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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Thanks, I figured that'd work but I wanted to make sure.
I'd been playing on the PS3 Mega Drive Collection but it just wasn't the same.

I never have any luck with things like cartridges and memory cards. I've avoided playing on my PS2 for years because it would never read the memory cards, and if it did it'd have a 50/50 chance of corrupted instead of saving data. Last week I decided to blow once on the slot and the card and it worked.

No prob! (and no the PS3 collection is not enough... I have it too! Just inspired me to lean into collecting the real thing)

I bet you 99.9% of your feeling of unreliableness is due to the carts being dirty. I used to have the same notions about carts, but now I consider them solid as a rock. More reliable than CDs/DVDs. To this day, I've never found an old cart that doesn't work perfectly when I clean it up (all consoles).
 
To this day, I've never found an old cart that doesn't work perfectly when I clean it up (all consoles).

Added bonus, when people give you carts cheaply/for free because they 'don't work' and after a q-tip or 2 they're good as new!

The way some people treat discs these days, there's no reviving them with something so simple and cheap.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Added bonus, when people give you carts cheaply/for free because they 'don't work' and after a q-tip or 2 they're good as new!

Very true. At this point I would be extremely skeptical if someone claimed they had a cart that doesn't actually work (and I know it exists... but it's super rare).
 

IrishNinja

Member
+1, ive bought a ton of carts on the cheap this year, F-Zero (SNES) was the only one i couldn't save. q-tips, alcohol, even opened & cleaned it, just wouldn't give. literally hundreds of others here that just took a q-tip...god i love the format.
 

Dereck

Member
How do I get sound using this?

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I've seen some adapters that appear to have a SCART passthrough, so it outputs the video to component, then you can connect a separate piece to get the sound out. Haven't tried one though.
 

LordAlu

Member
How do I get sound using this?

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Judging from the look of that you can't, as it only appears to have the video outputs for component and no audio. You'd have to have a model 1 Mega Drive and use the headphones out, either connected to some speakers or to the 3.5mm audio-in jack on your TV... if you have one.
 

crash13

Neo Member
I grew up playing the Genesis. My first console. My first game was Sonic 3 and still love it to this day. Sonic 1-3, Kid Chameleon, Comix Zone, Donald Duck's Quackshot, Aladdin, X-Men, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers = My Childhood.
 
No prob! (and no the PS3 collection is not enough... I have it too! Just inspired me to lean into collecting the real thing)

I bet you 99.9% of your feeling of unreliableness is due to the carts being dirty. I used to have the same notions about carts, but now I consider them solid as a rock. More reliable than CDs/DVDs. To this day, I've never found an old cart that doesn't work perfectly when I clean it up (all consoles).

Nice.

I wouldn't mind extending my small Mega Drive collection- I've not bought anything for it since 2001 I'd guess. The main games I'd want would probably be Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic 3, Zool, and Fantastic Dizzy.
 

Dereck

Member
Judging from the look of that you can't, as it only appears to have the video outputs for component and no audio. You'd have to have a model 1 Mega Drive and use the headphones out, either connected to some speakers or to the 3.5mm audio-in jack on your TV... if you have one.
So what if I was using a Sega Saturn instead, any idea?
 
Hi guys, where am I to buy Scart RGB cables for my Mega Drive on the cheap?

I'm not looking for the crappy ones, but aiming for a price/quality kind of balance. :)
How do I get sound using this?
You plug the scart to this:

scart-breakout-adaptor.jpg


And only then, after you manage to put the audio out of the scart you plug it into your thing.
 
The Genesis was the first console I ever owned and Sonic 2 was the first game I ever played. It's made me a hopeful fan of Sonic ever since. I own copies of Sonic '06 and Sonic Unleashed because of the nostalgia I have for Sonic and the hope I have that Sega will get it right again someday (Generations and Colors also make me hopeful). But there are so many other awesome games on the Genesis. Blades of Vengeance, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Altered Beast, Outrun, the definitive MK 1 (not much of a boast anymore, but the blood code was really awesome when I was a kid), Shinobi III Return of the Ninja Master, Fatal Labyrinth, Comix Zone, Alladin, Vectorman, NHL the list goes on obviously, but those were some of my favorites growing up. Such an awesome system that I still argue about the merits of versus the SNES.
 
So, I bought the first two. Whenever I turn on the Sega, my TV says "invalid signal".

The setup is like this:

Genesis Model 2 > SCART cable > SCART to component adapter > red, blue green component cables > TV
Perhaps your TV doesn't support 240p over component? That's apparently a very common thing.
 

Teknoman

Member
You can also cut out the audio converter section if you buy an SCART cable with RCA plugs from that one Ebay seller. Of course she leaves the site pretty frequently...so it depends of if you're will to wait.

EDIT: Whoops...thought this was the Saturn thread. Damn multiple tabs. Still, if you have a model 1, you could just use the headphone port -> 3.5mm cable to RCA adapter and get stereo.
 
Thanks

No, it doesn't. Tried it on another TV of mine and it worked.
Does your TV have VGA?

If you still have the budget for it, buy a GBS 8220. You are already outputting component so with component cables linking to it the GBS 8220 scaler board ought to do it; it accepts 240p; it'll then output it via VGA.


Now, if the TV lacks VGA, you might need this Lenkeng 350 unit, also.
 
From RGB to component to VGA to HDMI? Why not just cut out the middle men there and go straight from RGB to HDMI?
You're right, but I was trying to keep the accessory he bought in the loop; he could then add a SLG3000 on top and get something akin to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSQ3lmE6UuY#t=22m52s


GBS 8220 is 22 euros or so on ebay; so if he has a VGA port it's a pretty cheap solution. If the TV lacks that then it get's tricky; and the Lenkeng 350 is the best "cheap" choice because it does scale on top of the VGA output to either 720p or 1080p; it just transcodes; so virtually no lag.

The GBS8220 itself adds like 33 ms or so, it's not bad.
 
I thought maybe someone here just might be interested in this: just posted in the B/S thread that I am looking to trade my complete copy of Robo Aleste for a copy of Lords of Thunder (Sega CD). Please PM me if interested.
 
Where can I buy this that isn't ebay?
Any electronic components store should stock them.

I know a few here that do. Sadly they're not all that easy to find (they're the stores that sell RCA's to solder and the like), they're not mall stores.


Also regular stores, like mediamarkt sometimes do (I don't know where you're from, mediamark is a brand of home appliance superstores that exists in europe), look for the cables and adapters area; if there's lots of hama crap you should be set. I saw them 2 days ago there, but deem them as expensive, 9.99€ if I recall correctly; it's worth ~3.50€ elsewhere locally.

Alternatively you might consider a scart splitter with audio out, that way you can plug more things at once; just beware of active ones, prefer the passive one's (pushing one button to change the scart channel).
 
Bleh. Any setup that adds more than 1 frame total (16ms) is a travesty.
Haha.

Even XRGB-mini adds 24,5ms (via leo bobnar) on 240p sources.

I'm not saying 33 ms is top of the line (and seeing leo bobnar is new; I'm betting these 33ms are via camera mode, that has discrepancies attached), but bottomline is: it's not so bad; 2 frames is the normal; more than that is bad, less than that is really good.


For the price it costs, a GBS 8220 is not bad at all. But I only suggested it because it accepts component in and upscales signal just fine.
 

IrishNinja

Member
yeah, i never measure but XRGB mini on a plasma brings whatever i consider highly acceptable ms.

I just remember this game. As a kid I never even got past the first stage.

i could swear i made it to the museum on a rental at a friend's house in the day (NES) but i just booted this genny version up a month or two back and had the exact same situation as you, heh
 
You might have seen me looking at a Chinese made Sega controller on eBay a few pages back. I bought it, and it arrived today.

It actually looks quite authentic, as far as I can tell. I've never actually held a proper Sega 6-button controller (only dodgy third party ones) but from looks it looks close to what I've seen.
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It even has genuine looking text on the back, and the Sega logo, stuff you don't normally see on knock offs.
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The cable is super short though, were they this short on the real thing? :|
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Also for fun, the box was kinda hilarious.
My new Pure Sega 6-botton controlier
FIGHTING PUTT
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And the back refers to a Mode button that doesn't exist. :S
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The controller itself feels pretty cruddy. Buttons shake around in their housing and don't quite feel like a genuine controller, more like one of those GAME controllers that come with knock-off portable DVD players and the like.
That said, it's better than the genuine 3-button controller with a dodgy C button that I have been using.
 

IrishNinja

Member
yeah, i forget about the cord (i wanna say it's longer but i sit close), d-pad looks okay but damn @ those buttons, shit don't look right at all!
 

Shining

Member
it's a great game, too - enjoy man!
Yep, it's a quite decent shooter! Love the music too.

Isn't that the game about space viking terrorists...? :p
You know your shit, Boco :D

"In the 30th century, Viking terrorists, led by the vicious Great Hilagi, are plundering and destroying planets throughout the Galaxy. They move in warships capable of travelling in Nether Space... and Earth is their next target."
 

@MUWANdo

Banned
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I just remember this game. As a kid I never even got past the first stage.

Oh god, I don't think there's a single Simpsons console game from that era that isn't complete garbage. Seriously, I can't think of a license with a worse ratio of good-to-crap than The Simpsons.

I almost wanna make a new thread on the subject, just to see if anyone can think of a worse one.
 

IrishNinja

Member
the worst of that lot for me was Krusty's not-so-fun house. ugh. even Bart's Nightmare at least had its moments, in comparison.

i wanna say South Park gives it a run for its money, but even those shitty games were at least N64 multiplayer so you & friends could have something resembling fun, suffering together.
 
the worst of that lot for me was Krusty's not-so-fun house. ugh. even Bart's Nightmare at least had its moments, in comparison.

i wanna say South Park gives it a run for its money, but even those shitty games were at least N64 multiplayer so you & friends could have something resembling fun, suffering together.
I think Krusty's (Super) Fun House is actually considered maybe the best one. :p

Yeah, for a decent Simpson's game that generation, the arcade game was the only choice.
 
Oh god, I don't think there's a single Simpsons console game from that era that isn't complete garbage. Seriously, I can't think of a license with a worse ratio of good-to-crap than The Simpsons.

I almost wanna make a new thread on the subject, just to see if anyone can think of a worse one.

It's the same game, but Bart VS. The Space Mutants on the Amiga by Ocean was terrible.

I'm trying to remember what controller I had for my Mega Drive originally. I got it around 1998, and it was bundled with my Mega Drive (I'm guessing it was probably one of the last UK bundles- it included Mega 6 and had images of different games at the back; Toy Story, Taz, Sonic 3D or & Knuckles, and possibly Pocahontas, and had a 3 button controller). However, I got another controller separate from that, a 3rd party 6 button one that was really comfortable. It looked like the MK-1470 Arcade Pad, but I'm sure it didn't have the Sega logo on the front, and it definitely
don't quote me on that
didn't have the red light behind the normal/turbo/slow switch.

Did any variations/similar looking 3rd party variations of that model come out in the UK?
 

stewy

Member
It actually looks quite authentic, as far as I can tell. I've never actually held a proper Sega 6-button controller (only dodgy third party ones) but from looks it looks close to what I've seen.

Looks pretty close, though I think the x/y/z buttons aren't concave like that on the actual controller.
 
the worst of that lot for me was Krusty's not-so-fun house. ugh. even Bart's Nightmare at least had its moments, in comparison.

i wanna say South Park gives it a run for its money, but even those shitty games were at least N64 multiplayer so you & friends could have something resembling fun, suffering together.

I really liked Krusty`s Fun House at the time (if I remember right I beated it). However, I never liked Bart`s Nightmare (although it was one of my brother`s favorites). Well, everyone has a different taste. I should pick a copy again to see if my opinion holds.

On a side note, that Genesis lot of CIB games I posted a few pages back arrived today. It is on the Post Office I have to go there and pay the taxes. I was billed in an extra of US$ 150 of taxes.... Man, that hurts bad...
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
Oh god, I don't think there's a single Simpsons console game from that era that isn't complete garbage. Seriously, I can't think of a license with a worse ratio of good-to-crap than The Simpsons.

I almost wanna make a new thread on the subject, just to see if anyone can think of a worse one.

We rented that when I was a kid, and tried to play it on a TV with bad color. As you can imagine it was really hard.
 
On a side note, that Genesis lot of CIB games I posted a few pages back arrived today. It is on the Post Office I have to go there and pay the taxes. I was billed in an extra of US$ 150 of taxes.... Man, that hurts bad...
I feel your pain: I was once hit with $160 in customs fees because the seller forgot to mark as a gift a bunch of Saturn games I ordered from him...
 
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