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The recent state of play made me realize something concerning about Sony

mitch1971

Member
Arrogant Sony is back and full in effect. A Days gone remaster and a bullshit cgi trailer from Sony studios. They don’t need to rely on first party because they can have all third party showcase games now.

Also now with Microsoft throwing in the towel they are now the default console of choice which means the price of everyone on PlayStation is going up hardware, services and games.
A days gone remaster and a bullshit cgi trailer from Sony studios is not arrogant, it's your average gaming marketing 101.

Sony is just being Sony. Maybe it's Xbox's backing away from the console strategy that has made you notice a divide. A divide being made by Sony's competition not the other way around.
 
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Scrawnton

Member
Sony's arrogance this gen is thinking they could just make their studios throw together GAAS games like it ain't no thing and its print them money. They have had so much critical acclaim and people saying they owned the best studios in the biz. They got arrogant with that narrative, forced those acclaimed studios to build GAAS games, and assumed they'd just make solid gold because their studios are so awarded and highly regarded.

Their arrogance was thinking their developers were infallible and could make any type of game. They didn't realize their studios were only good at making one specific type of thing and didn't have the range or talent to branch out.
 

LimanimaPT

Member
People fail to understand why we are not getting the same first party output that we are used to.
Games don't take 2 years to develop anymore. They take 6+ years and that is a whole console generation.
Development times must be cut down to 3 years tops.
 

JaksGhost

Member
watch arrogant sony keep droppin the ball and microsoft then takes over as #1 publisher on playstation
Which means Sony gets 30% of the Microsoft pie while still being able to push consoles. Microsoft as a publisher clearly isn’t having a negative effect on their business.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Arrogant Sony is back and full in effect.
Cringe Reaction GIF


I don't think its arrogance I think someone sold the higher ups on the huge GAAS payday and so far it has not panned out and now they are trying to correct course.

We have some big boy single player IPs coming and I hope they deliver
Agencylife Bingo GIF by MX Player
 
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ABnormal

Member
Arrogant Sony is back and full in effect. A Days gone remaster and a bullshit cgi trailer from Sony studios. They don’t need to rely on first party because they can have all third party showcase games now.

Also now with Microsoft throwing in the towel they are now the default console of choice which means the price of everyone on PlayStation is going up hardware, services and games.
I would rather call it "clueless Sony". Simply, the people of ps4 era, who almost all had well understanding about games and what gamers want, are no more there, replaced by a bunch of suits who are only able to chase trends deluding themselves that it will bring success. Sooner or later someone will realize, but in the meanwhile the production will suffer.
 
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splattered

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Arrogant Sony is back and full in effect. A Days gone remaster and a bullshit cgi trailer from Sony studios. They don’t need to rely on first party because they can have all third party showcase games now.

Also now with Microsoft throwing in the towel they are now the default console of choice which means the price of everyone on PlayStation is going up hardware, services and games.
You're just now realizing this? This exact thing is what people have been predicting about Sony for quite some time this generation... it's all playing out before our eyes and all we can do is sit here and pay full price to buy the same games 2 or 3 times. Weee.
 

Shaki12345

Member
As long as people are paying, Sony will take advantage of them.

Sony has no respect for their players. Nintendo does and therefore, after this sad and underwhelming gen, I'm done with Sony and will go PC + Nintendo or Steambox / Microsoft Box + Nintendo.

I am done with being disrespected. Microsoft is still in the game and I hope they're cooking something interesting for the living room (PC box). There's NO reason to own PS besides Gran Turismo. All their content is on PC anyway and it ain't even all that special to begin with
 
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Shubh_C63

Member
It's not even any of that. GTA6 will carry them to gen end, as long as it's not delayed they don't need to do anything.
That's the best scenario for them given they fcked up early years with GaaS and now everything is in deep development.

But no matter, PS5 is the only definite place you can get GTA6. That is insane given no PC and Xbox Series X is around 15M (?) only.
 

JaksGhost

Member
As long as people are paying, Sony will take advantage of them.

Sony has no respect for their players. Nintendo does and therefore, after this sad and underwhelming gen, I'm done with Sony and will go PC + Nintendo or Steambox / Microsoft Box + Nintendo.

I am done with being disrespected. Microsoft is still in the game and I hope they're cooking something interesting for the living room (PC box). There's NO reason to own PS besides Gran Turismo. All their content is on PC anyway and it ain't even all that special to begin with
Nintendo doesn't have respect for it's players either. That base is still paying full price for launch titles. Bitching and moaning about Sony doing remasters and remakes while that has largely been what the Switch generation has been comprised of. This is a stupid fucking take especially when all Xbox exclusives are also available on PC day-and-date. Saying your done with Sony, but considering an Xbox...
 
Sony has positioned themselves as the defacto higher end console, and without any real competition from Microsoft they're coasting off third party and dropping periodic first party tentpoles. Their GAAS push mostly falling on its face, save Hell-Divers 2, would have bitten them much harder in the ass if Xbox was actually a viable threat to their market position. Ironically Microsoft may end up being Playstation's biggest third party partner by the end of the gen.
 
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SNG32

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Sony has positioned themselves as the defacto higher end console, and without any real market pressure from Xbox they're coasting off third party and dropping periodic first party tentpoles. Their GAAS push mostly falling on its face, save Hell-Divers 2, would have bitten them much harder in the ass if Xbox was actually a viable threat to their market position.
Microsoft can’t humble them no more and they no longer have to compete with delivering there first party titles no more.
 

justiceiro

Marlboro: Other M
We got a lot of single player games instead of gaas. On top of new ips. This "disappointment" stems from the fact current Console gamers are old farts that are only interested on sequels of games of their youth (read 15 years ago)
 
Microsoft can’t humble them no more and they no longer have to compete with delivering there first party titles no more.
In a matter of speaking yes. As far as higher end consoles go, if you're not happy with Sony then where else do you go? Microsoft has pretty much killed their console business.
 

SNG32

Member
In a matter of speaking yes. As far as higher end consoles go, if you're not happy with Sony then where else do you go? Microsoft has pretty much killed their console business.
They got it now it’s going to be alot harder to call them on they bullshit. People can say PC but it’s still a higher price of entry that I feel the average consumers aren’t will to make to play games specifically and only on pc.
 

Shaki12345

Member
Nintendo doesn't have respect for it's players either. That base is still paying full price for launch titles. Bitching and moaning about Sony doing remasters and remakes while that has largely been what the Switch generation has been comprised of. This is a stupid fucking take especially when all Xbox exclusives are also available on PC day-and-date. Saying your done with Sony, but considering an Xbox...
Nintendo has a LOT of respect for their players because:

- first of all, they actually make games
- they make good games
- they don't have fans constantly complaining about lack of output and quality.
 
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tmlDan

Member
oh stfu, what kind of person thinks like this

Nintendo has a LOT of respect for their players because:

- first of all, they actually make games
- they make good games
- they don't have fans constantly complaining about lack of output and quality.
you mean they only make remasters and rehashes of old franchises, you're correct. The fans are delusional.
 
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Shaki12345

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oh stfu, what kind of person thinks like this


you mean they only make remasters and rehashes of old franchises, you're correct. The fans are delusional.
If you tell me to stfu, it won't help this conversation brother. Be a nice person and be civil. You're capable of that I'm sure.

Take a look at the 70+ million sellers Nintendo did. Now compare that to Microsoft and Sony, and then compare the amount of remasters. When you're done, we can talk.
 
I don't think its arrogance I think someone sold the higher ups on the huge GAAS payday and so far it has not panned out and now they are trying to correct course.

We have some big boy single player IPs coming and I hope they deliver

I think S SneakersSO commented on this a while back and said basically some analyst went to all the companies and pushed them to get into GAAS and how it was the future.
 

sainraja

Member
I don't know if we can describe the current Sony as "Arrogant Sony" because the time people reference when saying that is the start of the PS3 gen and Sony was anything but quiet during that time. If anything, since we like placing labels, we are dealing with "Quiet Sony".

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I get that people want to see new things they are working on but people have in the past heavily criticized them for showing things too early. So if they have things in the works, but not near release, what do you expect? I don't think they will show them, just yet.
 
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tmlDan

Member
If you tell me to stfu, it won't help this conversation brother. Be a nice person and be civil. You're capable of that I'm sure.

Take a look at the 70+ million sellers Nintendo did. Now compare that to Microsoft and Sony, and then compare the amount of remasters. When you're done, we can talk.
I wasn't referring to you when i said stfu, that was meant for the OP, the response to you was below your quote.

Either way, who cares how many units it sold, they still resell it to you all the time and gullible crazies buy it again
 

Mortisfacio

Member
It's been a pretty bad gen for 1st parties.
-Santa Monica's last game was cross-gen
-ND only has accomplished remasters and a trailer
-SM2 was forgettable comic book slop
-Concord was historically bad
-Horizon is an awful franchise and I'm not going to pretend otherwise
-Helldivers 2 was actually pretty fun - I don't play it anymore, but I enjoyed it

Some more 2nd party style releases, like Stellar Blade and Demon's Souls and moneyhatting exclusivity for rehashed remasters like Final Fantasy. It's not been much better for Microsoft, though. Outside of Indy, Halo: Infinite (I stopped playing this due to buggy multiplayer issues, but otherwise enjoyed it), Forza Horizon 5 and Hellblade 2, everything else they've released so far has been forgettable at best.

All my favorite games since 2020 are multiplat and 3rd party games.
 

Idleyes

Gold Member
If you tell me to stfu, it won't help this conversation brother. Be a nice person and be civil. You're capable of that I'm sure.

Take a look at the 70+ million sellers Nintendo did. Now compare that to Microsoft and Sony, and then compare the amount of remasters. When you're done, we can talk.

Sure, Nintendo might do fewer remasters, but let’s be real, they’re not exactly pumping out new IPs either. Their strategy is more about reinventing the same franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokémon, etc.) in different ways rather than creating brand-new ones. So is it really that different?

Don’t get it twisted, I’m not hating on Nintendo. I handed them my wallet years ago, and have yet found a reason to get it back.
 

Shaki12345

Member
I wasn't referring to you when i said stfu, that was meant for the OP, the response to you was below your quote.

Either way, who cares how many units it sold, they still resell it to you all the time and gullible crazies buy it again
I just told you to take a look at the 70+ million sellers Nintendo did. There are e few remasters but way less than the competition. And way more original quality content. Whatever you think of that is besides the point. These are facts.

Nintendo makes games people want to play and that's the end of it. The quality is so damn high that they charge you full price forever and you'll still buy it. Now, I can think of millions of businesses that are jealous as F because of how they work. They have earned the trust and loyalty of their fans and people buy it still and love it. Nobody complains except sad PS fans.

Sony doesn't have that at all. Sony needs to watch their back and deliver some games. Soon. They don't hace the IP's Nintendo has. Sony is in much more danger than it ever was.

Nintendo is free of danger. That's just how it is. Because people and fans respect them.
 
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tmlDan

Member
Sure, Nintendo might do fewer remasters, but let’s be real, they’re not exactly pumping out new IPs either. Their strategy is more about reinventing the same franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokémon, etc.) in different ways rather than creating brand-new ones. So is it really that different?

Don’t get it twisted, I’m not hating on Nintendo. I handed them my wallet years ago, and have yet found a reason to get it back.
This is what i meant, I am not hating either, it's just the hypocrisy when it comes to Sony versus Nintendo arguments.
 

tmlDan

Member
I just told you to take a look at the 70+ million sellers Nintendo did. There are e few remasters but way less than the competition. And way more original quality content. Whatever you think of that is besides the point. These are facts.

Nintendo makes games people want to play and that's the end of it. The quality is so damn high that they charge you full price forever and you'll still buy it. Now, I can think of millions of businesses that are jealous as F because of how they work. They have earned the trust and loyalty of their fans.

Sony doesn't have that at all. Sony needs to watch their back and deliver some games. Soon.
I don't want to play them, not again and again and again, but i don't go around hating on Nintendo for having a remaster-fest direct like all of them last year.

Think about it a little, the hypocrisy of your argument is baseless.
 
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Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
I see we’re all collectively ignoring that every almost single highly rated first party title on the PS4 gen came in it’s back half.

Why would you bring logic to a discussion that runs on emotion? How dare you! Just let us cry!

 
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Gojiira

Member
Arrogant Sony is back and full in effect. A Days gone remaster and a bullshit cgi trailer from Sony studios. They don’t need to rely on first party because they can have all third party showcase games now.

Also now with Microsoft throwing in the towel they are now the default console of choice which means the price of everyone on PlayStation is going up hardware, services and games.
Yawn…Its February. Theres a fucking stacked Feb through to August. Theres PLENTY of time to announce more and they no doubt will. Why oversaturate the year especially when the biggest game of the year, GTA6 (if it comes this year), is 100% going to cannibalise the sales of everything else…
 

Zacfoldor

Member
oh stfu, what kind of person thinks like this


you mean they only make remasters and rehashes of old franchises, you're correct. The fans are delusional.
Brother, there is no need to diss Nintendo to defend Sony.

Instead we should team up and both diss Microsoft and PC.

First off, franchises can't get too old, can they Indiana Jones, Metal Gear Solid, and Chronicles of Riddick? IPs are evergreen.

Remasters we can talk about, did you know PC gamers don't buy remasters? They told me that they don't buy the same game twice. On Sony and Nintendo consoles we do. We buy many remakes and remasters because these things are good.

The PC fanboys are the ones missing out due to them sticking to their cheapo depot principles. On console we have fun and play what is fun even if it is an awesome remaster of a great game like Resident Evil 4. We do not need discord to enjoy gaming, in fact we hate it. We prefer no verbal communication because we are men. Men don't prattle and gossip, we are here to get shit done after work. We are not getting scammed. We are playing the games we want to play. We don't do lobby games(if you see them being played that is just probably our lesser armswomen playing while we are at work or war). We told them to make these for us and we love them. So what is there to diss. It's the "stop having fun" meme played out in real time. Sony and Nintendo know what is going on. Fuck the haters.
 
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Shaki12345

Member
Sure, Nintendo might do fewer remasters, but let’s be real, they’re not exactly pumping out new IPs either. Their strategy is more about reinventing the same franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokémon, etc.) in different ways rather than creating brand-new ones. So is it really that different?

Don’t get it twisted, I’m not hating on Nintendo. I handed them my wallet years ago, and have yet found a reason to get it back.
Yeah, it's different because it's not the same game. Reinventing the game is what they do and they succeed. You do know they exist for more than 120 years for a reason?

Nintendo reinvents. The competition keeps making the same drivel and are losing business and money and employees. They are stupid. Nintendo is smart.
 
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JaksGhost

Member
If you tell me to stfu, it won't help this conversation brother. Be a nice person and be civil. You're capable of that I'm sure.

Take a look at the 70+ million sellers Nintendo did. Now compare that to Microsoft and Sony, and then compare the amount of remasters. When you're done, we can talk.
2024-25 Switch Remasters/Remakes:
Another Code: Recollection (REMAKE)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong (REMAKE)
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (REMAKE)
Luigi's Mansion 2 HD (REMAKE)
Donkey Kong Country Returns (REMASTER)

Microsoft and Sony games are of a totally different scope since they're not being left out of a majority of third party releases. The AA market is covered by the developers in the industry. That's where Switch excels because their games are nowhere near the scope of the larger AAAs barring 3 or 4 titles.
 
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Shaki12345

Member
I don't want to play them, not again and again and again, but i don't go around hating on Nintendo for having a remaster-fest direct like all of them last year.

Think about it a little, the hypocrisy of your argument is baseless.
Dude. Nintendo has way less remasters than Sony. This discussion is a waste of time.
 

Bojji

Member
More like "don't give a fuck" Sony.

No competition, console is selling well and loyal faboys are always ready to defend their every (anti consumer) move. Why should they even try at this point?
 
I just want to know if that Housemarqe game is a regular SP campaign or another rogue-like. If it’s a regular campaign it might be my fav game this gen.
 

tmlDan

Member
Dude. Nintendo has way less remasters than Sony. This discussion is a waste of time.
no they dont, go back to the directs and pay attention, they're all remakes

I also mentioned rehashes, they re-release HD versions ALL the time and make remasters

They have new games, but rarely ever release anything actually new, never new IP's
 
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Shaki12345

Member
2024-25 Switch Releases:
Another Code: Recollection (REMAKE)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong (REMAKE)
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (REMAKE)
Luigi's Mansion 2 HD (REMAKE)
Donkey Kong Country Returns (REMASTER)

Microsoft and Sony games are of a totally different scope since they're not being left out of a majority of third party releases. The AA market is covered by the developers in the industry. That's where Switch excels because their games are nowhere near the scope of the larger AAAs barring 3 or 4 titles.
The Switch excels because it is a product that people didn't thought they needed in their life. Blue ocean etc. Also, it has games people REALLY want to play. Nintendo is so fucking smart. They have 70 million sellers that don't cost shit to make and they sell them at full price forever.

Go teach that at business school. People are to dumb to try and figure out why that works.
 

Shaki12345

Member
no they dont, go back to the directs and pay attention, they're all remakes

I also mentioned rehashes, they re-release HD versions ALL the time and make remasters

They have new games, but rarely ever release anything actually new, never new IP's
They are all remakes? My God. Maybe YOU should watch the Directs pal.
 

SNG32

Member
Brother, there is no need to diss Nintendo to defend Sony.

Instead we should team up and both diss Microsoft and PC.

First off, franchises can't get too old, can they Indiana Jones, Metal Gear Solid, and Chronicles of Riddick? IPs are evergreen.

Remasters we can talk about, did you know PC gamers don't buy remasters? They told me that they don't buy the same game twice. On Sony and Nintendo consoles we do. We buy many remakes and remasters because these things are good.

The PC fanboys are the ones missing out due to them sticking to their cheapo depot principles. On console we have fun and play what is fun even if it is an awesome remaster of a great game like Resident Evil 4. We do not need discord to enjoy gaming, in fact we hate it. We prefer no verbal communication because we are men. Men don't prattle and gossip, we are here to get shit done. We are not getting scammed. We are playing the games we want to play. We told them to make these for us and we love them. So what is there to diss. It's the "stop having fun" meme played out in real time. Sony and Nintendo know what is going on. Fuck the haters.
How are PC players missing out when they can play everything under the sun. 99 percent of the games on state of play will be on PC.
 
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It was a waste of time because we already knew most of the games. I already preorderd some of them, why would I bother to watch those again. It's the opposite of exciting.

I didn't know Saros was coming, or that it was what it looks to be. And the only reason I knew it existed in any form was due to assuming Housemarque had another game in development, which anyone could guess because that's what studios usually do.

Personally I have no issue with revealed games getting additional showings. The era of PS4 reveals some people claim they want to come back, did that a lot. It was a build-up, so every time a game got shown off they'd show new details.

I don't have an issue with a CG reveal trailer from studios with proven track records, just make sure the next trailer has some actual gameplay in it. Then next time, some more involved gameplay showing off other parts of the game. If you want companies to only show you stuff for new reveals then you're probably going to get one show per year, if that. I don't think that's realistic nor healthy considering there are lots of bad faith actors and fake insiders who like to spread BS rumors and info to drive toxic discourse around games.

It's funny because usually i'm on the hating side (at least more often). But this time i agree, i felt like i was trapped in a different dimension. People were less hysterical for the terrible Playstation Showcase where they announced their 10 GaaS.

Now i understand the people that come to defend a show that i thought was terrible beyond any doubt and that probably feel misunderstood.

New IP, midbudget games, concrete release date, gameplay, the show had all of that. It's not going to change the whole generation ofc but what the fuck were people expecting ?

Seriously asking that myself. What were they wanting, and was it at all realistic? It's the first SOP of the year, it's only February, and we've got 10 more months in the year. I was already prepared for the likely slowdown from internal 1P due to the GAAS mismanagement, so considering that I think getting new reveals from studios like Housemarque is more than good.

I'm not expecting 2-3 beefy AAA SIE reveals at the first SOP of the year because even if there wasn't the situation with GAAS, that wouldn't have been realistic anyway.

There was 1 (one) game here that isn’t day 1 on PC. Lost Soul Aside and Stellar Blade are both published by Sony on Steam. What exactly are you celebrating?

Lost Souls Aside and Stellar Blade are from the Hero Project, which wasn't purely focused on PS exclusives but rather getting smaller, up & coming devs with potential to get their games out there. That guaranteed PS versions but in some of those markets like Korea and China, PC gaming is massive and it wasn't realistic to completely cut those platforms off. That's why PC versions exist.

Also those aren't internal 1P studios; my thing about SIE & PC has always been more about internal 1P titles getting PC ports, especially non-GAAS titles. Guess what wasn't mentioned at the SOP or even the recent fiscal call? 1P PC ports. SIE publishing Stellar Blade on PC is more because Shift Up probably can't handle publishing for that type of title while working on other things, or it might've been part of the arrangement between them & SIE. Shift Up retaining IP ownership in exchange for SIE publishing the game on PS & PC.

So no those aren't "gatchas" like you want to think they are.

I just want to understand what i bought the pro for.

The games are now pushed for release to 2026 and beyond.

You are lucky if you get ghost of yotei this year.

Intergalactic is 2026
Last of us part 3 probably ps6 release ar this point.


Its very easy to unload on sony right now.
The pro is a waste. Pssr is trash. Third parties barely make use of the extra power.

You had astrobot but you already had it packed with the ps5 release so though great game it was more or less just an huge dlc.

But i admit psvr2 is saving my pro for now.
And i do advise everyone to get one.
Resi 4 is just a must play.

I would have given this show a 1000 out of 10 would they have showed astros rescue mission for psvr2

You know there was ZERO chance of a new Astro game for PSVR2 so how can you hold that against them? SIE 100% dropped the ball with PSVR2, I've been said that, but that also means I'm not expecting anymore serious 1P push with the thing, either. Maybe they add a VR bonus mode for Astro Bot in the future, but otherwise they've been doing good with content updates for the game, and it's too soon for a VR-focused content update if one ever happens.

The other stuff you're complaining about....well at the end of the day it was your choice to buy a PS5 Pro. The thing only came out late last year. So you decided to buy a Pro at a time when SIE had no big 1P AAA games, the closest new one they had was Astro Bot, and were already aware of their potential pipeline issues with some 1P due to the GAAS stuff which was already in the process of being cancelled? You just saw Concord get unalived in the span of six weeks prior to PS5 Pro...and you bought one anyway?

If knowing a release date for Intergalatic or Ghost of Yotei was so important, why didn't you want until those games got release dates confirmed before buying a Pro? If you felt Astro Bot was just DLC (absolutely wild to try claiming that, but do you), why'd you get a Pro? If you already knew TLOU3 was further out (ND have suggested that themselves way earlier), why not wait to get a Pro until it was closer to release?

You've said nothing about 3P games so I can't assume that's a major reason you bought the Pro, but if it was, then you must somehow have all the very specific small selection of 3P games that aren't well-optimized for the Pro, to call it or PSSR trash. Because there are way, way more games that make good use of the hardware. If it were as bad as you claim, there'd be significantly more outrage and systems being returned.

Almost like many people are not happy with their first party output as of late

It’s not all a massive conspiracy though some just want to shit on the other brands they dont like.

Right, but what exactly are they even mad about anymore? They can't say no 1P's been released; last year had Helldivers 2 and Astro Bot. They can't say no new AAA 1P hasn't been revealed; we got Intergalatic and Saros reveals in the span of a couple months. They can't claim SIE are still rushing stupidly into GAAS; they've cancelled a lot of them and seem to be retooling what ones remain so they don't have another Concord.

Yeah, I was more than irritated that they had Bend & Bluepoint working on GAAS and have probably screwed those studios over for getting new 1P games out this gen...but I already got my frustrations on that out of my system around the time news broke out. I'm not holding that against Intergalatic or Saros, or Astro Bot or Helldivers 2. I'm not gonna let that make me think the first SOP in the 2nd month of the year has to be balls-to-the-wall "SHOW ME EVERYTHING" amazing. They can bring the real heat at a summer Showcase.

There are some outright saying this is the worst SOP ever and the worst show SIE's ever had...did they not watch the 2023 Showcase? Also it's a bit crazy to me some of the people saying this is the worst SOP, were probably hyping up the SOP where PHYSINT got revealed, where that had no gameplay or even CG shown and overall, I'd say was a weaker SOP than the one we just had (still a quite good one tho).
 

Shaki12345

Member
read the rest, you can ignore it but its fine - even mario kart is not a new game and you're referring to 70 million sellers
MK isn't but it doesn't need to be. Nintendo released 2 big original 3D Zelda games people wanted to play. Broke all sales records. And that's only 2 Zelda games.

There is nothing negative you can say about how Nintendo makes it's money. People gladly give them their money because they get something in return that they'll love. Nintendo makes games with love. There's magic there. People forget about life and the shitty world when playing Nintendo.

Nintendo is future proof. Sony isn't and Xbox isn't. They could be, but they're too stupid to take action.
 
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