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[Kacho]

it could end democracy.

 

[JayK47]

LOL. There is no pleasing you people. Piss and moan either way.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Btw, just learned these tariffs exemptions dont include the previous 20% tariffs. Also, according to a reporter, white house officials said he'll order a section 232 study on semicondutors and will put specific tariffs on chips and other specific materials. So dont breath out of relief just yet.

 

[BlackTron]

It didn't turn into a joke until I called him out.

We shouldn't be normalizing and acting like extending term limits is OK in general conversation.

It's a sign we're headed in the wrong direction. Very wrong.

 

[Kacho]

It didn't turn into a joke until I called him out.

We shouldn't be normalizing and acting like extending term limits is OK in general conversation.

It's a sign we're headed in the wrong direction. Very wrong.

Yes, the world is ending. Our video game toys are in jeopardy. Etc etc. Get some self awareness, step away from the cliff and stop being so one note. Hope that helps.

 

[BlackTron]

Whats it like waking up being a spaz? Not being a dick just curious

TLDR:

I don't want to descend into fascism. Hey look, they're telling you they're doing it. On video. With a microphone. Over and over.

"Dude go outside touch grass don't be a spaz"

 

[BlackTron]

Yes, the world is ending. Our video game toys are in jeopardy. Etc etc. Get some self awareness, step away from the cliff and stop being so one note. Hope that helps.

So you didn't read my posts.

I believe the geopolitical consequences are far graver than video games.

Months ago I joked over prioritizing kicking out woke over the future of the free world. Not an impressive value system.

 

[__SteakDeck__]

Oh hi. I see you are pretty far gone. Good talk.

"Far Gone" As in I Said something that you disagree with. Lol Why can't ya'll on the left engage in conversation these days.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

TLDR:

I don't want to descend into fascism. Hey look, they're telling you they're doing it. On video. With a microphone. Over and over.

"Dude go outside touch grass don't be a spaz"

Haha you are every msnbc/CNN freak combined. Ok man it's over, time to just lay down and die.. That's what you're fishing for. That's litrelly what all you left weirdos want is to sit back and bitch and moan about everything.

When do you just enjoy life? Oh right wait can't, life's the worst

 

[Kacho]

I believe the geopolitical consequences are far graver than video games.

DM me if you want to have a Twitter conversation about our impending doom. NeoGAF isn't the place.

 

[Guilty_AI]

It didn't turn into a joke until I called him out.

We shouldn't be normalizing and acting like extending term limits is OK in general conversation.

It's a sign we're headed in the wrong direction. Very wrong.

If you want some "relief", running for a third term would be the biggest shot in the foot for Trump. After all, the democrats would just have to put him against 100 charisma Obama then.

 

[BlackTron]

Haha you are every msnbc/CNN freak combined. Ok man it's over, time to just lay down and die.. That's what you're fishing for. That's litrelly what all you left weirdos want is to sit back and bitch and moan about everything.

When do you just enjoy life? Oh right wait can't, life's the worst

Again, my judgements on Trump come from Trump himself. From his mouth. You can assign all the strawmen you like.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Again, my judgements on Trump come from Trump himself. From his mouth. You can assign all the strawmen you like.

Get a life dawg

 

[adamsapple]

Don't get my thread closed cause of the political discussion y'all.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

It's funny seeing Liberals now strongly against Tariffs. Go back 15 to even 30 years ago. You will hear Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and even Bernie Sanders of all people. Saying that we needed to enact tougher tariff policies on China. It was Republicans that used to be against them and wanted free trade. Democrats were saying how we were losing jobs to China and our middle class was being destroyed. It sounded very similar to what Trump is saying. But, because he's now saying it. Liberals are like against it. Lol

Tarrifs are needed for certain cases. Stupidity is not. Trump is a dumbass

 

[Kacho]

Don't get my thread closed cause of the political discussion y'all.

I've been drinking, please forgive me, Adam-sama

 

[violence]

I don't know what Tim Cook is talking about. Anything can be accomplished with enough DEI hires.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Does anybody really need a 6080?

Well this can extend to a $4K 6070 or a $3K 6060 or whatever level of GPU you deem necessary. Go ask all the PCMR people that probably watch their frame counter more then they play the game.

I think most Americans like to pretend that we want American made products but when it comes down to it they will go right back to Chinese/Vietnamese/whatever as soon as they see the sticker shock. That or they will continue championing American made product while buying otherwise behind closed doors.

Nvidia already fucks everyone balls deep as it is. You don't want a Nvidia GPU made in the USA just like you don't want a iPhone manufactured here.

 

[BlackTron]

Get a life dawg

Thread out of danger apple! Nothing left to respond to! I mean, I'm not gonna comeback the same insult twice, come on.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Don't get my thread closed cause of the political discussion y'all.

You posted a thread that is essentially political anyways so it's impossible to avoid.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Aaaaaaaand........... fold

Keep going stable genius

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Thread out of danger apple! Nothing left to respond to! I mean, I'm not gonna comeback the same insult twice, come on.

No Its just time to do something productive but by all means pat yourself on the back I'm sure you could use it

 

[BlackTron]

You posted a thread that is essentially political anyways so it's impossible to avoid.

Yeah I mean this thread will never really be out of danger lol.

 

[Kacho]

You posted a thread that is essentially political anyways so it's impossible to avoid.

Adam right now

 

[acm2000]

At this point China should just cease all exports to the us for shits and giggles

 

[LazyParrot]

Trump is an eminently reasonable man, just a little chat over dinner and he'll change his mind on just about anything. Oh, and a million dollars.

Trump reportedly suspends Nvidia H20 export ban plan after $1 million dinner with Jensen Huang

What about the whole AI diffusion rule?

www.tomshardware.com

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Thread out of danger apple! Nothing left to respond to! I mean, I'm not gonna comeback the same insult twice, come on.

Yeah it's like whatever that dudes name was that was $4K in credit card debt and wanted to buy a PC like 5 times in the past year and expected the thread to not devolve into PCMR vs Console shit flinging after he posts that he returned it because PC gaming is shit.

 

[BlackTron]

Trump is an eminently reasonable man, just a little chat over dinner and he'll change his mind on just about anything. Oh, and a million dollars.

Trump reportedly suspends Nvidia H20 export ban plan after $1 million dinner with Jensen Huang

What about the whole AI diffusion rule?

www.tomshardware.com

GO AMERICA ANOTHER WIN FOR US

 

[Guilty_AI]

Trump is an eminently reasonable man, just a little chat over dinner and he'll change his mind on just about anything. Oh, and a million dollars.

Trump reportedly suspends Nvidia H20 export ban plan after $1 million dinner with Jensen Huang

What about the whole AI diffusion rule?

www.tomshardware.com

"During the tête-à-tête Huang vowed to invest in domestic AI infrastructure, reports NPR."
"Shortly afterward, the company reportedly promised to pour more money into U.S.-based AI data centers, a move that helped ease concerns from the administration."

So he literally got what he wanted then.

 

[BlackTron]

At this point China should just cease all exports to the us for shits and giggles

I may pretend to care more about the world than games but I would appreciate if they could release Switch 2 first. Ya know...just a thought

 

[Kacho]

GO AMERICA ANOTHER WIN FOR US

 

[LazyParrot]

So he literally got what he wanted then.

I don't think the point of the ban was to get Nvidia to invest more money into domestic AI. They would have done that either way lol.

 

[BlackTron]

"During the tête-à-tête Huang vowed to invest in domestic AI infrastructure, reports NPR."
"Shortly afterward, the company reportedly promised to pour more money into U.S.-based AI data centers, a move that helped ease concerns from the administration."

So he literally got what he wanted then.

Getting what you want by cornering and applying leverage is a mafia way of business.

You all know the story. The one who beats their chest and makes everyone hate him loves the control and thinks he's infallible. Eventually enough people have had enough bullying and band together.

Thinking it's a good idea to behave this way while you perceive to be invincible is a classic trope. This mindset is trickling down from the top to common Americans.

It's cognitive dissonance that we would read the same themes differently here than the 1000 other times we have seen it.

 

[StereoVsn]

And Biden's wasn't?

Less so but there is a reason Harris was not elected. But even with that the cabinet had infinitely more and better experience. Unfortunately all of that was clouded over by DEI idiocy and bullshit around incessant environmental reviews.

Unfortunately Trump's cabinet is worse as hard as that is to believe.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I don't think the point of the ban was to get Nvidia to invest more money into domestic AI. They would have done that either way lol.

This has been Trump's business strategy for decades and he literally wrote a book about it.

Getting what you want by cornering and applying leverage is a mafia way of business.

You all know the story. The one who beats their chest and makes everyone hate him loves the control and thinks he's infallible. Eventually enough people have had enough bullying and band together.

Thinking it's a good idea to behave this way while you perceive to be invincible is a classic trope. This mindset is trickling down from the top to common Americans.

It's cognitive dissonance that we would read the same themes differently here than the 1000 other times we have seen it.

Congratulations, you're describing China.

 

[poppabk]

What's the point of not including consoles? This entire thing is so random and dumb.

The US doesn't sell any consoles so no fear of reciprocal tariffs.

 

[BlackTron]

Congratulations, you're describing China.

Not saying that I'm not

Unfortunately it also describes America.

Something tells me that if Trump sits down with Xi, it's not going to be about making China follow more trade rules and operate more lawfully.

They can keep doing all the same shit with no pressure whatsoever as long as Trump gets whatever he really wanted through coercion.

 

[Forsete]

Art of the deal.

5D chess master.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Not saying that I'm not

Unfortunately it also describes America.

Something tells me that if Trump sits down with Xi, it's not going to be about making China follow more trade rules and operate more lawfully.

They can keep doing all the same shit with no pressure whatsoever as long as Trump gets whatever he really wanted through coercion.

There are shittons of business and countries unsatisfied with China not following WTO rules, Trump has every interest in making them start walking in the line.

Oh, speaking of, this just came out. What now? Are you gonna accuse the UK of using their power to "bully" China too?

 

[LazyParrot]

This has been Trump's business strategy for decades and he literally wrote a book about it.

He didn't write that book and the government isn't a business.

 

[BlackTron]

There are shittons of business and countries unsatisfied with China not following WTO rules, Trump has every interest in making them start walking in the line.

Oh, speaking of, this just came out. What now? Are you gonna accuse the UK of using their power to "bully" China too?

What are you talking about? These plants were about to be shut down, Trump's tariffs being the final nail in the coffin. They met to pass an emergency bill to buy it and save the plants from closing. All the workers are relieved.

Read articles next time.

 

[Guilty_AI]

He didn't write that book and the government isn't a business.

Wrote, co-wrote it, semantics. And some would argue the government is very much a business... or a mafia if it's asked from an anarcho-capitalist.

What are you talking about? These plants were about to be shut down, Trump's tariffs being the final nail in the coffin. They met to pass an emergency bill to buy it and save the plants from closing. All the workers are relieved.

Read articles next time.

They literally took the plant from Jingye by force, going as far as blocking executives from entering it. Read beyond the article next time.

 

[stickkidsam]

Well this can extend to a $4K 6070 or a $3K 6060 or whatever level of GPU you deem necessary. Go ask all the PCMR people that probably watch their frame counter more then they play the game.

I think most Americans like to pretend that we want American made products but when it comes down to it they will go right back to Chinese/Vietnamese/whatever as soon as they see the sticker shock. That or they will continue championing American made product while buying otherwise behind closed doors.

Nvidia already fucks everyone balls deep as it is. You don't want a Nvidia GPU made in the USA just like you don't want a iPhone manufactured here.

On the real, fuck their bitching and their frame rates.

I feel like the people obsessed with getting the latest tech are part of the problem. I've had an iPhone 12 for the past 4 years. I've gamed on PCs with 10 year old graphics cards. Over the past 20 or so years I've watched people become more and more obsessed with upgrades, upgrades, upgrades while simultaneously expecting it all to be cheap. Hell, I've been a part of that. There's a price to all of that though and everybody is happy to pawn it off.

We're selling labor to other countries and at times with ethically questionable practices. We're spoiled rotten with advanced tech that is incredibly cheap. And for what? So people can play a new game that they forget about 5 minutes later or get the latest phone that does exactly the same thing the old one did. Nobody is ever satisfied with it.

We all walk around with secret agent level tech in our pockets and act like we'll die if it's not ALSO hot off the presses. Maybe we need to slow down. Maybe if we do we can appreciate what we have more and hell, eventually we might get to a point where all these luxuries are more affordable again. I'm not saying NOTHING should be affordable, but we need to ask ourselves why we expect all the latest and greatest to be cheap.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Donald doesn't have all the cards?!

 

[Kacho]

Donald doesn't have all the cards?!

 

[LazyParrot]

Wrote, co-wrote it, semantics. And some would argue the government is very much a business... or a mafia if it's asked from an anarcho-capitalist.

Some would argue the earth is flat, too.

And if you're talking about The Art of the Deal, both the actual author and the publisher have stated that Trump wasn't involved in the writing process at all, so even saying he co-wrote it would be a massive stretch.

 

[//DEVIL//]

if no Tariffs on GPUs. why the fk Asus increased the prices of their cards multiple times and same for MSI ??

pure greed and scalping from AIBs

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Art of the deal.

5D chess master.

That's a good joke...

The US is currently very dependent on China...

China is making deals with many countries...

Including Japan.

What is true is that the US is in a very severe crisis.

 

[SportsFan581]

if no Tariffs on GPUs. why the fk Asus increased the prices of their cards multiple times and same for MSI ??

pure greed and scalping from AIBs

It might be some time before we know that for sure, though I wouldn't be surprised. LOL

You've got to figure manufacturers barely know which way is up at this point, bound to be some confusion for them the same as consumers.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

At this point China should just cease all exports to the us for shits and giggles

They don't want to see the obvious, but China and Japan are very technologically advanced.

And the orange one, when he opens his mouth, only manages to sink the country further and ruin itself.