Crash Station
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Just got back. Pretty awesome for my first conference. And yeah, that woman laughing during Beyond was great. That being said, it's still the most exciting thing to come out of the conference for me.
Sony E3 2012 Conference Thread
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BrokenEchelon
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I find it sad that I need to point this out, but I just hope we're all aware that a consumer of a product is also allowed to be critical and displeased with that product. Apparently negative opinions immediately imply fanboyism.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Dancestar Party was announced a few days back with Sports Champions 2.
The JK Rowling thing will sell, there will be 4 or 5 more books, and it will disappear into the night.
Stuff like that should be on tablets, not the TV.
Who said the magical book wasn't gameplay. IMO It just was the most horrible E3 demo in the history of Playstation conferences.
Many here can pretend, but had that same book demo actually had been a Kinect game demo GAF wouldv'e lost it's mind.
It's like two doctors arguing over whose patient is more dead.
Mama Robotnik
Member
Sony showed games, a tactic I feel elevates their performance above Microsoft.
Microsoft devoted over half of their show to non-game related content, with inexplicable focus on spoiling movies and TV shows, advertising Nike and sports, and orchestrating an irrelevant Usher gig to desperately coat over the fact that they had only a miniscule of game-related content, and almost all of that was a mass of generic FPS footage from already announced games.
Sony wins, but only by default. Their conference was nearly is pitiable as Microsoft's pathetic performance.
ViewtifulJC
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avatars are back! Thank you, based Evilore!
What else does it mean when someone says a game looks "too Japanese" in a pejorative context?
You bring up Japanese xenophobia as though this somehow excuses western xenophobia.
Remember this?
I refuse to believe that this is real.
I REFUSE THE EXISTENCE OF THIS MONSTROSITY
SentientStone
Member
Wasn't there some slip-up on a Vita price drop during the pre-conference, so it was nothing after all?
Usher apparently choreographed some of the moves for the new Dance Central game.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Microsoft had Halo 4 which looked stunning, but that was it. A really poor conference, with none of the memorable embarrassing Kinect moments.
At least Sony had quite a few awesome exclusive games (and a new IP) to show off. I was just expecting...more. Like everyone else, really, Sony's expectations were higher.
Seriously, what the hell happened to the Vita? All of those people that purchased PSN+ this past week? Haha....bet they feel silly now! Can't say I didn't warn them, though.
But the really big surprise is complete lack of an announcement for their streaming gaming service. How the heck did the media get that one wrong?
At least Sony had quite a few awesome exclusive games (and a new IP) to show off. I was just expecting...more. Like everyone else, really, Sony's expectations were higher.
Seriously, what the hell happened to the Vita? All of those people that purchased PSN+ this past week? Haha....bet they feel silly now! Can't say I didn't warn them, though.
But the really big surprise is complete lack of an announcement for their streaming gaming service. How the heck did the media get that one wrong?
Last of Us looked awesome. That's it.
Plus MS didn't waste half their conference on WONDERBOOK. That alone made Sony's worse.
I give Sony a B-.
They showed new IP, new games, and had strong showings with Beyond and Last of Us (not to mention that Assasin's Creed 3 footage). I also thought the new characters and Vita cross-play for Battle Royal were smile worthy.
The downers? Not enough Vita talk and that awful Wonderbook push. Otherwise, I saw a lot of things I'd be purchasing day one.
They showed new IP, new games, and had strong showings with Beyond and Last of Us (not to mention that Assasin's Creed 3 footage). I also thought the new characters and Vita cross-play for Battle Royal were smile worthy.
The downers? Not enough Vita talk and that awful Wonderbook push. Otherwise, I saw a lot of things I'd be purchasing day one.
lowrider007
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Genuine lol, it really has been bad so far, so bad it's started become quite entertaining, I think this gen has lasted so long we're starting to lose it tbh, I know I am, I'm just tired, next gen please.
Razdek did. post #7359
Say what you will about the magical book thing, but I'll applaud bold risks taken in new IPs over recycling any day of the week.
By the way, I don't think we're the target audience for wonder book
DrForester
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Only thing that elevated Sony above MS was the Assassins Creed video. Other than that both companies treated their core games like token showings. They need to realize that their non-game offerings are CES stuff. No one watching these E3 conferences cares about anything but the core games.
Mama Robotnik
Member
At least Wonderbook was related to gaming.
Nike advertisements/Game of Thrones/Prometheus/Sports/More Sports/Bing/Usher were nothing to do with gaming.
Boss Man
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I bring it up because if Sony exhibited any sort of quality like that, it would be more likely directed towards Japanese xenophobia.
And what it means is that Western games and Japanese games are different and it's not nationalistic, xenophobic, racist, or w/e to say that you don't like Japanese games. It may be a little ignorant, but definitely not offensively so.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
This MS/Sony arguing is depressing. It's like two disabled hobos fightin' over moldy bread
Chinpoko_Master
Member
What was she laughing at? I can't remember.
littleworm
Member
I would put them on par with each other for a "core" gaming standpoint. However what's the defining factor is the difference in what Sony and Microsoft needed to do. Microsoft has been the top console in sales for a while, they can afford to coast to the end of this generation, so they didn't need a WOW performance. Sony however needs it, they have been struggling as company as a whole, PS3 sales need to be stronger, and the Vita is nearly anemic, they had more to lose, and so much more to prove and they came up short. So by extension yes Sony did do worse, not necessarily by content, but by expectations.
Microsoft showed more games then sony did even with all that. They hardly spoiled anything in GoT or pro so what the fuck ever.
ToHrU AdAcHi
Neo Member
Watching Sony's presentation was like watching a married couple have passionless sex
Well, the most obvious difference between the WiiU controller and the SmartGlass is how they function. This is purely speculative, but the SmartGlass doesn't interect with the console like the WiiU controller does. The WiiU controller basically streams a video feed from the console to the controller. This can't be done so easily with the SmartGlass, because of the varying screen sizes, ratios and resolutions of phones and tablets and the tech limitations. Because of that, what I think it does is download a small app to the device and run it, which in turn communicates back to the console. The fact that all we saw were simple menu interfaces for movies, Halo and Madden supports this. Something like what we saw with Rayman Legend will not be possible if the technology works this way. Doubt Microsoft intended it to work like the WiiU controller anyway.
Another difference is how they are used. Looking at the Madden example, you need to place down your controller, pick up your tablet, enter your formations and then continue playing with your controller. Doing this with the WiiU touchscreen is a lot easier as you never actually have to place down the controller. It can be used without interrupting play. As I mentioned in another thread yesterday, SmartGlass in Madden is more suited for a multiplayer experience, with one entering the formations and another playing the game.
And as Feep mentioned above, one is standard and the other is not. People expect there to be some sort of utilisation of the WiiU controller's screen. Whether it's to show a different perspective of a game (like those Wii Sports demos from last year), a detailed map view (similiar to the tactical map in Ghost Recon Online) or simply an menu screen with buttons which can be accessed with ease without interrupting game play. These types of interactions between device and console are almost certainly not possible with SmartGlass and the 360 and I don't think it's expected that they are anyway.
If it was capable of everything a WiiU controller could do, I'm certain Microsoft would have placed a much greater emphasis on it. Cool piece of technology, but serves a different purpose and in no way makes the "WiiU controller obsolete".
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Really?
You blatantly accused me of bias with that comment. I listed a few key items that stood out to me for each conference which another poster replied to with a list, to which I then further explained myself. You jumped into the middle of a conversation that I wasn't having with you. And yes, AC exclusive DLC is just as stupid as CoD DLC. Wonderbook and PS Move gimmicks are just as stupid as Kinect, and I dare not even bring up the Wii U controller because if we bring the Nintendo fans into this then I'll be skinned alive. (And because they haven't held their conference yet so I haven't got a firm opinion on it yet.)
I don't see why it matters when the end result is a boring waste of everyone's time. Sony also had Vita to support and massively dropped the ball, which hurts the conference a lot.
They both were dreadful.
And yet MS still demoed off pretty much the same amount of games that Sony did. And I found MS's demos far more interesting. The Halo 4/Splinter Cell/Tomb Raider demos were far more exciting to me than basically anything Sony had outside of Last of Us.
All in all, I don't care though. Both sucked ass.
Wonderbook was better than showing that you can watch some more shows/movies/songs on 360, and at least to me it felt like they spent less time on it.
God of War singleplayer looked spectacular, but I guess that's expected. Beyond was leaked early, but it looked damn good. Beyond and Last of Us both look like super solid, mature (not cheesy) games -- you don't really find that too often.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
And no PSN web store, was really looking forward to that, buying games on my phone and having my Playstation turn on and download them :-(
Boss Man
Member
Eh, purely from a demo standpoint:
The Last of Us >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tomb Raider
Assassin's Creed >>>> Splinter Cell
Halo 4 >> God of War
I agree with your final statement though.
Pretty much agree with you here. I guess I give Sony a slight edge, but when both are so pitiful, that's not exactly a compliment. People are more than free to argue which shitty showing was worst. Even though I might have liked Sony's a bit more overall, I felt like Sony's was the most offensive though, given the lack of Vita. Ubisoft conference was pretty damn solid, and I hope Nintendo leaves us with a strong showing to cap everything off. Today was pretty disappointing.
GrandHarrier
Member
So many Sony megaton!!!!
Haha. Sorry. I kid, I kid. Yeah, it was a relatively weak conference. I'd say they were about equal with Microsoft in content. Some cool stuff, but alot of wasted potential and questionable content focus.
Haha. Sorry. I kid, I kid. Yeah, it was a relatively weak conference. I'd say they were about equal with Microsoft in content. Some cool stuff, but alot of wasted potential and questionable content focus.
Microsoft wasted their time in a myriad of other ways though, that puts them about about even, but I'd say TLOU put Sony over the top.
Did Sony show more games than Microsoft?
Sony
Beyond
PS Battle Royal
GOW Ascension
The Last of Us
PSN Games
Microsoft
Halo 4
GOW Judgement
Forza Horizon
Fable Journey
Dance Central 3
XBLA Games
Was it really that different?
Boss Man
Member
Well, didn't they announce like 12 games being given out for free though? Not that you had to have it beforehand or anything, but still.
Dance Central 3.... was it worth it MS?
I know, but he was making it sound like you had to be on board before the conference, or Tuesday maybe to get whatever was coming, and that whatever was coming would be huge.
weekend_warrior
Banned
The amount of content MS showed outweighs your argument.