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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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Genesis Knight
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True word. But most people don't care about Xbox. PS2 gets the glory.
Hockeymac18
Member
I loved the first wipeout and wipeout XL and also only played them on the Saturn. I did play a couple more versions of the game, though (my last being on the PSP), and noticed the series did change a lot between games (and not really for the better). I really liked Psygnosis game back in the day...I always thought it was interesting that they made games for Saturn when they were a Sony-owned company.
Wipeout was one of the first games that I'd put in my CD player to listen to its soundtrack. I did this for a lot of other games on the Saturn (Need For Speed was another favorite), which I thought was really cool when I first tried it.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
This is a cyclic thing, When one hardware generation ends and the next is starting to take off the interest in retro gaming goes up as do the prices. The prices will drop back as the catalog for the next gen machines grows. Some titles will always be expensive but many will become more reasonable.
A friend of mine noticed this pattern between ps1 and ps2 generations and it's been the same ever since. For example, Nintendo introduce a new console and interest in their old machines rises.
With Saturn games particularly in the US there just was not high enough quantity of games manufactured so the prices are higher. I get the impression is was harder to find Saturn games even when they were new. In Europe it's a little better but certain titles still demand a high price.
sixteen-bit
Member
So many legit great Japanese action games on Xbox. I totally agree.
cj_iwakura
Member
Which ruler did you pick? If you say Wein I am going to hurt you.
cj_iwakura
Member
I don't often say this, but YES.
His campaign SUCKS. Worst troops, no character.
(Okay, Teiris' are the worst, but she has a good plot and you can upgrade her easily.)
If you're too deep though, I can give you advice.
I'm only a few hours in so I don't mind starting over. Which kingdom would you suggest starting with?
cj_iwakura
Member
If you want a challenge? Gongos, Leon.
If you want to get punished? Teiris, Wein.
If you want to steamroll the game? Mikhal, Junon.
Every plot is good, but the other five are really great. The last two unlockables are just plain OP.
I would suggest Mikhal or Junon.
And in many degrees the PS2 earned that glory.
but I bought Otogi cib for $5 and it feels all kinds of good.
Thanks for the tips! Probably gonna go with Mikhal.
cj_iwakura
Member
Fun choice, samurai can take almost everything the game throws at you. Just be careful against Harpies. And don't attack the country to the north, they're much stronger than they look. Defend if necessary, but don't go offensive against them. Go after Tradnor(red) or Bozack(Green) first.
Genesis Knight
Member
Oh, no doubt. PS2 is a dream machine. I don't own one and I don't collect one just because I don't want to start down that massive, massive road. Maybe that's wrong of me.
ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL Dragon Force Tip 1: When an army attacks your castle and you beat them, they run away. If you pause the game ASAP after the battle is over and you're back to the overworld map, you can dispatch an army from your castle and catch them. When you beat their weakened forces, you'll capture their generals and they won't be able to retreat (usually).
(This game was a miserable grind until I found this out.)
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
There is still no accounting for your bad taste, cj. 
Mikhal's campaign is the least interesting of the 8. At least it's fairly easy and straightforward and suitable for a first-timer, though.
Mikhal's campaign is the least interesting of the 8. At least it's fairly easy and straightforward and suitable for a first-timer, though.I'm more or less the same. I find it rewarding to explore a console's library as much as possible, and that's a lot harder to do on the "mainstream" machines because there's just so much more ground to cover.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Hehe
sixteen-bit
Member
I would play Panda Dragoon
Hey, don't laugh, I just came up with the subtitle for the Crimson Dragon OT.
encephalon
Member
What do people do when they have unwanted cheap imports that aren't really in condition to sell? The case to Langrisser IV mysteriously broke (the inner plastic circle that holds the disc in place), and now I have an otherwise "decent" game that I can't really sell to importers given high standards, blah blah blah.
Obviously I can't just throw games away, but they're too embarrassing for me to play.
Obviously I can't just throw games away, but they're too embarrassing for me to play.
cj_iwakura
Member
There's an amazing one that compares Grandia PS1 to Saturn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoactLpR29A
Oh what could have been.
encephalon
Member
I've only ever played the Saturn ver., but to be honest I've always been jealous of the far superior PS spell animations. There are some interesting differences, but the Saturn ver. being built up as much better than the PS ver. seems like a hell of of an exaggeration to me.
That would explain why I thought the game was so hard, I always ended it by giving up. Only tried Wein so far.
I'll try it again soon with one of the other characters.
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Crystal Castle(Northern Wein/Southern Teiris) - Every turn search at that castle for a chance to get a Dragon Token. Dragons beat everything in the game except samurai.
When fighting close battles, just stay on defense and force the enemy to come to too(if not a stalemate) Units on defense fighting units of the same type will kill 2/3 to 1.
Honestly I thought Weins storyline was fine - The weakest main char is Teiris no doubt, but even with dragons shes is unstoppable.
Genesis Knight
Member
Wish there was a Saturn Grandia translation patch in the works. Can't be bothered to play while reading a guide.
My JPY copy is still sitting in the shrink wrap waiting for me to, you know, learn Japanese...
Shadow Hog
Member
Ah, right, CJ mentioned finding one of those tokens when I asked for help some months ago. If that's where they are, then that's where I'll focus all my efforts on, since Wein's cavalry isn't enough to take on that vampire's (Vlad?) zombie army.
Y'know, when I stop being enamored with Xenoblade.
Dark Octave
Banned
What do you do about thick black horizontal lines across the screen in some games?
Genesis Knight
Member
Horizontal? Vertical? In the picture or on the borders?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I never actually switch troop types for any of the officers whenever I play Dragon Force anymore. Once you know how to exploit the AI it just makes it too easy.
I beat Wein's story once without handing out a single award to anybody.
I beat Wein's story once without handing out a single award to anybody.
Watched the Game Sack retrospective on YouTube and its totally made me want to get a Saturn again.
I had two many years ago but they ended up being destroyed in a move, even lost the games and pads too. I don't even want the biggest most expensive of titles just a nice round collection of like 15 games and cover a range of genres. Always wanted the Saturn version of Xmen vs Street Fighter for example.
I had two many years ago but they ended up being destroyed in a move, even lost the games and pads too. I don't even want the biggest most expensive of titles just a nice round collection of like 15 games and cover a range of genres. Always wanted the Saturn version of Xmen vs Street Fighter for example.
Dark Octave
Banned
Horizontal in the actual picture.
It's almost like I'm looking through window blinds.
cj_iwakura
Member
My proudest achievement is beating Tradnor's scenario without recruiting or using anyone outside of his core generals(which are admittedly pretty broken) or changing anyone's troops.
I'll try with with Teiris one day. That's nightmare mode.
Genesis Knight
Member
$250 last September.
Shadow Hog
Member
I paid $160-180 back in December of 2008, although that's not really "recently".
Looked it up. $176 on eBay back in September 2009. I actually paid a little more than it was going for at the time (I think about $30 more) because the listing was very detailed, game was in excellent condition, and it came from a collection.
I think the auction ended up around 205$+20$ for shipping on Ebay. It was in 2011 iirc.
Though everything is pretty much mint except the first disc a have a very few fine scratches.
I just took a look at all the BIN prices on Ebay, dayum. Feels good to have obtained it at this price.
Genesis Knight
Member
And as you can see from those posts, PDS has (essentially) been rising in price every year since it went out of print and stores closed out their Saturn stock. The question is, where will it plateau?
cj_iwakura
Member
I wonder if we'll ever see it literally disappear, where every copy is in the possession of someone who won't part with it.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
I own 4 copies of PDS and I can't bear to sell any of them I was once offered $500 for one of my copies, turned the guy down.
cj_iwakura
Member
I don't own PDS, but I consider Magic Knight Rayearth to be far more valuable, since it's not nearly as hot a commodity but it was the last Saturn game ever released here.
Shadow Hog
Member
I'm really hoping this is a joke.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
Why would I be joking?