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[Sixfortyfive]

I wasn't adept on picking up on RPG tropes in my younger days and

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took her to be the lead character rather than the mentor. What a gut punch.

Best Easter egg: All that money she extorts from Hahn at the beginning actually does get added to your wallet.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

Best Easter egg: All that money she extorts from Hahn at the beginning actually does get added to your wallet.

Wait, it fucking does? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Yep haha. It took me a while to notice it back in the day but when I saw that I LOLed. Go Alys, you lovable devious bitch you <3

 

[GhaleonEB]

I wasn't adept on picking up on RPG tropes in my younger days and

Spoiler

took her to be the lead character rather than the mentor. What a gut punch.

Best Easter egg: All that money she extorts from Hahn at the beginning actually does get added to your wallet.

Right up until that event, I also thought she was the lead. Or at least was confused about which one of the two was. And :lol at the extortion, I never noticed. That's awesome.

 

[uncledonnie]

PS II didn't even attempt those things, outside of the intro and ending sequences tying lightly to the first game. (Dark Force literally jumps out of a box, with no context, for example.)

PS II could have been the exact same game it was, and yet could have more strongly been set in the same universe as PS I, basically.

No doubt PSIV did a fantastic job of tying all the games together but I thought PSII had plenty of links to it's prequel.

The native Motavians that you said were removed are indeed in the game. They're in several of the dungeons on Mota scavenging junk, they talk to you, and they're the ones that leave the hydroscooter. If anything, they have a more prominent role than they had in the first game.

Then there's the Myau cats on Dezolis, the Dezolians themselves and even the aeroprism to see hidden dungeons. Finally, Noah/Lutz is in both games. Seemed like a lot of ties to the first game to me.

It's set in the same universe as PSI, it's just meant to look different because it takes place 1,000 years later, after all the advancements brought from Earth. PSIV just seems closer to PSI because that was the whole idea; Mother Brain was destroyed which set technology way back and undid all the terraforming on Mota, bringing things much closer to how they were in the first game.

 

[Miguel81]

No doubt PSIV did a fantastic job of tying all the games together but I thought PSII had plenty of links to it's prequel.

The native Motavians that you said were removed are indeed in the game. They're in several of the dungeons on Mota scavenging junk, they talk to you, and they're the ones that leave the hydroscooter. If anything, they have a more prominent role than they had in the first game.

Then there's the Myau cats on Dezolis, the Dezolians themselves and even the aeroprism to see hidden dungeons. Finally, Noah/Lutz is in both games. Seemed like a lot of ties to the first game to me.

It's set in the same universe as PSI, it's just meant to look different because it takes place 1,000 years later, after all the advancements brought from Earth. PSIV just seems closer to PSI because that was the whole idea; Mother Brain was destroyed which set technology way back and undid all the terraforming on Mota, bringing things much closer to how they were in the first game.

I just finished playing through the original PS1 on the master system, should I go to II, or skip directly to IV?

 

[uncledonnie]

I just finished playing through the original PS1 on the master system, should I go to II, or skip directly to IV?

II is a major grind compared to modern RPGs, and some of the dungeons are hard as balls. If you can get past those things I would definitely play it; it's still a very good game. Since you've played through PS1 I don't think you would have any problems.

 

[Miguel81]

II is a major grind compared to modern RPGs, and some of the dungeons are hard as balls. If you can get past those things I would definitely play it; it's still a very good game. Since you've played through PS1 I don't think you would have any problems.

I loved the style of the game, it's aged a lot better than other 80s RPGs. Graph paper was a must and I have all of the dungeons mapped out. Sucks for the lack of FM music from the Japanese version. Anyway, I'll get the sequel off ebay. Thanks.

 

[IrishNinja]

ah, never added it up that way EB, good call..and it's funny, i always celebrated how PS IV even went in to tie III into the mythology, but you're right that it did so much to bring the feel of I and plot of II as well. only reinforces my notion that it's about as perfect a finale to a sequential RPG series as ive yet seen, and is critically forgotten on top 10 JRPG lists

Best Easter egg: All that money she extorts from Hahn at the beginning actually does get added to your wallet.

oh god, this would've broken my heart at the time if idve caught it

 

[GhaleonEB]

I loved the style of the game, it's aged a lot better than other 80s RPGs. Graph paper was a must and I have all of the dungeons mapped out. Sucks for the lack of FM music from the Japanese version. Anyway, I'll get the sequel off ebay. Thanks.

Covered, but I echo uncledonnie's comments. It's a solid game that has a pretty steep difficulty curve, especially when it comes to dungeon design. Personally I find the difficulty one of the defining features and enjoy it a great deal; you'll find yourself getting through dungeons with a feeling of exhaustion and accomplishment, which is what I want in a good dungeon crawl.

uncledonnie, you make some good points with some of the overlapping elements I (somehow) forgot, even after having just played PS II. However, I think that many of the connections verge on throw away references more than anything else, and that PS II undersells the connections, especially when it comes to the story. (Though some of that might be crappy translation; I didn't know that Lutz and Noah were the same character until last year.) But then there's a good argument to be made that such forgetfulness of Algo's history is part of the premise of the game.

Regardless, I feel that PS IV struck a better balance at doing its own thing and still showing it's cultural and narrative roots back to the first and second games. But in the scheme of things, it's a quibble; PS II is one of my favorite games ever.

I haven't played PS III since I had it back in the prime of the Genesis days. I have no fond memories of it - is it as bad as I think it was? I'm itching for some old-school RPGs but have all but exhausted what's on the Genesis Collection.

I might need to revisit the first Phantasy Star again...

 

[uncledonnie]

Though some of that might be crappy translation; I didn't know that Lutz and Noah were the same character until last year.

Yeah that is definitely part of it. Really a shame that Sega of America didn't do justice to it.

 

[IrishNinja]

(Though some of that might be crappy translation; I didn't know that Lutz and Noah were the same character until last year.)

only found out about this a few years back & was pretty upset about it; it totally took a lotta the magic out of Lutz's intro coming out of cryogenic sleep...even as a kid i felt that scene was done like it should've been more important than it was. such a wasted moment over here.

I haven't played PS III since I had it back in the prime of the Genesis days. I have no fond memories of it - is it as bad as I think it was?

having played the crap out of it in the day, i recall:
a) a big step back in animations (and challenge, if you're up for that)
b) boring overworld for the most part, i didnt care for going back to medieval look either
c) soundtrack wasnt as consistent but had some great ones here & there
d) the payoff of going through all the generation is a lotta repeated content and very little reason to do so; some endings are weird/contradictory and kinda fall flat.

perfect example of a game i got hyped as crap & had a hard time accepting my feelings on because it was fucking Phantasy Star and i was a young teen who waited forever for it to drop, but it left me with next to no desire to revisit overall

 

[uncledonnie]

having played the crap out of it in the day, i recall:
a) a big step back in animations (and challenge, if you're up for that)
b) boring overworld for the most part, i didnt care for going back to medieval look either
c) soundtrack wasnt as consistent but had some great ones here & there
d) the payoff of going through all the generation is a lotta repeated content and very little reason to do so; some endings are weird/contradictory and kinda fall flat.

perfect example of a game i got hyped as crap & had a hard time accepting my feelings on because it was fucking Phantasy Star and i was a young teen who waited forever for it to drop, but it left me with next to no desire to revisit overall

These are pretty much my sentiments exactly. It's good that the game is basically inconsequential in the overarching story so it can be skipped without hurting the experience.

 

[GhaleonEB]

having played the crap out of it in the day, i recall:
a) a big step back in animations (and challenge, if you're up for that)
b) boring overworld for the most part, i didnt care for going back to medieval look either
c) soundtrack wasnt as consistent but had some great ones here & there
d) the payoff of going through all the generation is a lotta repeated content and very little reason to do so; some endings are weird/contradictory and kinda fall flat.

perfect example of a game i got hyped as crap & had a hard time accepting my feelings on because it was fucking Phantasy Star and i was a young teen who waited forever for it to drop, but it left me with next to no desire to revisit overall

That totally lines up with my memory of it. I recall the combat animations and music in particular getting hit hard; giant monsters who...wiggle their finger to attack. That sort of thing. Lots of plowing through combat without the strategies that PS II (and now IV) forced due to their difficulty. And branching paths that felt mostly cosmetic. I also recall each trip through the game being very short, probably due to having to the branching paths.

I did get a kick out of the fallen ship from PS III in PS IV. Totally optional, fun dungeon.

 

[Baconbitz]

Question. Where online do you guys get your "cased" games? If using eBay what do you search for? My search results leave me with fairly common games that I already own with one or two good games, or mostly sports games.

 

[Cody_D165]

Question. Where online do you guys get your "cased" games? If using eBay what do you search for? My search results leave me with fairly common games that I already own with one or two good games, or mostly sports games.

Use the term Complete or CIB (Complete in Box). Or even just "Boxed".

If not using eBay, thrift stores, garage sales, and flea markets are the best places to hunt for deals.

 

[baphomet]

New episode of GameSack is about the 32x. They cover every game released for it. Overall pretty decent episode.

Www.youtube.com/mrgamesack

Check them out if you've never watched them before. Informative and high quality captures of lots of obscure and good games.

 

[Cody_D165]

New episode of GameSack is about the 32x. They cover every game released for it. Overall pretty decent episode.

Www.youtube.com/mrgamesack

Check them out if you've never watched them before. Informative and high quality captures of lots of obscure and good games.

Those guys have top-notch editing and use of stop-motion disassembly. I love their show. Their Sega CD episode is also awesome.

 

[baphomet]

Those guys have top-notch editing and use of stop-motion disassembly. I love their show. Their Sega CD episode is also awesome.

Yea they really do have great quality for being a Youtube show. GameSack and Game Chasers are the two shows that I make sure to watch every time a new episode is released. Joe and Dave are actually in the same area as me (Denver). Id love to check out their collections sometime, and kinda see how they put the show together. Me and the girlfriend have been toying with the idea of a show as well. In fact we have a decent amount of nice equipment for filming. Just want to get a Turbo Duo R and an XRGB before we start trying to put anything to film. I feel like high quality captures/ editing and covering less known stuff can go a long way.

 

[stewy]

I haven't played PS III since I had it back in the prime of the Genesis days. I have no fond memories of it - is it as bad as I think it was? I'm itching for some old-school RPGs but have all but exhausted what's on the Genesis Collection.

I might need to revisit the first Phantasy Star again...

I played through most of PSIII earlier this year, and yes, it's as bad as you remember. A total step back from PSII.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Yea they really do have great quality for being a Youtube show. GameSack and Game Chasers are the two shows that I make sure to watch every time a new episode is released. Joe and Dave are actually in the same area as me (Denver). Id love to check out their collections sometime, and kinda see how they put the show together. Me and the girlfriend have been toying with the idea of a show as well. In fact we have a decent amount of nice equipment for filming. Just want to get a Turbo Duo R and an XRGB before we start trying to put anything to film. I feel like high quality captures/ editing and covering less known stuff can go a long way.

If this ever gets off the ground, please be sure to mention it here. I would totally watch.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

New episode of GameSack is about the 32x. They cover every game released for it. Overall pretty decent episode.

Www.youtube.com/mrgamesack

Check them out if you've never watched them before. Informative and high quality captures of lots of obscure and good games.

Great video, but even as Sega fan/collector here, i echo Joe's sentiment. I was ready to accept that, like the Sega CD, the 32x was probably shit on more then it deserved. If it had more time, it may have been better rounded, but between boring ports of sports and meh games, a few ok titles like Knuckles and Kolibri, and some boring originals, the system really does suck. The only real exceptions are Space Harrier, After Burner, Virtua Racing, and i actually do dig Tempo, personally.

 

[Slermy]

Question. Where online do you guys get your "cased" games? If using eBay what do you search for? My search results leave me with fairly common games that I already own with one or two good games, or mostly sports games.

I'm probably biased since they're a local shop, but I also like using www.estarland.com.

 

[ZealousD]

Great video, but even as Sega fan/collector here, i echo Joe's sentiment. I was ready to accept that, like the Sega CD, the 32x was probably shit on more then it deserved. If it had more time, it may have been better rounded, but between boring ports of sports and meh games, a few ok titles like Knuckles and Kolibri, and some boring originals, the system really does suck. The only real exceptions are Space Harrier, After Burner, Virtua Racing, and i actually do dig Tempo, personally.

"The 32x was great! Except for all the reasons it sucked."

I agree that after the fact, after the smoke cleared and you can now buy a used 32x for about $50, that it's not so bad. For the cost of the system and a bit more scratch for games you can actually get some use out of it, and it's kinda nice as a bit of a history piece.

But this thing blew ass around the time it was released. It was just way too expensive for what you got and it was so poorly timed. I think the Sega CD was really a much better idea and was more timely. I think if the Sega CD was a bit cheaper and it didn't become known for crappy FMV games it probably would have done better. But I think the 32x was doomed at the start.

 

[Slermy]

I love my 32X. Granted, I got mine for $20, but I love Virtua Racing Deluxe, and quite enjoyed Knuckles Chaotix. I've also put a lot of time into NBA Jam T.E., Star Wars Arcade and Kolibri as well.

$150 was way too much, and it was poorly timed, but it has aged well I think.

 

[Teknoman]

Themed GAF plays thread of the month is up if you guys want to join in:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=688439

 

[Shadow Hog]

Not really my genre. I suppose I should finish Blood one of these days, though. Episode 2 seriously has me spooked.

 

[Canadian Psycho]

I love Game Sack too. Much like these retro GAF threads, the show is tough on the wallet as I'm discovering tons of interesting games to add to the collection.The Left in Japan and console-centric episodes are the best. I love the Saturn, PC Engine and GameCube ones, to name a few. The Genesis shooters episode is great as well.

Which leads me to this question (nice segueway!): is Zero Wing compatible "out of the box" with the JVC X'Eye (i.e. without the need for an adapter or Game Genie)? I've been searching for an X'Eye compatibility list but to no avail (I've read that post-'92 games had a built-in lockout chip though, don't know if it's true). Any help is appreciated.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

So, an update from my current work on beating all the Sega Genesis and its add-ons games:

Beaten:
Dynamite Duke: A solid little action on-rails shooter like the NES Punisher and many light-gun games of that era, except without the light-gun. Not super-challenging, but it was a fun half-hour, even if was super repetitive.

Fire Shark: Again, bare-bones, but a fun top-down shooter. There are only a few different types of power-ups, but they upgrade about 4 times, and they get intense when you get them up to full power. However, the game has a really weird, random ending that's worth seeing.

Working On:
Dick Tracy: Man, this game could be amazing, if there wasn't the poor "no guns" sections. The game's main mechanic of dealing with enemies in the fore and background is really cool, and has some awesome boss encounters. However, when you are just at your fist, the hit detection is quite poor, and later levels get really cheap with enemies.

Landstalker: Initial reactions were poor (the isometric view is just really frustrating, even if it makes the game look really nice), but slowly, I've adjusted to it, and its been getting better. I've enjoyed my first 2 dungeons, the story is good, and the music is excellent. Still, having to pick-up and place items in order to use them to save, buy items, and stay at the inn is just annoying, and takes more work then just having a menu.

 

[A Black Falcon]

New episode of GameSack is about the 32x. They cover every game released for it. Overall pretty decent episode.

Www.youtube.com/mrgamesack

Check them out if you've never watched them before. Informative and high quality captures of lots of obscure and good games.

The end bit there (PS3 vs. Genesis+CD+32X) was actually one of their first web videos... I think it's still on Youtube, from years ago. So if it looks older, it is. It's still quite amusing, though!

 

[Baconbitz]

Use the term Complete or CIB (Complete in Box). Or even just "Boxed".

If not using eBay, thrift stores, garage sales, and flea markets are the best places to hunt for deals.

What about lots? Do you ever search for lots? Thats what I was searching for but every time there was a sports game, or a game I already had.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I've had good experience searching for genesis lots in the past. Nothing too scarce or crazy but quality tiles for way less than buying separately.

 

[ZealousD]

I've had good experience searching for genesis lots in the past. Nothing too scarce or crazy but quality tiles for way less than buying separately.

Yeah I think it's fairly easy to get a good price on Genesis lots. I've had some luck.

Gotta watch out for whether or not the manual is mentioned though. If there's no pictures of manuals, assume it's not complete. Some sellers will just show a bunch of boxes, I think you should avoid those. Only buy lots where somebody opens the case and shows you the manuals and cartridges inside.

 

[Baconbitz]

I've had good experience searching for genesis lots in the past. Nothing too scarce or crazy but quality tiles for way less than buying separately.

What do you search for in the case of lots? "Sega Genesis game lots, New Sega Genesis Game lots, CIB game lots"?

 

[GhaleonEB]

Landstalker: Initial reactions were poor (the isometric view is just really frustrating, even if it makes the game look really nice), but slowly, I've adjusted to it, and its been getting better. I've enjoyed my first 2 dungeons, the story is good, and the music is excellent. Still, having to pick-up and place items in order to use them to save, buy items, and stay at the inn is just annoying, and takes more work then just having a menu.

The perspective can definitely frustrate, especially in some of the later dungeons, but keep at it. The world and dungeon designs are pretty great.

 

[OmegaDL50]

I'm enjoying this discussion on Phantasy Star IV, one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

I really enjoyed the combination spell mechanics. Shooting Star (Burstoc + Foi) and Grand Cross (Crosscut + Efess) being one of my most used throughout the game.

If I had to compile a list of my favorite Genesis / Mega Drive titles, and limiting it to just ten.

1) Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium
2) Sonic 3 + Knuckles
3) Streets of Rage 2
4) Shining Force II
5) Beyond Oasis
6) Castlevania : Bloodlines
7) Ristar
8) Dynamite Headdy
9) Sorcerer's Kingdom (A relatively unknown RPG by now defunct publisher Treco developed by NCS Corp.)
10) The DIS developed titles (Quackshot, Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, etc)

Having received a Genesis immediately after the NES, it was my 2nd game console ever, so it had very large influence that had an impression during my late childhood and teenage years. I have great appreciation for this thread as I had more nostalgic memories enjoying the Genesis more then the SNES. I'd go so far to say the Genesis is arguably one of my favorite console of all time. Both the Genesis and SNES are easily tied for this spot.

 

[Genesis Knight]

Nice top ten. Beyond Oasis belongs.

 

[Miguel81]

I'm enjoying this discussion on Phantasy Star IV, one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

I really enjoyed the combination spell mechanics. Shooting Star (Burstoc + Foi) and Grand Cross (Crosscut + Efess) being one of my most used throughout the game.

If I had to compile a list of my favorite Genesis / Mega Drive titles, and limiting it to just ten.

1) Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium
2) Sonic 3 + Knuckles
3) Streets of Rage 2
4) Shining Force II
5) Beyond Oasis
6) Castlevania : Bloodlines
7) Ristar
8) Dynamite Headdy
9) Sorcerer's Kingdom (A relatively unknown RPG by now defunct publisher Treco developed by NCS Corp.)
10) The DIS developed titles (Quackshot, Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, etc)

Having received a Genesis immediately after the NES, it was my 2nd game console ever, so it had very large influence that had an impression during my late childhood and teenage years. I have great appreciation for this thread as I had more nostalgic memories enjoying the Genesis more then the SNES. I'd go so far to say the Genesis is arguably one of my favorite console of all time. Both the Genesis and SNES are easily tied for this spot.

That soundtrack, man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxb7Zfay0dY

 

[sixteen-bit]

That soundtrack, man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxb7Zfay0dY

Yamane :bow:

 

[OmegaDL50]

Nice top ten. Beyond Oasis belongs.

Thanks.

In fact I recently purchased this collection - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AEV8HI2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It contains every single game on my list, except two. I would consider this to be the ultimate Genesis collection (even superior to the PS2 and PS3/360 Genesis collections), it's the omission of Castlevania Bloodlines, Crusader of Centy, and The DIS titles (Quackshock, Castle of Illusion) prevents it from being perfection for me.

Of course I can understand Castlevania: Bloodlines due to licensing issues from Konami and the Disney titles, however Crusader of Centy / Soliel was published by Sega so it's not being in the collection is odd.

EDIT : Ah yes, Castlevania: Bloodlines had an amazing soundtrack. It's perhaps one of the very few games that I can consistently finish on the hardest difficulty (then again, getting the best ending requires the hardest difficulty setting. One of the few games that requires a code to get access to said difficulty.

 

[Miguel81]

Yamane :bow:

It's godly, such great use of the genny sound chip.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

I'm enjoying this discussion on Phantasy Star IV, one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

I really enjoyed the combination spell mechanics. Shooting Star (Burstoc + Foi) and Grand Cross (Crosscut + Efess) being one of my most used throughout the game.

If I had to compile a list of my favorite Genesis / Mega Drive titles, and limiting it to just ten.

1) Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium
2) Sonic 3 + Knuckles
3) Streets of Rage 2
4) Shining Force II
5) Beyond Oasis
6) Castlevania : Bloodlines
7) Ristar
8) Dynamite Headdy
9) Sorcerer's Kingdom (A relatively unknown RPG by now defunct publisher Treco developed by NCS Corp.)
10) The DIS developed titles (Quackshot, Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, etc)

Great taste, sir/madam. So good to see Ristar and Beyond Oasis get some love. (Also, assuming you're fairly new, welcome to NeoGAF.)

Having received a Genesis immediately after the NES, it was my 2nd game console ever, so it had very large influence that had an impression during my late childhood and teenage years. I have great appreciation for this thread as I had more nostalgic memories enjoying the Genesis more then the SNES. I'd go so far to say the Genesis is arguably one of my favorite console of all time. Both the Genesis and SNES are easily tied for this spot.

Dude are you like, my brother? I'm the same, growing up with the Genesis. Remember when Sega used to be so awesome...

Yamane :bow:

:bow:

 

[Mikhal]

I got the itch to start a Genesis collection after my buddy picked up a Genesis/Sega CD at a classic game shop we went to during the weekend. Saw a copy of Ranger X there, got nostalgic, and I bought it and let him borrow it. Never thought I'd start this up again after selling off my CDX and the few games I had left.

Did I do any good with this ebay purchase? Punisher seems to be rarer now, but the games look like they're in pretty shitty condition. Hopefully they all work. The seller accepted my offer of $18.93 so it ended up being $30 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350888781522

 

[OmegaDL50]

Great taste, sir/madam. So good to see Ristar and Beyond Oasis get some love. (Also, assuming you're fairly new, welcome to NeoGAF.)

Thanks, this place is pretty cool.

[Dude are you like, my brother? I'm the same, growing up with the Genesis. Remember when Sega used to be so awesome...

Well I haven't agreed with many of the Sega's decisions throughout the years. Not releasing a new Streets of Rage title, and turning Shining Force into a dungeon crawler baffles me. Considering what they did with Golden Axe (Beast Rider ugh).

Well at least Sumo Digital did a respectable Outrun sequel, which was one of Sega's better ideas.

I wonder if we will ever get a Phantasy Star V or "traditional RPG" Phantasy Star title again, it's probably too much to ask to let Rieko Kodama head the project.

To not get completely off topic.

Anyone ever play a fairly obscure Genesis game called El Viento? The closest comparison I can think of is something like Valis (that itself also being an obscure series)

 

[amardilo]

Just picked up Micro Machines Turbo Tournament '96 and Dynamite Headdy.

I should hopefully get delivered Ghouls 'n Ghosts, ToeJam & Earl, Cannon Fodder, Golden Axe 2, Micro Machines 2 and Micro Machines Military soon too!

I am still looking out for:
Gunstar Heroes
Thunder Force IV/Lightening Force
Golden Axe
Thunder Force III
Shining Force
Rocket Knight Adventures
Maximum Carnage (with the red cartridge and case)
Target Earth (don't think this was released in a PAL teritory so may need to get the NTSC version and a NTSC console)
Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles The Hyperstone Heist
Comix Zone

I never really played any sports games on the Mega Drive other than the odd game of World Cup Italia '90, are there any that hold up? I recently bought NBA Jam on SNES but is there any major advantage to having it on the Mega Drive?

 

[Shaneus]

If I can make a recommendation as well, I'd strongly suggest getting Psycho Pinball by Codies. Although when I played it on an emulator it seemed to be a lot more sluggish than I remembered, I can only attribute that to it being the US version (the PAL version obviously running faster). I should test that theory out now.

 

[amardilo]

If I can make a recommendation as well, I'd strongly suggest getting Psycho Pinball by Codies. Although when I played it on an emulator it seemed to be a lot more sluggish than I remembered, I can only attribute that to it being the US version (the PAL version obviously running faster). I should test that theory out now.

Great thanks, I'll add that to my list of games to check out.

 

[Shaneus]

I'll be honest, it's probably not that great, and if you're looking for quality MD games (or at least, ones with a specific aspect that makes it stand out, like great sound or whatever) there are plenty of others that would be better.

PS. As far as sports games on the MD go (are you PAL or NTSC, curious) FIFA (or I guess FIFA '95 or '96 etc.) I remember being quite impressive. Never got into any of the others, but I don't think you can go wrong with it. Oh, and for some reason I recall reviews of the NBA Jams saying the MD version of the original was *slightly* better than the SNES one, but Tournament Edition put the SNES version way ahead. There's no point in hunting one down if you have the other, I guess.

 

[amardilo]

I'll be honest, it's probably not that great, and if you're looking for quality MD games (or at least, ones with a specific aspect that makes it stand out, like great sound or whatever) there are plenty of others that would be better.

PS. As far as sports games on the MD go (are you PAL or NTSC, curious) FIFA (or I guess FIFA '95 or '96 etc.) I remember being quite impressive. Never got into any of the others, but I don't think you can go wrong with it. Oh, and for some reason I recall reviews of the NBA Jams saying the MD version of the original was *slightly* better than the SNES one, but Tournament Edition put the SNES version way ahead. There's no point in hunting one down if you have the other, I guess.

Sorry I should have stated I am a PAL gamer in the UK.

I've almost got all the games I want or had memories of as a child (missing about 10 now) but I never really had many sports games (or RPGs) so it is a genre I would like to look into. I am not immediately planning on buying anything I just want to see what games I missed growing up.

I don't really mind if the quality of the game is not outstanding, just as long as some aspect of the game (gameplay, visuals or audio) that is of note.

Thanks for the tips, I totally forgot about the FIFA games. I think I will also try and see if I can get a Mega Drive version of NBA Jam and see some videos on Psycho Pinball.

 

[Genesis Knight]

Of course I can understand Castlevania: Bloodlines due to licensing issues from Konami and the Disney titles, however Crusader of Centy / Soliel was published by Sega so it's not being in the collection is odd.

Centy was published by Atlus, not Sega IIRC.