TrebleShot
Member
HAHAHHA fuk these lot are completely out of touch.
Is the TDP correct? so we cant use our 1k power units?
Is the TDP correct? so we cant use our 1k power units?
Schmendrick
Member
I was ready to shell out 2-2.5k (€) for a 5090.....But if the ~1700€ for the 5080 are correct then I guess I absolutely underestimated NVIDIA`s greed and will instead simply stick to my 3080.
Money isn`t really an issue but this is more than just a middle finger to consumers by now, that is beyond insulting and I absolutely refuse to support this.
Money isn`t really an issue but this is more than just a middle finger to consumers by now, that is beyond insulting and I absolutely refuse to support this.
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CuNi
Member
I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear in my response.
I focused my response on the screenshot and my intention wasn't to call him a liar because he says DLSS4 will come, but I wanted to point out that to use the screenshot as confirmation of it coming might be naïve.
Like I said, it looks fishy to me that it's a smartphone picture of a webpage that could just as easily have been made as a sharp screenshot on the PC directly and everyone can go to an Amazon webpage right now and change the title and price to whatever he wants.
I wouldn't be shocked myself if DLSS4 turns out to be true. I'm just skeptical of the screenshot being paraded as confirmation for DLSS4 and price.
You could undervolt the GPU to lower power consumption and at the same time reduce the amount of heat it will generate drastically.
If you undervolt a 5090, I'm pretty certain one could even power that with a 1000W PSU.
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