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Spider-man 2 is terrible. *Spoilers*

poodaddy

Member
Game's not close to as good as the first one, but it is a looker, I'll say that, and I enjoyed playing through it for the most part, but man the story was awful, truly terrible, I mean reprehensible to the point of nearly ruining my enjoyment of the gameplay. Terrible dialogue, awful characters, injected with tons of woke messaging, the Mary Jane berating Peter part as he just appeals to her constantly, Christ it was so cringey. However, I disagree on the difficulty and enemies. Blasted through on the highest difficulty, thought it was a bit too easy honestly, except the final Venom battle did get me a few times.

Also, hard disagree on the wings, they were sick as fuck in the comics and they still are. Eddie's my Venom though, get this skinny cuck loser outta here.
 

Saber

Member
Theres a children space here in a big shopping near where I live where kids can play PS5 games.
One day I was going for a lunch in the shopping and notice a kid and his friends playing Spider-man 2. The kid was holding a dualsense controller in his hand while talking and playing with his friends, meanwhile the game was there with a bunch of cutscenes and "cool looking parts". They apparently didn't gave a shit about the game.

Honestly I dunno what went wrong, so stick with the first Spider-man. Yes, it has a stupid sequence with MJ but its very minimal. The rest of the game is pure beating bad guys action game. Spider-Man 2 is a 100% propaganda game and should be an offense to even waste license to do retard social justice. That scene of Peter hard apologizing to transformed MJ might be the soyest scene I ever see, it has to be self inserted.
 
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StereoVsn

Gold Member
Yep, writing, characterization and overall story flow took a huge hit in SP2. I am nit going to regurgitate everything mentioned above, but the game was a huge disappointment.

Also, let’s not forget the stupid missions playing as other characters. I feel there is even more vs the first game and I disliked MJ missions there. The whole thing just doesn’t feel well put together. And that’s too bad because traversal and combat were pretty good.

This was so bad that I stopped after a few hours and sold it afterwards. Bought the game used in the first place because of my low expectations which were then “exceeded”.

Spider-Man 2, GoW 2, Horizon 2, all Sony sequels got worse. I know one thing for sure, my expectations for Wolverine are now non existent basically.
 
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Markio128

Member
The game has some mild annoyances, but to say it’s a terrible game is hot-take territory. The meat of the game is super fun, and it’s one that I can put on anytime for a bit of a lark.

Personally, I think it should have been a bit shorter, perhaps by just having MJ’s story told through cutscenes. Whilst I didn’t hate MJ’s levels, I do think they were a bit unnecessary in the grand scheme of things.
 

Neolombax

Member
I'll be honest, I remember feeling quite bummed out after completing it. Nowadays, I can't exactly pinpoint why i felt that way...which makes me feel like re-installing it. It not a terrible game, but the first was better I felt.

Also venom flying is comic book accurate. But I do feel Venom should have been the main and only villain for the game, instead of rushing a reveal late game and regurgitate the symbiotes at the very very end. Would've been nice to see Venom and the world slowly evolving throughout the whole game.
 

Pandawan

Member
The worst thing about SM2's gameplay is how damage-spungy enemies became. It took3-4 hits in OG Spider Man to knock out an enemy. Sometimes even maybe one or two. It felt ok.

In SM2 it feels so stupid, like Spider-Man has to hit some random goon 10 times.
 
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I platinumed Spider Man. Ended up getting Miles Morales when I first got my PS5 and really regretted it and dropped it after 2-3 hours. It just wasn't different enough to warrant the time or money, and the characters and story felt a bit inferior as well. Never could get over Peter's plastic surgery either. I doubt I will ever play 2 from the impressions I've heard about it.
 
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The story is bar far the worst aspect of it. the later half is rushed and feels completely overwhelmed by too many things going on. the symbiote story line is great when done right. but the writers problem was forcing the “planet of the symbiotes” story down our throats.


It’s supposed to be venom’s origin story and we get heal the world. as for Harry as venom? I’m sorry for anyone who loves that idea. I truly am, but it’s just absolutely bad. I don’t see the justification for why he was chosen as the host. I will keep saying it but I think he as venom as a whole doesn’t work.


Venom is more than a sentient being but rather an extension of the host it bonds too. it doesn’t influence its host, its host influences it, causing it to display the darker aspects of the host’s emotions. it’s not evil at least from the get go, something the writers at insomniac failed to do their research on.



Sure you can say Harry has some emotional baggage, but it doesn’t work as potential driving force to make him evil. he’d have far more chances either normal or turning into the goblin then venom. Another thing too, they did it in the first game, they did it in miles morales, and they did it spider man 2. “Oh no! My friend has turned into a villain! let me spend the majority of the story trying to guide them back to the light!” Get The fuck outta here with that crap.
 

yansolo

Member
i thought the first one was great, it was a little repetitive but it had a bit of heart, then for whatever reason they changed the actor for tom holland from lidl which wasnt a real good sign. I saw a mate of mine play huge chunks of the 2nd game, we couldnt help but roll our eyes 90 percent of the time with what was happening. I didnt like what they did with Venom, missed opportunity for such a huge villain. The whole Harry thing mightve sounded cool on paper but why cant we just get a simple Brock vs Peter story line? Maybe have him chasing you around NYC randomly since your spidey sense doesnt detect him, but what do i know im just some guy. Im getting real tired of this whole movie-game era sonys been in the last 10 years or so, I think their wolverine game will be more of the same and i dont have high hopes for it personally.
 

Astray

Member
I think the biggest flaw of the game for me was that Harry as Venom didn't get a lot of time to make a personal impact on the story before the symbiote invasion began.

Some of the symbiotes were a bit annoying to deal with, but you're meant to be a pro at balancing things out in combat by then, the combat system and variety of enemy types in general is one of this game's strong points compared to most Arkham games imo (only Knight compares imo).

Really hope we get Carnage as one of the villains in 3, his sidequest was largely very fun to play through.
 

mdkirby

Gold Member
It had some terrible writing and pacing for the first 2/3 of the game. The last third was pretty good. Much worse than the first game, and I groaned/eye rolled many times playing it. I will 100% be more cautious going into insomniacs next game, def won’t be a day one.
 

Interfectum

Member
Terrible story for an okay-ish open world game.

MJ was, by far, the worst in this. I've never talked back to a game out loud before but the constant scenes of MJ whining about her shitty little career and why Peter doesn't seem to care... I said "because I'm fucking Spiderman bitch, stfu" And then having him play stay at home dad in his fucking garage fully powered up with anti-venom while MJ goes to 'work' doing a fucking podcast.... fucking disgusting game man.

I mean, imagine a scenario where Peter just rescued 5 babies out of a burning building and stopped a super villain for the day only to come home to MJ pissed because she missed her morning podcast recording at the local coffee shop because he was late getting home. I can only think massive cucks wrote this story.
 
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Never knew how people felt about this game but shocked by the responses. I thought from a gameplay perspective it was as good as ever and I enjoyed it more than 1 and MM. Thought story was on par with the other games as well. But I'm as not a marvel person, so that's not as important to me, just love insomniac games. Just find it hard to believe people found the first enjoyable but not the second. Felt like an upgrade to me, even if it was slight. I'm also not big in open world games and get tired of them by the end. This was a game that after I 100%ed and got the plat, I still wanted to play more.

One thing I am pretty shocked to not see mentioned on this thread/site that much was the damn wokeness in this game. As a topic that has been overblown to death on this board, this was one of the few games over the last couple of years where it was insufferable at times for me. That side mission to have a gay dude ask his boyfriend to homecoming, come the fuck on. I'm sure spiderman has time out of his busy schedule to go through all that nonsense. Then you had the black art or whatever the fuck they called it. Extreme pandering that was clearly only put in fill out some check boxes.
 
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Interfectum

Member
Never knew how people felt about this game but shocked by the responses. I thought from a gameplay perspective it was as good as ever and I enjoyed it more than 1 and MM. Thought story was on par with the other games as well. But I'm as not a marvel person, so that's not as important to me, just love insomniac games. Just find it hard to believe people found the first enjoyable but not the second. Felt like an upgrade to me, even if it was slight. I'm also not big in open world games and get tired of them by the end. This was a game that after I 100%ed and got the plat, I still wanted to play more.

One thing I am pretty shocked to not see mentioned on this thread/site that much was the damn wokeness in this game. As a topic that has been overblown to death on this board, this was one of the few games over the last couple of years where it was insufferable at times for me. That side mission to have a gay dude ask his boyfriend to homecoming, come the fuck on. I'm sure spiderman has time out of his busy schedule to go through all that nonsense. Then you had the black art or whatever the fuck they called it. Extreme pandering that was clearly only put in fill out some check boxes.
No doubt... this game was constantly tapping you on the shoulder and daring you to roll your eyes.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Gotta love the part where Mary Jane shields SpiderMan using her own body so he won't get hurt.

I absolutely hated that scene in the game, there's no fucking way a normie would be able to out-sense Peter.


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They literally jumped the shark here, and after the subsequent boss fight and Peter fan-girling over MJ "wow you're so cool"
 

Salz01

Member
I still haven’t finished it. I think I got tired of switching back and forth between Miles and Peter. Plus the black cat throw away mission just annoyed me. The whole game just feels like I’m playing through an entire spreadsheet filled with check boxes.
 

Elginer

Member
loved the first one and finished it twice because of the ps5 upgrade, I haven't finished the second one. says enough about it really
Same I just couldn’t be arsed to finish it. That and shoving things in my face that felt completely out of nowhere like a mission to get a dude laid was like what the fuck is this shit?!!
 

GymWolf

Member
I absolutely hated that scene in the game, there's no fucking way a normie would be able to out-sense Peter.


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They literally jumped the shark here, and after the subsequent boss fight and Peter fan-girling over MJ "wow you're so cool"
She clearly wanted that bbc looking thing all for herself, she was not trying to defend peter.

That was insomniac way to tell you that peter has a small dick energy in this game :lollipop_grinning_sweat: (if it wasn't already clear enough)
 
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Dr_Ifto

Member
I wouldn't say its terrible. I enjoyed it. It was just a disappointment. The side quests really detracted when they should have added to the story. I enjoyed the venom parts immensely. A lot of issues with side content on an open world game, is that they will always seem bolted on. I think Horizon 2 did the best with side quests, but still felt a little bolted on.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Writers self-inserting into their own characters should be considered a crime.
 

Exede

Member
Was it as good as the first? No
Was it still good? Yes

Had my fun with it, some stuff was stupid though, but not stupid enough to dont have my fun with the game.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
The gameplay was fine. That wasn't the problem. The side quests were nothing but cringe. The MJ sections were again just bad, compounded by the fact that MJ could one-shot kill/taze enemies. All Spider-man needed was a good tazer all this time. Who knew?

The biggest problem with the game for me, however, is that they have recycled the same game one time too many. I was fine with Miles Morales, but SM2 just "jumped the shark". I'm pretty much done with Insomniacs SM unless they drastically change stuff up going forward, starting with a new locale.
 
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Was it as good as the first? No
Was it still good? Yes

Had my fun with it, some stuff was stupid though, but not stupid enough to dont have my fun with the game.

Yea I liked it as well but no, not as good as the first game. Some stuff I agree was dumb but not enough to ruin the whole thing. It got a 9 on MC and 8.8 from users. Regardless of what Gaf thinks the game was clearly loved by a ton of people and saying it only got a 9 because of Sony\woke stuff is stupid. Users were right there with reviewers in giving it an 8.8.
 

FoxMcChief

Gold Member
The gameplay was fine. That wasn't the problem. The side quests were nothing but cringe. The MJ sections were again just bad, compounded by the fact that MJ could one-shot kill/taze enemies. All Spider-man needed was a good tazer all this time. Who knew?

The biggest problem with the game for me, however, is that they have recycled the same game one time too many. I was fine with Miles Morales, but SM2 just "jumped the shark". I'm pretty much done with Insomniacs SM unless they drastically change stuff up going forward, starting with a new locale.
Spider-Man 3 to be set in WOKE-anda.
 
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YOU PC BRO?!

Gold Member
Sorry to hear SM2 didn't turn out so well. I'm a huge fan of the character and franchise but decided to ditch after playing the utter cringe fest that was Miles Morales.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
I agree the combat design has problems. Having the hunters with ranged weapons in these tiny pillars and glued to walls when the combat doesn’t really facilitate this type of precision - I don’t understand how they let this through. You end up having to try to keep them off there with the gadgets.

I’m mostly ok with the other stuff knowing it was made by brain dead wokies with an agenda.

Rift Apart was bad and SM2 is a disappointing sequel. Insomniac needs some changes.
 
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GymWolf

Member
I agree the combat design has problems. Having the hunters with ranged weapons in these tiny pillars and glued to walls when the combat doesn’t really facilitate this type of precision - I don’t understand how they let this through. You end up having to try to keep them off there with the gadgets.

I’m mostly ok with the other stuff knowing it was made by brain dead wokies with an agenda.

Rift Apart was bad and SM2 is a disappointing sequel. Insomniac needs some changes.
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kindaGoth

Neo Member
The swinging was vastly improved but still not as satisfying as the PS2 game.

Other than that the game was a disappointment. Terrible writing filled with exposition, stretches of walking and boring gameplay that aren’t worth the crappy story they’re supporting, heavy handed social politics push, poor Spidey outfits.

I am a massive Spidey fan so I can put up with a lot so I am a little surprised I only played the game once and have no desire to return. The first game was such a joy that I played it three times.

Again, the sequel has a lot of technical improvements and some gameplay enhancements but overall the package is weak. I also had high expectations for open-world gameplay that wasn’t met. I expected to battle enemies in mid air and around the city but every battle is pinned down to a rooftop or arena.
 
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YOU PC BRO?!

Gold Member
You didn't liked playing as a character that speak like a castrated alvin the chipmunk?

Right!?

Miles was portrayed as an emasculated, cringe inducing simp. Its honestly pathetic the way he chased after the obnoxious and insufferable Phin (Tinkerer). I've often wondered if the true female power fantasy equivalent is characterised by being a complete bitch and treating everyone around you like shit - all whilst your victims fawn over you, make excuses for your behaviour and tell anyone who will listen just how amazing you are. That's effectively the Tinkerer character in that game.
 
Looking back, I felt Spider-Man 2 was a disappointment. Although I enjoyed some parts of the game (Peter and Harry's friendship; the improved gameplay; and the enhanced traversal of the world), I was not happy with this game's many story and development decisions. Don't even get me started on the decision by either Sony America or Insomniac Games to hire a DEI "consultant" group like Sweet Baby Inc. considering the first game did NOT need a "consultant' group in the first place. One can tell if they played the original game that the writing for Spider-Man 2 was inferior to the original. And whoever thought it was a good idea to - yet again - change an already well-received face model like what they did on Peter in the Remastered version and Miles Morales for MJ Watson deserves to be fired.
 
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Can anyone tell me, from their experience, if it's at least better than the Miles Morales spin-off? I struggled to play to that and just gave up.

Spiderman 2 is coming to PC this month and wouldn't mind playing a game in that world again. If it is better than the Miles stand-alone game at least.

*I don't really care for a deep story in these games, I actually hate the dialogue and quips in most superhero stuff and hate the films. Maybe the odd Batman or Spiderman from years ago, but not the Avergers, etc I really enjoyed the first game*
 
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GymWolf

Member
Can anyone tell me, from their experience, if it's at least better than the Miles Morales spin off? I struggled to play to that and just gave up.

Spiderman 2 is coming to PC this month and wouldn't mind playing a game in that world again, if it is better than the Miles stand alone game at least.
If you didn't liked the dlc because you don't care about miles, leave the sequel alone, there is even more of him unfortunately.
But they made sure to make peter almost as much of an annoying entity.
 
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